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bmoser
1633 Posts |
 Posted - 11/06/2009 : 09:13:31
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USSSA re-classifications are due out soon. These changes will impact the Forsyth Slugfest which will not be an "Open" class event in '10.
Teams I see being pushed up from AAA to Majors:
Midway Dirty Dawgs
Chain Dirt Dawgs
Sharon Springs Silver (now Black)
GA Select (Red)
Teams I see being pushed up from AA to AAA:
GA Force
GA Redbirds
Bobcats
GA Scorchers
Fayette Dirt Bags
Southside A's
NG Bulldogs Black
Southern Sluggers
Effingham Bandits
GA Titans
Teams I see being pushed down from AAA to AA:
Rockdale Rhino's
OP Sharks
NG Bulldogs Red
ES Venom
Collins Hill
Dacula
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10 BB
264 Posts |
Posted - 11/06/2009 : 13:29:27
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| This is what I mean about Papa being the USSSA Director and BMoser the Assistante Director for the State of Georgia. PaPa has the brawn and Moser has the brain. What a great team they would be for your state |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2009 : 09:17:56
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| 10bb: I tried to find a dictionary up here in the nursing home to look up that word brawn. If they let kingofthehill back on this site I will ask him what that means. I hope it is something good. |
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3sondad
220 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2009 : 21:19:52
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Originally posted by baseballpapa
10bb: I tried to find a dictionary up here in the nursing home to look up that word brawn.
I think it has something to do with being "the quicker picker upper."  |
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ecplayball
6 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2009 : 15:43:35
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bmoser, ES Venom are now Venom Baseball and playing out of ATPP. Venom is no longer affiliated with East Side.
With three new players, 2 from EC and 1 from an 11u team last year, Venom Baseball will not be listing as a AA.
East Side does have a new travel team - East Side Broncos. They will probably list as a AA. |
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bmoser
1633 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2009 : 09:09:09
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ecplayball: Thanks for the Venom update. I'll try to re-wire my brain to avoid saying that other word that used to come before Venom.
If you have 3 new players, then you must have 6 or more returning players. That makes you a returning team, and not a newly formed team irregardless of the teams name, or Coaches. You do not get to choose a returning teams classification. I know usssa pushes down 9U teams to 10AA and 10U AAA based upon in-class w-l, win % and power ratings. I don't know if they could/world push down a 10U AAA to 11UAA based upon the same data. 9U teams with better metrics than the 10U Venom's were pushed down from 9U to 10U AA (I know because my sons team was 1 of them).
If there are any usssa officials out there know if older age groups can be pushed down like they do in 9U transitioning to 10U please fill us all in. It wasn't done last year, but that may have been due to balance class sizes more evenly.
The larger number of 11UAA teams in relation to the number of 11u AAA teams works in your favor since usssa tries to have an equal number. A lot of teams avoid the AAA classification, and I cant figure out why. I can see not wanting to be Majors due to the limited # of Major and Open tourneys, but I cant see why so many strong AA's avoid AAA. I guess they are sandbagging trying to win States. You can read the re-class rules here, and scroll down to see last years:
http://www.gausssabaseball.com/index.cfm?TPID=137
I hope you wind up where you want to be.
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Originally posted by ecplayball
bmoser, ES Venom are now Venom Baseball and playing out of ATPP. Venom is no longer affiliated with East Side.
With three new players, 2 from EC and 1 from an 11u team last year, Venom Baseball will not be listing as a AA.
East Side does have a new travel team - East Side Broncos. They will probably list as a AA.
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Titan1
210 Posts |
Posted - 11/15/2009 : 00:01:19
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| OP Sharks and Venom Baseball stay at AAA but I think the rest is accurate. |
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bmoser
1633 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2009 : 10:27:15
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Titan1:
Do you know if teams can be pushed down in class by usssa?
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Originally posted by Titan1
OP Sharks and Venom Baseball stay at AAA but I think the rest is accurate.
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gausssa
209 Posts |
Posted - 11/30/2009 : 09:40:08
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Yes, teams can be reclassed down if they are not being able to compete where they are.
Guys, the setting of classifications every year is the toughest thing the State Office has to deal with. It's the best system in youth baseball IMO but with the sandbagging that goes on every year it's also a system that can be taken advantage of. That's why I'm always watching the Monday scores and updates and the reason we sometime move teams before May 1st. We have some ideas of the way we may do the classifications this year but aren't sure yet.
Question for anyone? In your opinion, how many "true" major teams do you think is in every age group? With the rest of the "listed major" teams being "good" AAA teams??? |
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bmoser
1633 Posts |
Posted - 11/30/2009 : 13:26:17
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GAUSSSA,
In this age group, I'd look at the 10U final power rankings. The top 15 had .500 records or better, then it fell off enough beyond #15 to make that the cut off. 4 of these 15 no longer form a roster, so 11 remain.
If you are not going to consider Fall or anything else that has transpired since August 1st, then we have 11.
IMHO, 8-10 Major teams have emerged since that time. So we have 19-21 if you care to include this group.
We had 153 10U teams who played at least 1 USSSA game, we have somewhere between 11 and 21 depending upon how you want to look at it.
At 11, we'd have only 7.2%, at 21 13.7%. I'd go for the higher number and include the newbies (if they register to play USSSA) to increase Major tourney's chance of making. To encourage all 21 to join in, I'd commit to more Major tourneys than we had last year. I think 2 Major tourneys/month for March (Slugfest & SNIT), April, May,& June (sub states& States), so 4 of the 8 are already in place. Just need 4 more. I'd also have at least 4 Open tourneys too they could play in. |
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BBall123
395 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2009 : 08:34:33
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What or who would those teams be in your opinion ?quote:
Originally posted by bmoser
GAUSSSA,
In this age group, I'd look at the 10U final power rankings. The top 15 had .500 records or better, then it fell off enough beyond #15 to make that the cut off. 4 of these 15 no longer form a roster, so 11 remain.
