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mlbscout
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 Posted - 03/15/2011 : 17:20:38
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BanditHawk
Which team pulled out at the last moment? I reviewed the schedule and it looks like the ECB Titans have the toughest draw in pool play. Team Florida and Bandits, the two favorite teams have a much easier pool play schedule. I hope the weather cooperates and that some of you guys on this forum keeps us up to date. Any chance that some of the games will be webcast?
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Originally posted by Bandit_Hawk
Looks like a team has pulled out of the 12u Super NIT as of last night. How will USSSA handle this situation now that pools have already been set up and pool games scheduled?
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G-Man
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Posted - 03/15/2011 : 17:22:32
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After looking at the brackets. Based on what I see, it looks like the #1 seed out of pool C will have the easier route to the championship. The # 2 seed out of pool C will face the # 1 seed out of pool A which should be the Bandits. This will leave Sandtown and Team Florida with some very interesting decisions pertaining to pitching in pool play. Both teams should go 3-0 in pool but pitching decisions will determine runs allowed as to who will get # 1 seed out of that pool.
So my prediction is Sandtown vs Bandits for championship. |
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dirtdawgs
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Posted - 03/15/2011 : 23:46:03
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| Dirtdawgs just hope we don't come back to Savannah with our tails between our legs. First tournament in the major division and none of our little guys have hit any growth spurts. Does anyone know anything about the roadrunner alabama team? Also watch out for the Phillies. This team is new this year and they are flat out loaded and huge. Actually love our match ups will tell us very quickly if we have what it takes to play in this division. Wanting lots of close games and hopeing it comes down to a little small ball in the big boy division. |
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TAZ980002
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Posted - 03/16/2011 : 06:02:22
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Originally posted by mlbscout
BanditHawk
Which team pulled out at the last moment? I reviewed the schedule and it looks like the ECB Titans have the toughest draw in pool play. Team Florida and Bandits, the two favorite teams have a much easier pool play schedule. I hope the weather cooperates and that some of you guys on this forum keeps us up to date. Any chance that some of the games will be webcast?
Mill Creek had to withdraw due to injuries. They were down to 7 healthy players. The Titans do have a tough pool draw for sure. Truth is, no team has an easy draw - this is a Super NIT after all. |
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Dirtbags
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Posted - 03/16/2011 : 07:54:33
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The Dirtbags decided against the Atlanta Super NIT because of school issues and also because we have qualified for the Elite 32. We feel we are playing the teams that will prepare us for the Elite 32. Since the fall began we are 16-0 against 12 Major teams and 5-1 against 13aaa and also played a 14aa and have not played any 12aa teams. Like the Bandits and the Pride, whoever we play, we know we will probably see their best pitchers. We will play a couple of 13 Major tournaments and a couple more 13aaa before the Elite 32 and trust me, the pitching that we see there is just as good as the best 12 Majors. We are going to the Nations Invite in Tn where a lot of the top teams in the country are suppose to be coming and we still have the Charlotte Super NIT. Based on our Power points, I believe we are playing a decent schedule and would have traveled enough to see some outstanding teams and pitching. Because of gas prices, I think most teams are limited on how far they can travel and have to be selective on which tournaments they pick. The bad thing about playing the 13's is that we get NO power points on beating 13's that are better than some 12maj. I think we will be ready when it is time to make that 11 hour drive to Disney. We do regret not playing the Atanta SNIT, but will be watching it closely to see who comes out on top. My money is on the Bandits and Canes, but there are several teams in there that can win it if they can save pitching and get a good draw in Bracket play. Good luck to everyone, should be a great weekend for baseball.
