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HITANDRUN
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 Posted - 06/29/2009 : 11:13:33
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I was looking back at an old post I made about predictions or something and found some very interesting predictions. Seems most people were pretty dead on about who would be the best teams at 10U this season. Wondering how the 2nd tier teams ended up in rankings/
I think we all assumed the ECB Tigers would do better than they did this season. I slept on the Sandtown team and was dead wrong about them.
My predictions were at the begining:
#1 Boynton Bandits-easy pick
#2 6-4-3-some people didn't think they would be here.
#3 Grip-when they played were very good but we didnt see them alot
#4 ECB Tigers-had the talent just didnt seem to gel
#5 NYO if they play some travel tournaments-good defense wins games
#6 Kennesaw
Who came out ahead out of these teams below and some I left off.
Oregon Park
Hobgood Heat
OP Storm
East Side Venom
North Georgia Storm
Sandy Plains Wildcats
Alpharetta Athletics ?
Acworth Warriors
Euharlee Mudcats
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Titan1
210 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2009 : 12:53:35
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| East Side Venom are the only one of those teams to win a state championship. |
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HITANDRUN
436 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2009 : 13:59:11
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| Are the second tier teams listed AA or AAA teams. |
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TAZ980002
831 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2009 : 14:15:31
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From Gwinnett, I think the 2 best teams that most of you did not see were Mill Creek Red and Collins Hill. Both played GGBL which limited their abilities to play other tournaments. Both teams played in and won several tournaments though. From what I know, both of them will be stronger next year and the Mill Creek coach has been talking as if they will not play GGBL next year. That should free them up to play in some Triple Crown, Nations, USTBA and other tournaments. My guess is that they will do very well when they do.
Not mentioned in HITANDRUN's original post above is Holly Springs Express. They have proven to be a worthy opponent for anyone. |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2009 : 14:21:49
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| In my opinion the East Cobb Scorpions proved to be one the toughest teams this year. I wish you could have seen them play at Cooperstown as they showed the nation that in any given game they can play with the best in the United States. If they keep the team they had in Cooperstown together I predict that they will be a force next year. |
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bmoser
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Posted - 06/29/2009 : 21:00:10
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Add 10U Wills Park Yellow Jackets to the list.
I saw 10U Holly Springs coming. Ditto JC1964: 10U MC Red & Collins Hill. Strong teams who need to lose their GGBL blankets.
Big story: USTBA and TC eroding USSSA market share at the top skill levels, especially in the Northern Arc of affluent Georgians.
I saw Forsyth County making great strides with H.S. States runners up, and the Forsyth younger age groups gaining ground.
2009 may have been the peak of over saturation. The number of travel teams swelled, and the parks and umps struggled to keep up. More AA caliber teams = fewer Major and AAA teams + fewer quality umps to go around. More teams sprouted the rise of USTBA, Nations, and even helped non-sanctioned tourneys thrive in a down economy.
Georgia gained ground, while Texas fell back a bit. Florida seems to have gained ground on California.
The Braves slipped further backwards into corporate malaise.
2009 was the wettest season in a long long time. The season's start crept earlier yet w/ more February "frost" tourneys than ever before.
That's the way I saw it. How about you?
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CoachMark
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Posted - 06/29/2009 : 23:06:13
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| The #2 team in the state is the Sandtown Red Sox and they are the only team that can give the Bandits a run in my opinion. Since they haven't played each other, I'll guess we'll never really know for sure how they would match-up. This team wins consistently with good pitching, speed, defense and hitting. They have it all. It is a major mistake to leave them off this list. |
Edited by - CoachMark on 06/30/2009 08:41:18 |
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HITANDRUN
436 Posts |
Posted - 06/30/2009 : 06:41:32
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| Yes, Holly Springs was right there in the top 5 or 6 area, however this was a prediction from the begining of the year, Holly Springs struggled early on but proved they were as good as anyone later on in the season. I also didnt mention Styxx team which could be top 4 during any tournament. I am sure I left off some others. |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 06/30/2009 : 09:03:04
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I think that this threads just reinforces what I have said from the beginning that Georgia is a great place to play baseball. And in my opinion the one thing that makes Georgia baseball great is the level of competition that can be found without traveling very far. Read the above posts and the names of all the really good teams that have all had outstanding years.
Baseball Papa has never enjoyed a year more than this one. It has been a special ride and one that I will never forget.
Coach Mark: If I have one regret it would be that we didn't have the opportunity to play the Sandtown Red Sox. I truly believe that this would be a great game of baseball with 2 of Georgia's best squaring off against each other. I still remember the game with them last year that went down to the wire. |
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newman
21 Posts |
Posted - 06/30/2009 : 10:23:58
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| What happened to the "big tournament", I think Titan was putting together? It was only going to have top 10-12 teams in it. Did it fall by the way-side? |
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Sox
55 Posts |
Posted - 06/30/2009 : 11:18:07
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Papa even if we played and won, No Team could ever take the Bandits place. All that they have done could never be erased. They have added a new page to the Youth Baseball History Book, 10 Years from now people will gather at the water cooler at work or be sitting around a LL park somewhere and the 10U Bandits from Riggold Ga. will come up. Congrats on the Number 1 ranking, Well Deserved.
