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bballman

1432 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2009 :  15:19:50  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by teddy41

Dont hold me to it but a couple of the kids on the phillies team said they were sponsored thus no player fee's.

That is why they changed their name to the phillies, the sponsor is a philly fan..plus if you look back at some old threads regarding the coaches getting paid the coach puts it out there that a sponsor is taking care of that as well..nothing hidden on the team

"this is response on another page"
Posted - 08/13/2009 : 18:08:07
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The bill is being paid by the team's sponsor, not the parents.




I would be very careful about this. This could be construed as an NCAA violation and could impact a kids amatuer status. This was talked about on another web site where kids whose expenses were paid to attend a tournament were violating NCAA rules and if discovered, were not eligible to play college ball.

If a sponsor were to pay for the whole team, that is not a problem, but to pay for one kid - that could be an issue.
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Alter-Ego

802 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2009 :  17:14:55  Show Profile
jag,
If YOUR fees are going to fund someone else's costs, then I agree. If a coach has worked out an alternate source to cover the cost, then that is a little different story. Some families have hardships that they cannot avoid and need help. The last thing a kid needs is to be embarassed by his family's financial situation. There is no way to let the other families know without making it public knowledge.

If money becomes the deciding point whether someone plays or not, is that any different than what everyone complains about regarding HS booster clubs and families funding their kid's way on the team.
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AllStar

762 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2009 :  22:27:05  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Alter-Ego

jag,
If YOUR fees are going to fund someone else's costs, then I agree. If a coach has worked out an alternate source to cover the cost, then that is a little different story. Some families have hardships that they cannot avoid and need help. The last thing a kid needs is to be embarassed by his family's financial situation. There is no way to let the other families know without making it public knowledge.

If money becomes the deciding point whether someone plays or not, is that any different than what everyone complains about regarding HS booster clubs and families funding their kid's way on the team.



A 12, 13, 14 year-old has a lot of different options, whereas there is only one high school team, so the comparison doesn't really stand up. I know that if we couldn't afford it, our sons wouldn't be playing travel ball.
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mikewells

45 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2009 :  10:26:22  Show Profile
Dan you nailed it motivate the players ignore the parents issues theyr not on the field trying to play this great but difficult game.

The Titans team comments about comings and goings motivated me to find a team site on that site the roster for last year players is what seems to be posted so is there even a Titans team for 2010 ?

quote:
Originally posted by coachdan06


quote:
Originally posted by crackedbats

Sounds like there are a couple of teams with ridiculously large rosters for a 14u team. Phillies with 17-18 and if rumors are correct the Titans took back the 4 who left with the previous coach. Does this give them 20 (16 who are listed on the USSSA "current" roster and those 4)?

How can you keep that many kids/parents happy? What does that say to the 16 kids/parents who stayed on the Titans only to have 4 come crawling back?



for a preface I do not have relatives or involvement in the 14 year old age group but I enjoy and follow the activity of your chats

so now I can say that bats makes a strong point: what kind of desperation does it suggest to the remaining (loyal) players if the departing families are coming back in : because it even could be the team coach asking them all back not the families "crawling back" .

then you have to ask "whats wrong about playing the 14 who stayed" ?

far as keeping parents happy thats not important theyre not on the field they need to stay out of it or leave most problems are caused by selfish parents.

do keep the kids as best motivated possible though , they ARE on the field.

my best to all


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Alter-Ego

802 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2009 :  13:15:58  Show Profile
The only place I have seen the Titans roster is on the USSSA site.
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bomber

9 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2009 :  16:14:55  Show Profile
Is everyone that the Titans had still on the team?
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mammabee

95 Posts

Posted - 12/30/2009 :  10:07:09  Show Profile
hello all , its on good sources , Titans they still are looking for players
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crackedbats

160 Posts

Posted - 12/30/2009 :  11:18:54  Show Profile
who knows who is on the Titans team. The USSSA current roster says 16. And that doesnt include 4 that supposedly left and then came back. I hear they also picked up one from the Braves. So that would be 21. If they are looking....then are some of the existing players on the chopping block?

Just speculation/gossip. If this is the case that looks like a fiasco. Just think if it was your son cut. One thing to do it in October/November. Entirely another if it were to happen in Jan/Feb.
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Alter-Ego

802 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2010 :  06:54:17  Show Profile
I guess we will see soon. The tournament season is just around the corner for teams that a lot 8th graders. I don't how many the Titan's have in that group.