Tim Bailey
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therealist
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Posted - 03/16/2011 : 09:11:03
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Issuing forfeits would not only influence the pools, but would have a greater influence on the later bracket play due to the fact all these teams would be able to save pitching. Could these teams play some teams twice within a pool? |
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mlbscout
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Posted - 03/16/2011 : 11:27:42
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The price of gasoline has markedly increased in every state! I beg to disagree, but playing against 13u AA and AAA teams does not equal competing versus nationally ranked 12u Major teams. The pitching speed from mound distances at 54 or 60 feet from 13u pitchers is a lot slower than from those at 50 feet from good Major 12u pitchers.
I have noticed that switching back and forth from 12 to 13 age groups often leads to timing problems at the plate. This happens frequently to kids playing middle school ball and travel ball simultaneously. Each manager is entitled to pick the best method to enhance their teams chances at winning the Elite 32. I'm sure the Dirtbags are doing just that.
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Originally posted by Dirtbags
The Dirtbags decided against the Atlanta Super NIT because of school issues and also because we have qualified for the Elite 32. We feel we are playing the teams that will prepare us for the Elite 32. Since the fall began we are 16-0 against 12 Major teams and 5-1 against 13aaa and also played a 14aa and have not played any 12aa teams. Like the Bandits and the Pride, whoever we play, we know we will probably see their best pitchers. We will play a couple of 13 Major tournaments and a couple more 13aaa before the Elite 32 and trust me, the pitching that we see there is just as good as the best 12 Majors. We are going to the Nations Invite in Tn where a lot of the top teams in the country are suppose to be coming and we still have the Charlotte Super NIT. Based on our Power points, I believe we are playing a decent schedule and would have traveled enough to see some outstanding teams and pitching. Because of gas prices, I think most teams are limited on how far they can travel and have to be selective on which tournaments they pick. The bad thing about playing the 13's is that we get NO power points on beating 13's that are better than some 12maj. I think we will be ready when it is time to make that 11 hour drive to Disney. We do regret not playing the Atanta SNIT, but will be watching it closely to see who comes out on top. My money is on the Bandits and Canes, but there are several teams in there that can win it if they can save pitching and get a good draw in Bracket play. Good luck to everyone, should be a great weekend for baseball.
Tim Bailey
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G-Man
326 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2011 : 11:41:05
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An easy solution to Mill Creek dropping out. Replace that Game with Sandtown and Team Florida playing each other. Team Florida was scheduled to play Mill Creek at 10:45 am Saturday morning. So now make that game ST vs TF. That should really heat pool play up.
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Gwinnett
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Posted - 03/16/2011 : 15:11:56
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| G-man, great idea. That would be a great matchup! |
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10 BB
264 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2011 : 17:12:25
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Originally posted by therealist
Issuing forfeits would not only influence the pools, but would have a greater influence on the later bracket play due to the fact all these teams would be able to save pitching. Could these teams play some teams twice within a pool?
Playing teams twice within a pool would also influence pitching for the teams that had to play the extra game no matter if that teams pitching wasn't recorded! I'm sure USSSA has a team to fill in the slot and are just waiting for the 11th hour to announce to cut down on the complaints. They will say they worked frantically all the way till the end and this will have to work no matter who that team is! |
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mlbscout
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Posted - 03/16/2011 : 20:41:00
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To be fair, during pool play every team needs to play the same number of games. Forfeits are not the answer since they would give an advantage to those teams not having to play 3 games. I think that G-man's suggestion is a very good one. I'm sure that Team Florida and Sandtown would both agree on that arrangement. Maybe the tournament director should call MBA or the Dirtbags and offer them a free entry.
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Originally posted by therealist
Issuing forfeits would not only influence the pools, but would have a greater influence on the later bracket play due to the fact all these teams would be able to save pitching. Could these teams play some teams twice within a pool?
Playing teams twice within a pool would also influence pitching for the teams that had to play the extra game no matter if that teams pitching wasn't recorded! I'm sure USSSA has a team to fill in the slot and are just waiting for the 11th hour to announce to cut down on the complaints. They will say they worked frantically all the way till the end and this will have to work no matter who that team is!
