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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
 Posted - 02/22/2011 : 08:04:21
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G-Man: You did not read in this forum anything that Papa said that took anything away from the Bones team. They played good and the Bandits didn't and thats the short story. But behind the short story the game of baseball steps in. The only point that I was trying to make and evidently didn't word it very well is that the game of baseball will beat you by itself without any help from the other team. The game is a game of inches, The difference between a triple in the gap and the left fielder making a great catch for an out sometimes is micro inches.
I want to be clear that I was trying to point out nothing negative about the Bones teams and was just trying to make a point that the game will jump up and bite you any time the game wants to.
One thing that has came out of this is the Bullseye on the Bandits Backs is only becoming bigger and bigger and that we must find a way to play with more intensity and always put our best step forward to be able to beat back the challenges you guys are throwing our way. But thank you all for competing the way you do as it only makes us know that we also have to work harder to stay where we are.
I am and will always be proud of my team whether they win or lose. They are some of the greatest kids any team could hope to have and do everything that Coach Troy asks of them.
I will almost be relieved to get that first loss behind us where you guys can find something else to beat up on. But come ready for a fight. |
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bonesbaseball
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Posted - 02/22/2011 : 08:05:00
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Bandit hawk,you made some good points but keep in mind this bones team is still green and not to bad for there first tourney as a team.They are very well coached and still have work to do.With this being said there is nowhere but up for this team and they will get much,much better.Also watch out for the 11u bones they also can hang. |
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highcheese99
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Posted - 02/22/2011 : 08:45:16
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G-Man
326 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2011 : 10:44:26
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All games are important even pool play. At least thats what it told me when I saw you guys bring in one of your top pitchers to shut them down and give your team a chance to pull it out. Now me personally if you dont win pool play games no big deal. Bracket play games are what get you to championships. As for the importance of pool play, come on Hawk I was there in the stands and know what I heard.
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Originally posted by Bandit_Hawk
Some of you guys really need to get this into perspective. First of all, it was a pool game. I will never understand why anyone places so much importance on a matchup during pool play. If anything, it worked out better for the Bandits as we got in an extra game this weekend that we wouldn't have had we won the Bones game. After seeing how poorly we played in the first game, an extra live game is just what our boys needed.
G-man, our pitching prior to #20 entering the game was just fine. We only gave up 2 hits for the entire 5 innings !!
Stop reading things into what is said. No one is trying to take away anything from the Bones team. They played great, were very poised and were well coached. They took advantage of the mistakes we made in the field and almost beat us. That's baseball. Papa and I have both said it before - if you come to the field and battle with every pitch, you have a chance to beat anyone. Bones proved that this past weekend.
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pcbaseball
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Posted - 02/22/2011 : 13:16:04
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| Thanks papa and bandit. Good luck this season. You did out hit us 2-3. We struggled with our bats this weekend. Usually our bats are strong. We have never faced pitching like we saw this weekend. |
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TAZ980002
831 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2011 : 14:26:11
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Originally posted by G-Man
All games are important even pool play. At least thats what it told me when I saw you guys bring in one of your top pitchers to shut them down and give your team a chance to pull it out. Now me personally if you dont win pool play games no big deal. Bracket play games are what get you to championships. As for the importance of pool play, come on Hawk I was there in the stands and know what I heard.
G-man, if it's OK with you, we will decide which games are important for our team. If what you heard wasn't spoken directly to you, then all you have in your hands is a pile of speculation. How about next time you are there watching our game you introduce yourself instead of lurking in the shadows and speculating as to who is, and who is not our best pitchers? In our opinions, all of our pitchers are the best !! |
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TAZ980002
831 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2011 : 14:28:13
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Originally posted by pcbaseball
Thanks papa and bandit. Good luck this season. You did out hit us 2-3. We struggled with our bats this weekend. Usually our bats are strong. We have never faced pitching like we saw this weekend.
PC, we can relate to struggling bats but we are really glad that our bats woke up after our game with you guys. Fortunately, we've only seen this happen 3 or 4 times in the past year or so. Best of luck to you guys. |
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TAZ980002
831 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2011 : 14:32:10
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Originally posted by bonesbaseball
Bandit hawk,you made some good points but keep in mind this bones team is still green and not to bad for there first tourney as a team.They are very well coached and still have work to do.With this being said there is nowhere but up for this team and they will get much,much better.Also watch out for the 11u bones they also can hang.