Tony Douglas
10U Sandtown Red Sox
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Originally posted by baseballpapa
I think that this threads just reinforces what I have said from the beginning that Georgia is a great place to play baseball. And in my opinion the one thing that makes Georgia baseball great is the level of competition that can be found without traveling very far. Read the above posts and the names of all the really good teams that have all had outstanding years.
Baseball Papa has never enjoyed a year more than this one. It has been a special ride and one that I will never forget.
Coach Mark: If I have one regret it would be that we didn't have the opportunity to play the Sandtown Red Sox. I truly believe that this would be a great game of baseball with 2 of Georgia's best squaring off against each other. I still remember the game with them last year that went down to the wire.
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Titan1
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Posted - 06/30/2009 : 11:31:16
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people seem to quit talking about it.So I moved on
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Originally posted by newman
What happened to the "big tournament", I think Titan was putting together? It was only going to have top 10-12 teams in it. Did it fall by the way-side?
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newman
21 Posts |
Posted - 06/30/2009 : 14:31:06
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Come on guys:
Bandits
6-4-3
Sandtown
Kennesaw
Scorpions
Chili Dogs Black
Chili Dogs Red
Tigers
Holly Springs
Grip
Stixx
NYO
This would be as interesting as any tournament!! |
Edited by - newman on 06/30/2009 16:33:41 |
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Titan1
210 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2009 : 10:52:09
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| In fall/spring/summer we have played a combined 83 games. Won a little more than half and played against anyone that they threw up against us. We have one more tournament to go. I am excited about next year because of how much better we have played these last three months.My fall team will be better than my spring/summer team. It will be deeper and the players will be more skilled. I will have to let some great kids go, which will be hard, in order for our team to grow. In the course of this spring I have had to let two coaches go because they had opposing ideas about what was best for our team. Oddly enough,once I let the second one go my team seemed to gel even more. I learned to always stick with my gut, go with my instincts. I am still perplexed about the mind set of 10 year old children. It seems that I was much different at 10. We played incredibly flat at times including the two losses in the state championship.We do better as underdogs than we do as front runners. NOt sure how you can be unmotivated to play baseball at 10 but sometimes they where. Always found that very odd. Anyway, look forward to meeting even more of you guys this coming up year. Best of luck to all of you as you finish off your year. |
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BROOKSTEAM
145 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2009 : 17:49:16
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| Really suprised at the lack of mention of the ECB Bulldogs. They just finished the season as runner up in AAU World Series beating NYO Toros 13-7 in the Semis. They beat the Scorpions in the AAU state's, beat the Tigers and were semifinalists (losing to the Grip) in the North GA USTBA states (going 3-0 in the pool and beating Sandy Plains in the bracket play). They also beat Holly Springs in two consecutive scrimmages, and went 2-0-1 against Wills Park Jackets. Overall season record of approx 50-19 seemed pretty impressive for a first year team. |
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AllStar
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Posted - 07/03/2009 : 18:47:58
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Originally posted by Titan1
...we have played a combined 83 games....
...10 year old children...
We played incredibly flat at times...
Hmmmm.... |
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Reggie
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Posted - 07/03/2009 : 22:31:12
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| Scimmages is what it is, you cant count those. How many tournaments did they win when the top 5 teams listed played? They were better than expected, but not a top team. |
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Titan1
210 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2009 : 22:50:07
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HAHA
Anyway had a few kids that where more me me me players than team players. Two of those are leaving after the World Series.
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Originally posted by AllStar
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Originally posted by Titan1
...we have played a combined 83 games....
...10 year old children...
We played incredibly flat at times...
Hmmmm....
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baseballpapa
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Posted - 07/05/2009 : 09:08:08
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The season is slowly winding down and many teams have slipped into the "idle" mode while others are finishing up by competing in the world and national type tournaments. Bandits are taking a well deserved rest and unless something really interesting comes up we will not start back up until the fall nationals roll around.
This is also the time of year that teams are merging, reloading, or maybe even a complete rebuild. Some of the teams of this year will be history and we will not even recognize them next year. Some teams come from established programs that will make some adjustments and fine tuning and be fully ready for next year. I have heard of several good teams that plan on taking the best of both and forming a super elite team. This method will make you much better quick or sometimes backfire and explode but I have seen it work in the past. Key is making sure that the players and parents and coaches bond and that "TEAM" is #1 concern.
What a special group of kids this 10 year old group is and what a season of thrills they have made for themselves, their parents, and their fans.