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OBXBlue
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Posted - 03/17/2011 : 08:21:24
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We get the Dirtbags this weekend in Greensboro. Rest assured, they are up to the task of any teams in Atlanta. And as far as playing up and beating 13U teams, I think it helps, especially from a pitching standpoint. And they are loaded with pitching. I tend to agree with the Bandits pick, but if the Canes can save pitching, they will be very tough in the finals. You guys are really high on Sandtown, so it will be interesting to see if they fulfill your prophecies. I would also like to know if there is a video feed coming from there. I would love to see the Bandits and TF play. They seem to be the consensus studs here, and judging by records and competition, I would not argue. I enjoy the witty banter between you guys too. Come on up to Charlotte if you don't win this, and we can start the discussion over!!! Enjoy guys, and best of luck to all.
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Originally posted by Dirtbags
The Dirtbags decided against the Atlanta Super NIT because of school issues and also because we have qualified for the Elite 32. We feel we are playing the teams that will prepare us for the Elite 32. Since the fall began we are 16-0 against 12 Major teams and 5-1 against 13aaa and also played a 14aa and have not played any 12aa teams. Like the Bandits and the Pride, whoever we play, we know we will probably see their best pitchers. We will play a couple of 13 Major tournaments and a couple more 13aaa before the Elite 32 and trust me, the pitching that we see there is just as good as the best 12 Majors. We are going to the Nations Invite in Tn where a lot of the top teams in the country are suppose to be coming and we still have the Charlotte Super NIT. Based on our Power points, I believe we are playing a decent schedule and would have traveled enough to see some outstanding teams and pitching. Because of gas prices, I think most teams are limited on how far they can travel and have to be selective on which tournaments they pick. The bad thing about playing the 13's is that we get NO power points on beating 13's that are better than some 12maj. I think we will be ready when it is time to make that 11 hour drive to Disney. We do regret not playing the Atanta SNIT, but will be watching it closely to see who comes out on top. My money is on the Bandits and Canes, but there are several teams in there that can win it if they can save pitching and get a good draw in Bracket play. Good luck to everyone, should be a great weekend for baseball.
Tim Bailey
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baseballpapa
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Posted - 03/17/2011 : 09:19:20
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| If Papa is not mistaken, Charlotte is on our schedule. I just hope that by the time Charlotte rolls around that we will be a little more consistent that we have showed early on. This weekend will answer a lot of questions as to where we are and what needs to be done to get ready for the next step and that is why we play the early tournaments. If you don't know what's broke then you dang sure can't fix it. |
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mlbscout
77 Posts |
Posted - 03/17/2011 : 09:21:51
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The tournament in Greensboro this weekend has the Dirtbags against four AAA teams and a Major team which has not played a single tournament this year. This competition is hardly equal to the Atlanta Super NIT.
The reaction time for the batter at 13 AAA and 13AA is longer than at the 12 u Major level at 50 feet. Pitchers dominate at the 12u Major level while hitters take over at the 13u - for the most part. The Dirtbags have a very good team and should make an effort to play teams at their competitive level.
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Originally posted by OBXBlue
We get the Dirtbags this weekend in Greensboro. Rest assured, they are up to the task of any teams in Atlanta. And as far as playing up and beating 13U teams, I think it helps, especially from a pitching standpoint. And they are loaded with pitching. I tend to agree with the Bandits pick, but if the Canes can save pitching, they will be very tough in the finals. You guys are really high on Sandtown, so it will be interesting to see if they fulfill your prophecies. I would also like to know if there is a video feed coming from there. I would love to see the Bandits and TF play. They seem to be the consensus studs here, and judging by records and competition, I would not argue. I enjoy the witty banter between you guys too. Come on up to Charlotte if you don't win this, and we can start the discussion over!!! Enjoy guys, and best of luck to all.