Bones, we, along with many others were very impressed with your team. They showed poise, grit and determination. They were also very sound in the field, on the mound and at the plate. It's obvious that they are being well coached. I hope you haven't read anything else into what I've said about your team. I hope we get the chance to play you guys again. Our boys like nothing better than a good challenge. Coach Troy would like another shot at you too !!
Best of luck !! |
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SMASH
253 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2011 : 15:38:56
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| How did Bones do in the Silver bracket? You would have thought after hangin with the Bandits and Scorpions that they would walk right thru the Silver bracket. Didn't happen? Lets not annoint Bones quite yet. |
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whodat
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Posted - 02/22/2011 : 16:09:10
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| wouldnt it be interesting to see how good the teams really are if 12u was backed to 275 or even 250 which ive seen some hit 250 and above but ive seen alot more hit 225 1/2 |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2011 : 16:54:08
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I think that anytime you step between the lines and accept the challenge of playing another team that it is important. In the format where all the teams go into brackets regardless of pool play it's certainly not as important. But this past weekend a loss gave the chance to move you down into the consolation bracket which immediately made the game with the Bones more important. This weekend in the Triple Crown there will be two brackets "Gold" and "Silver" that will be decided by the records after pool play. No matter what any of you say I can promise you that there will be 20 teams trying to get into the Gold Division. I also will state for the record that Papa would rather lose in the Gold Divison than win the Silver Division. Playing the best will only make you better and remember that they can beat you but they are not allowed to eat you. I believe that it will be almost as hard getting into the Gold as it will be to win the tournament. I like that you are not able to coast in pool play and this format makes for a bigger challenge all the way around.
At the very least it changes the way Coach manages a game and what pitcher you are willing to use up early for the chance to play for the Gold. |
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Spartan4
913 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2011 : 17:46:01
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| Of course every game matters!! They wouldn't keep score if it didn't....But most boys can't throw 5-6 in one day so they get used a little bit on Saturdays. I think this Bones team will probably shock teams this season. I saw a little and was told by all that the Bones are STRONG..... |
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G-Man
326 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2011 : 18:24:16
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Bandit Hawk I did introduce myself to baseballpapa after the game. You are correct about which games YOUR team can choose. However I was commenting on your statement that you were trying to say that pool play games didnt matter to YOUR team. I just begged to differ based on what I heard after the game.
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Originally posted by Bandit_Hawk
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Originally posted by G-Man
All games are important even pool play. At least thats what it told me when I saw you guys bring in one of your top pitchers to shut them down and give your team a chance to pull it out. Now me personally if you dont win pool play games no big deal. Bracket play games are what get you to championships. As for the importance of pool play, come on Hawk I was there in the stands and know what I heard.
G-man, if it's OK with you, we will decide which games are important for our team. If what you heard wasn't spoken directly to you, then all you have in your hands is a pile of speculation. How about next time you are there watching our game you introduce yourself instead of lurking in the shadows and speculating as to who is, and who is not our best pitchers? In our opinions, all of our pitchers are the best !!
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loveforthegame25
448 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2011 : 18:56:37
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| Buddy of mine saw Bandits play. Said they were the real deal. Kinda built like an Astro style. Ran the bases like crazy. |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2011 : 19:53:08
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| G-Man: Thanks for all the advice but the last thing the Bandits need is another Coach. We have about 14 coaches with most of them being Moms. But they are the prettiest and most experienced baseball Moms you have ever seen and they are exactly why Papa picked the Bandits. I know that in your vast travels that you have seen it all and can also assure you that you have never been around a team with more resolve to identify the problems and find the best solution to getting the problems fixed. Too early to judge and too early to change things. We will stay with what brought us to the Party. |
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catch and throw
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Posted - 02/22/2011 : 19:58:48
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| I don't think Bandits will have that hard of a time getting to gold bracket.They got a good draw compared to alot of others! |
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11baseball11
90 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2011 : 20:20:52
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| How about we get back to the triple crown. Thursday night looks to be a good night of ball. Five of the six teams playing are top ten. It will be a chance to see some of the better teams retooled and playing each other. |
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G-Man
326 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2011 : 23:36:30
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Sorry Papa I guess I just dont follow your comments. I am still scratching my head trying to figure out where I offered advice within any of my post in this thread or where any of my comments suggested I was trying to offer coaching advice.