I so look forward to seeing how things pan out and I can't wait for the next chapter in the baseball lives of these young men. As they get older they should only get better.
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blosee
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Posted - 07/05/2009 : 12:16:11
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The ECB Bulldogs did not win a tournament when the top 5 teams were participating. However, some of the 6 through 10 teams that are often mentioned were beat convincingly by the Bulldogs more than once and they should at least be in the 6 through 10 conversation!!!
Nonetheless, I want to give the coaching staff and the boys a pat on the back, especially the head coach. He got the full measure out of the talent he was dealt. Every player on this roster got better from top to bottom. The boys were coached by a stern discipline unbiased coach who cared about them. Additionally, he did not have a kid on the team. (No Daddy Ball)
At the beginning of the season they were labeled a team full of A and AA players at best. Unfortunately, the label was somewhat correct!! This wasn’t the most talent filled roster. But, these boys and coaches didn’t buy in to that and lay down for any team. They worked hard throughout the season and changed the label from “easy win” to a force to be reckoned with. You can’t help but wonder how well these coaches’ would have done with the talent of some of the teams they faced and beat. Good job Bulldog coaching staff and kids!!! Way to do more with less!!!!!!! 1st year team 46-19-1 WOW!!!!!! Coach of the year nominee, Coach Chris????????
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Originally posted by Reggie
Scimmages is what it is, you cant count those. How many tournaments did they win when the top 5 teams listed played? They were better than expected, but not a top team.
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stallion
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Posted - 07/08/2009 : 14:38:21
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| For the ten year old group, I think this was a very interesting season. You are starting to recognize some seperation between kids. Also, you see some kids that were considered studs losing ground. You see teams intergrating. You see some teams that were winners in the past ---breaking up. For you old heads, the kids that appear to be seperating themselves from the fray at this early stage, do they continue or is it a mix, where some of the others catch up. Give us your thoughts on this, if you have been doing this for some time now. Let me make the question simple. Do the studs stay the studs or do they dissapear? What age can you really see that talent? |
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AllStar
762 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2009 : 09:39:15
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Originally posted by stallion
For the ten year old group, I think this was a very interesting season. You are starting to recognize some seperation between kids. Also, you see some kids that were considered studs losing ground. You see teams intergrating. You see some teams that were winners in the past ---breaking up. For you old heads, the kids that appear to be seperating themselves from the fray at this early stage, do they continue or is it a mix, where some of the others catch up. Give us your thoughts on this, if you have been doing this for some time now. Let me make the question simple. Do the studs stay the studs or do they dissapear? What age can you really see that talent?
As the father of a rising 14YO I can tell you that there is no way to tell. Some of the studs at 10 still are and will be until at least JV. Some of the best players from 10 and 11 that I remember aren't even playing anymore. Some that were non-factors at that age have grown and worked hard and are now studs. Most, of course, are average and the ones that are the hardest workers are seeing some benefit.
I will say that I could probably name 10 players to whom the game came really easy at 10, 11, 12 and didn't develop the work ethic that they will ultimately need and paid the price in their 13YO seasons. Less "talented" players have passed them, especially in their understanding of the little things it takes to succeed in baseball.
Each year baseball intelligence and mental toughness become more important.
As Yogi said, "90% of the game is half mental." As highcheese says, take a kid to the park and have a blast. |
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12uCoach
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Posted - 07/10/2009 : 11:20:55
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Originally posted by AllStar
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Originally posted by stallion
For the ten year old group, I think this was a very interesting season. You are starting to recognize some seperation between kids. Also, you see some kids that were considered studs losing ground. You see teams intergrating. You see some teams that were winners in the past ---breaking up. For you old heads, the kids that appear to be seperating themselves from the fray at this early stage, do they continue or is it a mix, where some of the others catch up. Give us your thoughts on this, if you have been doing this for some time now. Let me make the question simple. Do the studs stay the studs or do they dissapear? What age can you really see that talent?
As the father of a rising 14YO I can tell you that there is no way to tell. Some of the studs at 10 still are and will be until at least JV. Some of the best players from 10 and 11 that I remember aren't even playing anymore. Some that were non-factors at that age have grown and worked hard and are now studs. Most, of course, are average and the ones that are the hardest workers are seeing some benefit.
I will say that I could probably name 10 players to whom the game came really easy at 10, 11, 12 and didn't develop the work ethic that they will ultimately need and paid the price in their 13YO seasons. Less "talented" players have passed them, especially in their understanding of the little things it takes to succeed in baseball.
Each year baseball intelligence and mental toughness become more important.
As Yogi said, "90% of the game is half mental." As highcheese says, take a kid to the park and have a blast.
I would like to add, don't let the kid whose testosterone engine has not come on line get down on himself as he slides from stud to bench. If the current team can let him get away, find a team where he can play more to keep his spirits up, and let him have his fun... |
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Thoughts as the season winds down