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Originally posted by Dirtbags
The Dirtbags decided against the Atlanta Super NIT because of school issues and also because we have qualified for the Elite 32. We feel we are playing the teams that will prepare us for the Elite 32. Since the fall began we are 16-0 against 12 Major teams and 5-1 against 13aaa and also played a 14aa and have not played any 12aa teams. Like the Bandits and the Pride, whoever we play, we know we will probably see their best pitchers. We will play a couple of 13 Major tournaments and a couple more 13aaa before the Elite 32 and trust me, the pitching that we see there is just as good as the best 12 Majors. We are going to the Nations Invite in Tn where a lot of the top teams in the country are suppose to be coming and we still have the Charlotte Super NIT. Based on our Power points, I believe we are playing a decent schedule and would have traveled enough to see some outstanding teams and pitching. Because of gas prices, I think most teams are limited on how far they can travel and have to be selective on which tournaments they pick. The bad thing about playing the 13's is that we get NO power points on beating 13's that are better than some 12maj. I think we will be ready when it is time to make that 11 hour drive to Disney. We do regret not playing the Atanta SNIT, but will be watching it closely to see who comes out on top. My money is on the Bandits and Canes, but there are several teams in there that can win it if they can save pitching and get a good draw in Bracket play. Good luck to everyone, should be a great weekend for baseball.
Tim Bailey
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stinger
120 Posts |
Posted - 03/17/2011 : 10:19:47
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| MLB - how about the Dirtbags let you decide where they should play each week and then you let them decide how to spend your money? Deal?? |
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OBXBlue
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Posted - 03/17/2011 : 11:05:47
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No doubt about that Scout, but the Ditbags pitchers have been effective from 60 feet as well as 50. That distance can only make them tougher from 50. I will let you know this weekend, but I am pretty sure I already know what they are made of. And yes, Papa, you guys are coming, and I can't wait to see your team. I hope the Force gets to play you guys, as it will be enjoyable to see how our kids stack up against your Bandits. I hope we look better than in the 1 full team practice on a real field we had. Bad weather luck for sure!!! If not, it will get ugly quickly. Enjoy guys!!!
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Originally posted by mlbscout
The tournament in Greensboro this weekend has the Dirtbags against four AAA teams and a Major team which has not played a single tournament this year. This competition is hardly equal to the Atlanta Super NIT.
The reaction time for the batter at 13 AAA and 13AA is longer than at the 12 u Major level at 50 feet. Pitchers dominate at the 12u Major level while hitters take over at the 13u - for the most part. The Dirtbags have a very good team and should make an effort to play teams at their competitive level.
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G-Man
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Posted - 03/17/2011 : 13:27:03
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| Is this the same Dirtbags team that played in the AAU National Championship at Disney last summer in 11u? |
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catch and throw
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Posted - 03/17/2011 : 13:51:25
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| I'll say it now, Sandtown takes it all at super nit! |
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OBXBlue
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Posted - 03/17/2011 : 15:03:29
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It is, but they have added several high caliber players since then. They did not show well there I know.
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Originally posted by G-Man
Is this the same Dirtbags team that played in the AAU National Championship at Disney last summer in 11u?
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Dirtbags
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Posted - 03/17/2011 : 20:22:35
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| Okay mlbscout, for the last time, we will not be in ATLANTA, free tournament or not. We will be in TN for the Nations Invite so feel free to come up and watch us or if you are with a team, I can give you a number to call and get your team in the tournament. We have Qualified for the Elite 32 and did not feel the need to spend so much money to come and prove anything to anyone. We planned on 1 big out of state tournament, not counting South Carolina and we decided the Nations Invite would be the tournament with the best talent. 13 year old pitching from 54 feet is very close to 12 at 50 and some of it is faster. The 13's also are bigger and put the ball in play which means out defense gets a workout, we don't or cant depend on the strike-out. G-man we are the same team from AAU in Florida, but have lost 5 of the weakest players and added 5 new players, including 2 from the Charlotte Hurricans and the Greensboro Titans best hitter with also a kid that had been playing up. We feel we have a team that can compete with anyone, however we can also lose to anyone as proven this past weekend when we came back from a 7-4 6th inning deficit, to win 8-7. |
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G-Man
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Posted - 03/18/2011 : 01:16:32
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Wasnt sure if it was same team or not. We were guest playing with the last team you faced in the AAU National Championships at Disney. I remember your team well.