On a side note your comment about the moms has to be the truest statement I have ever heard on a forum. Its the moms who are the glue that hold teams together in youth sports. Us dads just think we are in control 
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Originally posted by baseballpapa
G-Man: Thanks for all the advice but the last thing the Bandits need is another Coach. We have about 14 coaches with most of them being Moms. But they are the prettiest and most experienced baseball Moms you have ever seen and they are exactly why Papa picked the Bandits. I know that in your vast travels that you have seen it all and can also assure you that you have never been around a team with more resolve to identify the problems and find the best solution to getting the problems fixed. Too early to judge and too early to change things. We will stay with what brought us to the Party.
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TAZ980002
831 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2011 : 08:33:07
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Originally posted by catch and throw
I don't think Bandits will have that hard of a time getting to gold bracket.They got a good draw compared to alot of others!
The whining has begun ... |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2011 : 16:54:35
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GMan: Don't worry too much about figuring Papa out. They say that I might be in the beginning stages of Alheizmers and I don't know what I am writing most of the time. I think my Coaching comment might have come from your pool play comment but I might have just made what I said up for the sake of keeping the conversation going. Guess what I should have said early on is that my Bandits really stunk for this one game and the Bones really played well as that is about where the conversation ended.
But I agree that we should get back to the Triple Crown. Are you and little guy playing and with whom and how do you see this one playing out. There will certainly be some coaching strategy in this pool play as I know all of the big boys will be trying to get to the Gold Division. I believe that we can all agree that this format makes the pool play much more interesting. |
Edited by - baseballpapa on 02/23/2011 17:45:27 |
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Spartan4
913 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2011 : 18:29:54
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Originally posted by Bandit_Hawk
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Originally posted by catch and throw
I don't think Bandits will have that hard of a time getting to gold bracket.They got a good draw compared to alot of others!
The whining has begun ...
Of course it has, you actually made your team better and played to win!! Apparently the only reason we actually scored runs and won our games last weekend is because our pitcher pitched too much....He didn't have 8rbi's in the ship tho!!! |
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baseball4ever101
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Posted - 02/26/2011 : 10:39:04
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| So far, its looking like there will be a good finish. |
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bmoser
1633 Posts |
Posted - 02/26/2011 : 21:10:30
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| EC Black Knights are better than the posters on the forums predicted, and the Lightning win vs HPCD Black was a surprise. Besides that, no big surprises so far. Maybe Jags and EC Stars not making Gold based upon all I've been reading. I know I know, just 1 tourney, 1 game, ect.., doesn't mean anything...don't get all excited I'm just making some observations based upon the posts I've been reading. |
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ecbstars
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Posted - 02/28/2011 : 08:41:54
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The draws were tough. Wish this event was just one bracket. Still a fun weekend. Happy to get 5 games in against some great teams. Congrats to my friend Terry & all HPB  for a Silver win.
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EC Black Knights are better than the posters on the forums predicted, and the Lightning win vs HPCD Black was a surprise. Besides that, no big surprises so far. Maybe Jags and EC Stars not making Gold based upon all I've been reading. I know I know, just 1 tourney, 1 game, ect.., doesn't mean anything...don't get all excited I'm just making some observations based upon the posts I've been reading.
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kingofthehill
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Posted - 02/28/2011 : 09:00:19
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Papa!!!!hope u are doing well. Sorry i have been out of touch for awhile but this economy has been tuff on the flower business. My boy is coming up that way to play soon with a team from St. Pete. Hope to see you and maybe we can rehash some old rivalrys.
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Originally posted by baseballpapa
GMan: Don't worry too much about figuring Papa out. They say that I might be in the beginning stages of Alheizmers and I don't know what I am writing most of the time. I think my Coaching comment might have come from your pool play comment but I might have just made what I said up for the sake of keeping the conversation going. Guess what I should have said early on is that my Bandits really stunk for this one game and the Bones really played well as that is about where the conversation ended.
But I agree that we should get back to the Triple Crown. Are you and little guy playing and with whom and how do you see this one playing out. There will certainly be some coaching strategy in this pool play as I know all of the big boys will be trying to get to the Gold Division. I believe that we can all agree that this format makes the pool play much more interesting.
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