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T13
257 Posts |
Posted - 04/26/2012 : 10:13:14
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Stop whining and either go play or stay home.. |
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MLBDolie
42 Posts |
Posted - 04/26/2012 : 10:52:14
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quote: Originally posted by T13
Stop whining and either go play or stay home..
T13, we get it. Why don't you voice your same opinion a few more times? |
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kammansmom
36 Posts |
Posted - 04/27/2012 : 10:23:36
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It is now official..Dizzy Dean released announcement yesterday that it will start on the 5th and end on the Sunday, July 8th. How many teams are still going? |
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TODDS
153 Posts |
Posted - 04/27/2012 : 14:27:27
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The lack of responses is telling. |
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kammansmom
36 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2012 : 15:07:49
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TODDS...Hope you guys are well. Looks like we get to see you at Hunter Park this year! I am still hoping the Valdosta things chnages...LOL
But not looking like it |
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MLBDolie
42 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2012 : 15:12:33
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Any updates on possibly moving the 8U tourney? Or if it stays in Valdosta, have any teams committed to make the trek down south? |
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BryanSell
62 Posts |
Posted - 05/01/2012 : 09:05:52
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I was told at our park's All-Star coaches meeting that there will be a formal announcement coming from Dizzy Dean stating that the 8U tournament will remain in Valdosta and will run from Thursday July 5th through Sunday July 8th.
We will not be going.
Bryan Sharon Springs 8U Blue All-Stars |
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TODDS
153 Posts |
Posted - 05/01/2012 : 13:39:01
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That is exactly what I have heard as well. We too will not be going. |
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spliter
121 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2012 : 08:45:22
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Sorry you guys are going through what is obvious a strain on 8 yr old families. We played several yrs. in DD. DD has its place but time comes to make a change if your kid has the passion for higher competition. If I were you I would start now and reg. with USSSA to enter their State Championships. They are several to choose. You have coach pitch, kid pitch, and machine pitch in metro ATL. You can look at Triple Crown, Southern Baseball, Nations,and Diamond. There are good WS being played in Chattanooga and Panama City. They wont milk you for gate fees. You should play two games a day and get it over. |
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1337ball
28 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2012 : 06:25:30
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quote: Originally posted by MLBDolie
quote: Originally posted by T13
Stop whining and either go play or stay home..
T13, we get it. Why don't you voice your same opinion a few more times?
I wonder what the Valdosta team would've done 2 years ago when the 6U State Tourney was in Chickamuaga and the WS in Chatanooga? |
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mallard
9 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2012 : 13:16:39
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If I remember correctly, last year a 12u team from Valdosta went to Atlanta for a week to qualify and then went to MS to win it all.
Stop complaining about the travel. If you don't want to come to Valdosta, then don't come. Plain and simple.
Maybe they should think about alternating the tournament every year. Right now though, Valdosta outbid everyone else so it looks like it'll be in Valdosta this year. Next year, be the highest bidder and you can have it at your place. |
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C. MORTON
1051 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2012 : 14:31:33
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quote: Originally posted by 1337ball
quote: Originally posted by MLBDolie
quote: Originally posted by T13
Stop whining and either go play or stay home..
T13, we get it. Why don't you voice your same opinion a few more times?
I wonder what the Valdosta team would've done 2 years ago when the 6U State Tourney was in Chickamuaga and the WS in Chatanooga?
One team compared to many. And as far as I can remember there was never a Valdosta team at state or the DD world series when we were 6 or 7 and we were at both. I could see most of the teams were down there or it was 50/50 as far as teams location. But it's more like 99% of the teams are up around Atlanta or above. |
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MAPSTRE
33 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2012 : 15:57:25
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Last year, Valdosta got an exemption to play in state and the world series. This is their first full year in Dizzy Dean. |
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T13
257 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2012 : 01:26:20
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Mallard I agree w you 100%...atlanta people need to quit complaining and stay at home with their local tourney and local umpires. Tired of having to deal with spoiled Atlanta parents, come south and play in our backyard once in awhile! |
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C. MORTON
1051 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2012 : 21:14:47
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quote: Originally posted by T13
Mallard I agree w you 100%...atlanta people need to quit complaining and stay at home with their local tourney and local umpires. Tired of having to deal with spoiled Atlanta parents, come south and play in our backyard once in awhile!
It's not just Atlanta people that this affects. There are teams on the Tennessee state line that have to go there also. There are 10 different parks in this district alone. How many parks are in valdosta? I will say that just cause Valdosta got the bid doesn't mean teams have to go there. There will be plenty of baseball played around here with plenty of teams not going to state. There will be some that do go and they will probably be the ones that win it. Atlanta is one of the biggest places to play baseball in the south east, so why would they want to drive down there and play when most of the better teams are in each others back yards. |
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C. MORTON
1051 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2012 : 21:25:49
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Also if you really want to see whAt teams travel check out Triple Crowns site and just look at the past tournaments. Seems like the Atlanta teams travel down there more that the teams travel up here. Not very many teams down there to begin with. Now if Valdosta got the DD World Series then that would be a different story. Maybe that's what they need to shoot for!!!! |
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CoachDad
52 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2012 : 01:50:15
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It says a lot about Dizzy Dean baseball that teams even contemplate not going to a state tourney if they qualify, doesn't it? |
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C. MORTON
1051 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2012 : 14:52:43
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quote: Originally posted by CoachDad
It says a lot about Dizzy Dean baseball that teams even contemplate not going to a state tourney if they qualify, doesn't it?