However I have to disagree with you on the 13u pitching. We play up in 13u and 14u and I havent seen any 13u pitchers that throw as hard as far as reaction time as some of the top pitchers in 12u we have faced. Defense there is more ground to cover so on a larger field than 12u it is a test of your defense.
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Originally posted by Dirtbags
Okay mlbscout, for the last time, we will not be in ATLANTA, free tournament or not. We will be in TN for the Nations Invite so feel free to come up and watch us or if you are with a team, I can give you a number to call and get your team in the tournament. We have Qualified for the Elite 32 and did not feel the need to spend so much money to come and prove anything to anyone. We planned on 1 big out of state tournament, not counting South Carolina and we decided the Nations Invite would be the tournament with the best talent. 13 year old pitching from 54 feet is very close to 12 at 50 and some of it is faster. The 13's also are bigger and put the ball in play which means out defense gets a workout, we don't or cant depend on the strike-out. G-man we are the same team from AAU in Florida, but have lost 5 of the weakest players and added 5 new players, including 2 from the Charlotte Hurricans and the Greensboro Titans best hitter with also a kid that had been playing up. We feel we have a team that can compete with anyone, however we can also lose to anyone as proven this past weekend when we came back from a 7-4 6th inning deficit, to win 8-7.
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Hurricane
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Posted - 03/18/2011 : 09:28:13
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I'll say it now, Sandtown takes it all at super nit!
They don't have the pitching to win it all! Bandits might however but I think a team from outside GA wins it all! |
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baseballpapa
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Posted - 03/18/2011 : 09:38:52
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| Papa does not think that the DirtBags have anything to prove to anyone in Atlanta. The Bandits have played them several times and find them to be a great team playing under a class organization. If they chose to come the field would have been stronger due to them being there but the field is as strong as any tournament in the nation without them being there. There will come a time this year when all of the "Beeg Boys" will have the opportunity to share the same field and "Ol what a day that will be". Papa has got butterflys thinking of this weekend as I am not sure our guys are as ready as I would like to them to be but "It is what it is and that's all that is" I got that from Popeye the Sailor Man that said I yam what I yam and that's all that I yam. |
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one in the wagon
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Posted - 03/18/2011 : 11:34:28
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| In my opinion how can you not pick the Bandits to win this thing...I have witnessed all there pitching and hitting all of there kids are capable of power and there arms are loaded. past all that IF you do manage to put the ball in play there defense is tremendous..my pick is Bandits to win it in a close game over team florida |
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mlbscout
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Posted - 03/18/2011 : 16:38:21
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Papa: I beg to differ with your statement that "the field is as strong as any tournament in the nation". I admit that the Atlanta Super NIT is a very good tournament and that there are a couple of teams which are in the top 10 in the nation - Bandits and Team Florida- Other than those two teams, which other team or teams are among the top 10 in the country or even in the southeast? How do you rate this Super NIT with those played in the West coast, at Disney, in Miami, and Arizona? Just asking!
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Originally posted by baseballpapa
Papa does not think that the DirtBags have anything to prove to anyone in Atlanta. The Bandits have played them several times and find them to be a great team playing under a class organization. If they chose to come the field would have been stronger due to them being there but the field is as strong as any tournament in the nation without them being there. There will come a time this year when all of the "Beeg Boys" will have the opportunity to share the same field and "Ol what a day that will be". Papa has got butterflys thinking of this weekend as I am not sure our guys are as ready as I would like to them to be but "It is what it is and that's all that is" I got that from Popeye the Sailor Man that said I yam what I yam and that's all that I yam.
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