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LLH
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 Posted - 02/23/2011 : 09:22:36
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I had someone tell me that college baseball is not much different than travel has become. He said if you want to drive and pay you will find a team. Here was the breakdown compared to travel. Div 1=major, Div 2=AAA,
Div 3=AA, JUCO= A. If you wanted to play bad enough in college do you think you can find a school and make a team not looking for a scholarship? |
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Spartan4
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Posted - 02/23/2011 : 18:22:36
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Originally posted by LLH
I had someone tell me that college baseball is not much different than travel has become. He said if you want to drive and pay you will find a team. Here was the breakdown compared to travel. Div 1=major, Div 2=AAA,
Div 3=AA, JUCO= A. If you wanted to play bad enough in college do you think you can find a school and make a team not looking for a scholarship?
I don't completely agree with the JUCO=A level.....Many kids who were drafted or think they will get drafted choose the JUCO schools for the simple reason they are able to get drafted after 1 year, as opposed to 3. |
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bballman
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Posted - 02/23/2011 : 19:34:06
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Originally posted by LLH
I had someone tell me that college baseball is not much different than travel has become. He said if you want to drive and pay you will find a team. Here was the breakdown compared to travel. Div 1=major, Div 2=AAA,
Div 3=AA, JUCO= A. If you wanted to play bad enough in college do you think you can find a school and make a team not looking for a scholarship?
What I would disagree with here is JUCO = A. Many JUCO programs are more like major. Many, many players go to JUCO's who are good enough to play DI, but don't have the grades. They play JUCO, then transfer to the DI. Many other players go JUCO so they are immediately eligible for the draft. If you go to a 4 year school, you're not eligible till after your Jr year. So, JUCO's are not really a bad option to play competitive ball. They - at least no all - are not equivalent to playing A travel ball. |
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Season
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Posted - 02/24/2011 : 13:05:31
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One perception of HS "politics" may stem from earlier days of REC Travel Ball "politics and daddyball" ...Booster Board members who previously held both travel ball coaching positions and association board positions who esentially used their power and control to self appoint themselves travel coaches and ensure their kid makes a team and/or to select buddies and in some cases with borderline coaches son's who all may have their own agendas with too much control - thus politics/daddyball. Perception is reintroduced in HS when the same folks - former youth board members becoming booster board members to potentially increase their sons chances of making a HS team if he's a borline player....could make the difference in those final few spots and selections of making the team (doesnt guarentee playing time however since the coach wants to win). This environment is common whenever you hear the term in younger travel ball "we are the HS feeder team".
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AllStar
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Posted - 02/24/2011 : 14:32:26
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Originally posted by Season
One perception of HS "politics" may stem from earlier days of REC Travel Ball "politics and daddyball" ...Booster Board members who previously held both travel ball coaching positions and association board positions who esentially used their power and control to self appoint themselves travel coaches and ensure their kid makes a team and/or to select buddies and in some cases with borderline coaches son's who all may have their own agendas with too much control - thus politics/daddyball. Perception is reintroduced in HS when the same folks - former youth board members becoming booster board members to potentially increase their sons chances of making a HS team if he's a borline player....could make the difference in those final few spots and selections of making the team (doesnt guarentee playing time however since the coach wants to win). This environment is common whenever you hear the term in younger travel ball "we are the HS feeder team".
I have never said a word to my son's high school coach except, "Nice to meet you, I'm x's dad. Good luck this season." After the team was selected.
Just from the outside looking in, I don't see that there was much politics going on. I almost could have told you who was going to make the team and who wasn't from Day 1 just from knowing 95% of the players. I'd be a little surprised if there was any funny business going on, big donation or other methods of sucking up, but I'm too old to be shocked.
At this point my son is on his own after I coached him for several seasons. He seems to be pretty well prepared. If I had been just trying to grease the skids for him, a) it wouldn't have worked anyway and b) it wouldn't have helped him prepare to achieve the goal he just achieved.
As much as I loved it, I'm relieved to not be coaching anymore. He and I still spend a ton of time at the park together, only now he gets my undivided attention.
Time to sit back and enjoy the ride. And be grateful that I'm not in one of the districts being written about in this thread.
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bmoser
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Posted - 02/24/2011 : 20:06:54
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| Season, I agree with your post, and its what I've been seeing in our County, but its not carrying in to who plays innings at the Varsity level. Successful mature coaches have more leverage to draw the line, and they wont hesitate to do so. Younger unproven Coaches tend to cave a bit more. I hope our current Coach sticks around for a long time. |
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G-Man
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 00:42:23
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WOW.... nice post!!!!!
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Originally posted by Season
One perception of HS "politics" may stem from earlier days of REC Travel Ball "politics and daddyball" ...Booster Board members who previously held both travel ball coaching positions and association board positions who esentially used their power and control to self appoint themselves travel coaches and ensure their kid makes a team and/or to select buddies and in some cases with borderline coaches son's who all may have their own agendas with too much control - thus politics/daddyball. Perception is reintroduced in HS when the same folks - former youth board members becoming booster board members to potentially increase their sons chances of making a HS team if he's a borline player....could make the difference in those final few spots and selections of making the team (doesnt guarentee playing time however since the coach wants to win). This environment is common whenever you hear the term in younger travel ball "we are the HS feeder team".
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AllStar
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 09:41:50
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Originally posted by Season
One perception of HS "politics" may stem from earlier days of REC Travel Ball "politics and daddyball" ...Booster Board members who previously held both travel ball coaching positions and association board positions who esentially used their power and control to self appoint themselves travel coaches and ensure their kid makes a team and/or to select buddies and in some cases with borderline coaches son's who all may have their own agendas with too much control - thus politics/daddyball. Perception is reintroduced in HS when the same folks - former youth board members becoming booster board members to potentially increase their sons chances of making a HS team if he's a borline player....could make the difference in those final few spots and selections of making the team (doesnt guarentee playing time however since the coach wants to win). This environment is common whenever you hear the term in younger travel ball "we are the HS feeder team".
I was never on our park's board, but I do know that if a board member wanted an All Star or travel team, he had to leave the room while they discussed and voted on him. I also know that not every board member got the All Star teams or Travel Teams for which they applied. Often when they didn't they resigned and moved on which tells you a little about their motivation.
That said, there is no law preventing the people complaining about the politics and who never joined the board from picking a position and going for it. Same with the Booster Club. |
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sthrneagle
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 11:20:50
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| How is the Booster Club chosen at your high school? Does the Head Coach pick it? |
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High School baseball politics ??