Most look forward to playing state cause at 8 the WS is in MISSISSIPPI and most don't make the trip. I know last years state runner up didn't go. So state was going to be there world series. This year I guess they will play district and find some other world series.
Not to add fuel to the fire but everyone is playing the World Series in Mississippi. That is a first. South Haven must be shelling out some big bucks to get all age groups there this year. I see more and more teams finding other places to play. |
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steviejayw
13 Posts |
Posted - 06/25/2012 : 12:42:39
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quote: Originally posted by T13
Disagree about allstars and travel....only people in the city complain about the travel....like I said offer your spots to other kids!
Wrong on both counts. Not even going to comment on your first point. You can't just switch out players in the middle of the All-Star season. In order to play with a team, you must be on their roster prior to the district tournament.
With that being said...Dizzy Dean has a lot of things wrong with it. They need to plug the holes in their ship because it is sinking and they don't even realize it yet. |
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gtown71
86 Posts |
Posted - 06/25/2012 : 15:07:14
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it's not just dizzy dean that has issues. i have one that plays travel and i coach my youngest in dixie youth peewee allstars. it's amazing how rules can change to just make a team eligible. when you have teams from all over the state it's next to impossible to think that everyone is playing by the same rules and on the up & up.quote: Originally posted by steviejayw
quote: Originally posted by T13
Disagree about allstars and travel....only people in the city complain about the travel....like I said offer your spots to other kids!
Wrong on both counts. Not even going to comment on your first point. You can't just switch out players in the middle of the All-Star season. In order to play with a team, you must be on their roster prior to the district tournament.
With that being said...Dizzy Dean has a lot of things wrong with it. They need to plug the holes in their ship because it is sinking and they don't even realize it yet.
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AllStar
762 Posts |
Posted - 06/25/2012 : 16:26:07
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quote: Originally posted by steviejayw
quote: Originally posted by T13
Disagree about allstars and travel....only people in the city complain about the travel....like I said offer your spots to other kids!
Wrong on both counts. Not even going to comment on your first point. You can't just switch out players in the middle of the All-Star season. In order to play with a team, you must be on their roster prior to the district tournament.
With that being said...Dizzy Dean has a lot of things wrong with it. They need to plug the holes in their ship because it is sinking and they don't even realize it yet.
I've been hearing that since my son was 10, but it sounds like it's still floating judging by this thread.
We only did it one year, but enjoyed it for what it was. He likes travel better, but we still talk about that season with fond memories. We had to go to Rossville. Not exactly Valdosta, but not exactly a trip to Wills Park either. :D
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SOGAS
143 Posts |
Posted - 06/25/2012 : 22:20:57
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Valdosta's 10 year olds won the dizzy dean world series last year. Their 8 year olds will probably run the table at state this year. I think it's funny how you guys cry about a little travel. You fellows are getting to use to everything being centered around metro. As for those 61 parks up North, Valdosta's 10 y/o had to play in one of those parks last year and it was a dump compared what you will see in Valdosta. I think you should take T13's advice and give your sons spot to another kid and their family who would love the experience. It's obvious that it's not for you! |
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greenmonsta
16 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2012 : 08:52:37
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The strength of Valdosta’s teams or the conditions of their parks is not relevant to the discussion. Once the roster is set you cannot “give up your spot” even if you wanted to. So should a family play all-star ball at all if they know about these trips in advance and cannot afford them? I would say absolutely. Playing summer ball is how the good get better. Most all star teams that I am familiar with play in 6 or 7 tournaments. Should a young player be denied the opportunity to participate most of the summer in those first 5 tournaments because his family just can’t swing the final two?
I despise it when money gets in the way of a child being able to play ball. Most rec parks will get a kid on a team even if he cannot afford it, but when you start talking about 2 weeks of vacation and 2 weeks in a hotel that is beyond the typical ability of the park (and other families) to support. What Dizzy Dean has done is made money more of an issue than it has ever been for the majority of its participants. Shame on them. I think it’s great that the southern teams have made the journey north in years past and I don’t take lightly the financial issues they have faced. The goal however in my opinion for rec ball should be to get as many kids playing as possible. The Sates in Valdosta does not serve that goal.
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T13
257 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2012 : 11:42:02
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Play rec ball during the season....everyone knows all-stars means you are gonna travel if you are lucky enough to advance and that is everyones goal....please stop whining...Valdosta has awesome parks and your kid will have memories he'll never forget... |
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greenmonsta
16 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2012 : 12:55:49
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You did not directly answer my question (Should a young player be denied the opportunity to participate most of the summer in those first 5 tournaments because his family just can’t swing the final two?) but they way I read your response it seems to be implied. You don’t have to be “lucky enough to advance” to go to the World Series. You don’t even have to win a single game. You just have to meet the eligibility requirements. I am familiar with multiple teams from multiple parks that do not go to the World Series due to the time and expense involved. This is stated when the team is formed. They never have any intention of traveling. If you have been in DD for any length of time I would think you would know of some of these teams as well. My point is Travel is not every team’s goal and some teams simply won’t do it.
Nothing is going to change the fact that this year’s States are in Valdosta nor should it at this point. DD made a deal and they should honor it. My hope is that DD will listen to all the feedback they get (what you call whining) including yours and act accordingly for future tournaments. FWIW my family went to the States and WS the last 2 years. Awesome experiences, as you said lifetime memories. I have some close friends going to Valdosta this year. I’m disappointed that I will not be able to watch them compete. I sincerely hope that those going to Valdosta this year have an awesome time.
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