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Shut Out
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 Posted - 06/02/2009 : 16:09:29
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| Overall most of the umpires in GA just like the level of play is fantastic. Unfortunately, it is just like when you have one player that keeps making errors the ball always finds him. The same goes for umps as it seems it is the same umps time and time again. You know the ones; the umps that seem to have issues with rules or get a little slow on being in the right place to make a call or frankly make calls on a reaction rather than taking a second to absorb what he just saw then make the right call. |
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tater77bug
133 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2009 : 16:44:41
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| Again you are right on....I see a ton of travel coaches that just have no idea what the rules are...the "balk" is the king of confusion for many coaches...as a coach it is my job to prepare my team...as an umpire it is your job to get the call right...again where I get frustrated on my side is the umpire that is not prepared...but I guess you can't stand the coach that is a know it all...LOL...so the world turns...good thread Blue |
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triple7
20 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2009 : 22:04:44
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Umpires in georgia....
I really give you all a high five...I couldn't do what you do on a weekend. I did see something this past weekend in the USTBA state. Some very bad calls by the umpires their. One umpire even took he's mask, hat, and shirt off and started telling the parents to come do the job if they can do it beter. When you are getting pitched at and the batter swings and the umpire still calls it a Ball. I guess what some of these parents are saying their is 2 of you ask for help if you need it... I think some of the championship games need to have at least 3 at the age of 12u and UP... |
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michaelp
20 Posts |
Posted - 02/19/2010 : 12:47:01
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Originally posted by Storm Baseball
Had a situation at the Mazzone tournament this weekend where our runner heading home went around the catcher because he was 4-6 feet up the line. The umpire called him out for going out of the basepath to avoid contact. When I challenged, he said that he was more than three feet out of the path and "if I didn't believe him, to go get a ruler". ????? Never fails...if i tell him how i really feel, he will umpire the rest of our games. If I don't say anything, I will never see him again!! 
It is amazing how some of these umpires have what I call the "God Syndrome". They have to make a spectacle of themselves and be the center of attention.
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michaelp
20 Posts |
Posted - 02/19/2010 : 12:51:25
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| I had the plate for that game. If the catcher has the ball waiting on a runner the runner has two options give himself up or turn around. Your runner was out by a good bit if I do not call running out of the base line I would have been wrong. As I recall you won this game via run rule. You are correct I should not have said get a ruler. The call was correct just bad customer service on explaining the call. |
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AA17Dad
211 Posts |
Posted - 02/19/2010 : 16:06:57
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| Did the Catcher have the ball when the runner went around him? |
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Jacked-up
59 Posts |
Posted - 02/19/2010 : 17:01:57
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Originally posted by michaelp
I had the plate for that game. If the catcher has the ball waiting on a runner the runner has two options give himself up or turn around. Your runner was out by a good bit if I do not call running out of the base line I would have been wrong. As I recall you won this game via run rule. You are correct I should not have said get a ruler. The call was correct just bad customer service on explaining the call.
Mr Ump. A runner has more options than you state when approaching a base and the fielder has the ball, not to give up or just turn around.
1. If fielder on knees, fake low and jump over the fielder (done it)
2. Hook slide
3. head first slide around fielder and reach back and touch base
4. Aggressive slide through fielders legs - hoping he drops the ball
I teach my son to never be a dead out - ever.
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ljames
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Posted - 02/20/2010 : 20:45:39
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Originally posted by Jacked-up
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Originally posted by michaelp
I had the plate for that game. If the catcher has the ball waiting on a runner the runner has two options give himself up or turn around. Your runner was out by a good bit if I do not call running out of the base line I would have been wrong. As I recall you won this game via run rule. You are correct I should not have said get a ruler. The call was correct just bad customer service on explaining the call.
Mr Ump. A runner has more options than you state when approaching a base and the fielder has the ball, not to give up or just turn around.
1. If fielder on knees, fake low and jump over the fielder (done it)
2. Hook slide
3. head first slide around fielder and reach back and touch base
4. Aggressive slide through fielders legs - hoping he drops the ball
I teach my son to never be a dead out - ever.
FYI...
A lot of travel ball associations have a rule stating that whenever a tag play is evident with a fielder or catcher that the runner must avoid contact. Jumping over the player is not considered seeking to avoid contact and in some cases the runner could be ejected.
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Jacked-up
59 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2010 : 21:54:55
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| We live in a 3D world...How is that not avoiding a tag? I pity the ump to make that call. |
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Alter-Ego
802 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2010 : 23:09:14
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ijames,
If a player leaves his feet, in an effort to jump over a player trying to avoid a tag, particularly at 13U and above, it is supposed to be an automatic ejection. You cannot leave you feet to avoid a tag because spikes get considered a potential weapon and has liability implications.
If you had this happen, and the player was not ejected, count yourself lucky. |
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LeftyBat
160 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2010 : 02:05:28
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| If my son jumps over the tag and gets the base and the ump throws him out, fine by me. He did it once last year in a play at home, and the ump did not throw him out. |
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michaelp
20 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2010 : 19:57:20
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The catcher had the ball waiting on the runner. A good hard slide between the legs in hopes of the fielder dropping the ball is an option I did leave out.
Jumping, hurdling, and leaping are all legal attempts to avoid a fielder as long as the fielder is lying on the ground. Diving over a fielder is illegal. 8-4 ART.2 |
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