I did see a bunch of them at a Titans workout yesterday afternoon. I would expect the ones that were coming to these workouts know where they stand and I think Chance is a good enough guy to not treat his players right. He can only start with what he picked up from the previous coach.
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TMB

80 Posts

Posted - 01/10/2010 :  20:36:44  Show Profile
Is ALL the shuffling done? It's almost time to strap on the cleats
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BBmaniac

24 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2010 :  08:55:19  Show Profile
Things from 14U on are different. 20+ kids on a team sounds insane. Believe me, I use to think so as well. Problem is that from 14U on, high school ball.....and more importantly....high school coaches start interfering. HC coaches are telling 8th graders taht if they want to play high school ball they gotta play June ball with the school "feeder" team. 9th graders are many times told that they will be dismissed from their HS team if they are caught playing with their summer team.....I have seen several teams with 20+ players not know from game to game which 12 players might show up.
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utilityplayer

15 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2010 :  13:20:53  Show Profile
I wonder if it is just me (computer caching problem) or has the 14U ECB Titans not updated their webpage roster. It seems to still have the 2009 roster, which is different than the USSSA roster.

Speaking of the USSSA roster for the 14U ECB Titans, which one is the most likely to be accurate? The "This is not the offical roster" with 24 players, or the "current roster" with 16 players?

Just curious.
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Alter-Ego

802 Posts

Posted - 01/24/2010 :  17:27:29  Show Profile
current roster has only the players that have not been released.
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AllStar

762 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2010 :  10:37:03  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Alter-Ego

current roster has only the players that have not been released.



That implies additional cuts. Are the players and parents aware those are coming?
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Alter-Ego

802 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2010 :  14:32:15  Show Profile
No implications meant in my statement. I was just simply stating that the "Current Roster" for any team on USSSA does not have the players on it that have been released. There are only 16 players on the current roster, while there are 24 players on the "ALL" Roster. That means 8 players were released from the USSSA roster.


Edited by - Alter-Ego on 01/25/2010 22:29:16
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AllStar

762 Posts

Posted - 01/26/2010 :  08:41:54  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Alter-Ego

No implications meant in my statement. I was just simply stating that the "Current Roster" for any team on USSSA does not have the players on it that have been released. There are only 16 players on the current roster, while there are 24 players on the "ALL" Roster. That means 8 players were released from the USSSA roster.





Gotcha. Thanks, I misunderstood. 16 is not an out of control number for 14U. I would hate to have to do the lineup, but presumably the coaches, players and dads know what they are getting into.
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crackedbats

160 Posts

Posted - 01/26/2010 :  12:20:42  Show Profile
so they list 16 current players. Rumor mill says the picked back up 4 of the released players and another from the EC Braves. So, the question is how many players do they really have? Again...this is just rumors. Obv only the coaches truly know whats up.
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Alter-Ego

802 Posts

Posted - 01/26/2010 :  14:56:38  Show Profile
I think people will see that this age tends to experience injuries and other issues that keep from having every player there all the time. It does not even have to be baseball related.

Edited by - Alter-Ego on 01/26/2010 15:23:41
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AllStar

762 Posts

Posted - 01/26/2010 :  16:24:07  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Alter-Ego

It does not even have to be baseball related.



You mean there is something else?
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whits23

596 Posts

Posted - 01/27/2010 :  08:01:17  Show Profile
16 would not be too many if time limits actually allowed 7 inning games. I love the fact that the good news is you have 7 inning games, but guess what the time limit still only allows for 5-6 innings.
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Alter-Ego

802 Posts

Posted - 01/27/2010 :  09:28:03  Show Profile
I know Allstar. Why would these boys be doing anything other than baseball. What are they thinking.


Edited by - Alter-Ego on 01/27/2010 09:31:03
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Alter-Ego

802 Posts

Posted - 01/27/2010 :  09:42:15  Show Profile
With the new pitching rules, Whit, teams may not want to play all 7.
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whits23

596 Posts

Posted - 01/27/2010 :  14:18:10  Show Profile
can you laminate your pitching scenario you posted for me to carry in my pocket at tournaments. I think i like the 3-3-2 if i can get about 3 pitchers in that role
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Alter-Ego

802 Posts

Posted - 01/27/2010 :  14:47:39  Show Profile
come on whit, I did the hard work for you, mapping it out. You are supposed to provide the laminator.
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goyard

217 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2010 :  16:43:05  Show Profile
I am now officially ready for some Baseball!
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