If you are not going to consider Fall or anything else that has transpired since August 1st, then we have 11.
IMHO, 8-10 Major teams have emerged since that time. So we have 19-21 if you care to include this group.
We had 153 10U teams who played at least 1 USSSA game, we have somewhere between 11 and 21 depending upon how you want to look at it.
At 11, we'd have only 7.2%, at 21 13.7%. I'd go for the higher number and include the newbies (if they register to play USSSA) to increase Major tourney's chance of making. To encourage all 21 to join in, I'd commit to more Major tourneys than we had last year. I think 2 Major tourneys/month for March (Slugfest & SNIT), April, May,& June (sub states& States), so 4 of the 8 are already in place. Just need 4 more. I'd also have at least 4 Open tourneys too they could play in.
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bmoser
1633 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2009 : 10:18:57
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BBall123
Team GA, EC Titans, Jackets Gold, Cartersville Rookies, Chain Dirt Dawgs, Georgia Force, Midway Dirty Dawgs, Colt 45's (if they indeed have 8 of 10 ex-Scorpions).
These 8 come to mind. I'll keep the others under my hat for now.
Who else would you add?
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Rocky
290 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2009 : 11:13:43
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| What does Papa have on the North GA Cougars this upcoming season? I liked what I saw out of this group of coaches and kids last year? |
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11baseball11
90 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2009 : 12:53:01
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Moser, you made some too easy.Bandits,643 Jags&Cougars, Sandtown(if together still), Homeplate,Holly Springs,and Select red.That gets us to 15 so you should be able to wear a smaller HAT now. Who am I over looking?
Rocky, I also liked what I saw out of the N.GA.Cougars last year but towards the end of the season they had lost some key players and it showed. Does anyone know if they were able to rebuild? |
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Rocky
290 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2009 : 13:26:59
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| Who did they lose players too? |
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ecbbraves
113 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2009 : 14:04:17
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| We were a 9u team last season but got to play the N. GA Cougars twice in 10u events prior to the summer. If they've improved at all then they should be considered in the "major" discussion. They even went toe-to-toe vs. the Bandits in a 1 run game back in May which not many teams can say. |
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bmoser
1633 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2009 : 15:57:04
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11baseball11:
You misunderstood the question. BBall123 was asking which new teams would I suggest adding to the Major ranks in addition to the top 15 10u Major teams from last years power rankings.
USSSA doesn't look at teams that formed after the 2009 Spring season. I was just offering my opinion on which of these newly formed teams should be classified as Major.
Which newly formed teams who are NOT listed in USSSA's 2009 GA 10U Major top 15 power rankings would you add? |
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11baseball11
90 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2009 : 16:05:03
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| Rocky, I'm not an insider but I know they went from a team that was pretty stacked to a team that struggled within the last few weeks. In one of the tournaments that the 9u Braves are talking about in Dalton I think, they gave us all we wanted and then some. Two weeks later some players had left(don't know why)and we beat them pretty good and I know the strong lefty was looking at options. Hated to see that happen because that coach got alot out of that team. |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2009 : 20:05:41
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Papa don't predict but Papa does give credit where credit is due and the N. Ga. Cougars should be a force to be reckoned with if they have kept their same kids together. Papa knows something that not many of you know and that is that several of the Cougars were Bandits in their younger days and most of them have a true baseball pedigree under their belts.
They are a really good team that I expect to do well. I would like to see them play a few more elite tournaments as this is what I feel will really get them better faster. |
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11baseball11
90 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2009 : 21:49:46
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| My bad Moser,but that still leaves about 5 teams to make your 19-21 majors. I know I'm pullin a brain fart on 1 or 2 so who else do you have under your hat? Didn't your mama tell you it wasn't nice to keep secrets.LOL |
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Rocky
290 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2009 : 07:16:41
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| I thought I recognized a few names from Bandits of baseball past. Wasn't hard to pick out them out. I hope we see this team together again this season. |
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BBall123
395 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2009 : 08:13:58
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? I dont have any idea. Thats why I was asking the master ;-)quote:
Originally posted by baseballpapa
Papa don't predict but Papa does give credit where credit is due and the N. Ga. Cougars should be a force to be reckoned with if they have kept their same kids together. Papa knows something that not many of you know and that is that several of the Cougars were Bandits in their younger days and most of them have a true baseball pedigree under their belts.
They are a really good team that I expect to do well. I would like to see them play a few more elite tournaments as this is what I feel will really get them better faster.
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bmoser
1633 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2009 : 12:41:30
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I don't have any teams "under my hat". I typically wear visors!
The teams I'm not adding to my Major class list have all been discussed on this web site at some point this year. I'm just waiting until the recruiting season to end.
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Originally posted by 11baseball11
My bad Moser,but that still leaves about 5 teams to make your 19-21 majors. I know I'm pullin a brain fart on 1 or 2 so who else do you have under your hat? Didn't your mama tell you it wasn't nice to keep secrets.LOL
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TAZ980002
831 Posts |
Posted - 12/15/2009 : 09:02:09
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| Are the reclassifications due out today ?? |
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bmoser
1633 Posts |
Posted - 12/15/2009 : 09:27:05
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Yep. Unless USSSA has a computer glitch.
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Originally posted by Bandit13
Are the reclassifications due out today ??
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Rocky
290 Posts |
Posted - 12/15/2009 : 13:55:29
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| Some have been posted |
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