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Cherokeeplayer

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Posted - 09/28/2015 :  11:45:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Crazyforbball

It's pretty cut and dry I think.. if they say they will call and don't within a couple of days, (if you didn't already receive an on the spot offer), then it's a pretty safe bet your boy didn't make the cut, esp. if it's one of the "better" teams. What they should probably say is IF you make the team you will hear back from us in a certain amount of days then no one is left hanging if the call doesn't come through and the coach is not obligated to make 30 "no" calls. But remember, it's not always that your kid isn't "good enough" .. it may just be that the team is already stacked with the type of player he is (i.e. infielders) and it's the OF, catcher, etc. they are looking to fill. Unless you or your player are very specific for example that your 2B is eager and willing to take RF to be on the team.



I hear what you are saying Crazyforbball, but that advice didn't work for us either. I had my son try out for one of the high teams, just to see. The coach said he'd be in touch, he didn't call or email. I texted him after a week and asked if my son was still under consideration and the coach said that he was but they were trying to keep the tryouts small and it was taking a long time to get through all the kids and they would be in touch on Monday. This sounded reasonable, I thanked him for replying to the text and told him I would be happy to bring my boy back out for another look if he wanted. Never heard from the man again, like I said, what is with all the non-contact?
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turntwo

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Posted - 09/28/2015 :  18:35:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Since a majority of us parents wear rose colored glasses when it comes to our kids and their ability I for one would like to know why my son didn't make a team. The main reason is so my son knew what to work on.

<edit: we would work on things and try again>

I wouldn't let what a coach said about my son's ability "piss me off". If he couldn't see my son's value then too bad for him. We have already run across a team my son tried out for that never got back to us and the coach expression let me know that he knew he had let a good one go. What's the point in being ticked, it's their loss, not yours.



Was this meant to be full of irony?

You admit to parents having "rose colored glasses" and just want to know why. Yes, very reasonable, and even commendable, that you'd want to work with him to get him better... BUT, then you end your comment, with what sounds like venom... "I wouldn't let what the coach said piss me off" <YET> "If he couldn't see my son's value then too bad for him." Him who? Too bad for coach? Too bad for your son? IF coach, then that sounds like nothing more than sour grapes. I mean, you say, don't get pissed, but you sound pissed with your statement. Is it REALLY the 'coach's loss' if your son doesn't fit his need, or that he isn't at the caliber of the rest (re: your rose colored glasses comment)?

I agree, don't get worked up. There have been THOUSANDS of posts about 'what level' my son should play (Major, AAA, AA, etc). If your son doesn't make a Major team, oh well, don't get pissed, don't have sour grapes, go find another Major, or AAA team. Besides, wouldn't you want to make the Major and have limited playing time? Or a AAA team where you rarely sit?

Back on topic, some are either: 1- cowards (who don't want to be the bearer of bad news), and/or 2- inconsiderate.
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Crazyforbball

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Posted - 09/28/2015 :  18:49:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Are you talking about high school ball or a high school age travel ball? If high school I don't have any advice there.. not there yet, lol! Sorry you are getting the run around like that Cherokee....I agree a simple "no thanks" or "be patient" would sum it up nicely.
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CaCO3Girl

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Posted - 09/29/2015 :  10:35:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by turntwo

quote:
Originally posted by CaCO3Girl


Since a majority of us parents wear rose colored glasses when it comes to our kids and their ability I for one would like to know why my son didn't make a team. The main reason is so my son knew what to work on.

<edit: we would work on things and try again>

I wouldn't let what a coach said about my son's ability "piss me off". If he couldn't see my son's value then too bad for him. We have already run across a team my son tried out for that never got back to us and the coach expression let me know that he knew he had let a good one go. What's the point in being ticked, it's their loss, not yours.



Was this meant to be full of irony?

You admit to parents having "rose colored glasses" and just want to know why. Yes, very reasonable, and even commendable, that you'd want to work with him to get him better... BUT, then you end your comment, with what sounds like venom... "I wouldn't let what the coach said piss me off" <YET> "If he couldn't see my son's value then too bad for him." Him who? Too bad for coach? Too bad for your son? IF coach, then that sounds like nothing more than sour grapes. I mean, you say, don't get pissed, but you sound pissed with your statement. Is it REALLY the 'coach's loss' if your son doesn't fit his need, or that he isn't at the caliber of the rest (re: your rose colored glasses comment)?

I agree, don't get worked up. There have been THOUSANDS of posts about 'what level' my son should play (Major, AAA, AA, etc). If your son doesn't make a Major team, oh well, don't get pissed, don't have sour grapes, go find another Major, or AAA team. Besides, wouldn't you want to make the Major and have limited playing time? Or a AAA team where you rarely sit?

Back on topic, some are either: 1- cowards (who don't want to be the bearer of bad news), and/or 2- inconsiderate.



Since you asked, it wasn't meant to be full of irony (if that word is applicable), but it does cover two topics that I probably should have separated better.
1. I would want a coach to tell me why my son didn't make the team so I could remove my rose colored glasses. There are far too many parents out there that think their kid is amazing at hitting/fielding/pitching/catching. The reality is usually that they are uneducated on what makes a good player and are taking facts out of context. For example, "Wow, your kid had an OBP of 0.700 last year, wow, he must be great...oh, you didn't mention that was during rec ball, in the fall, with zero travel players playing, while the coach pitched to him."....changes things a bit doesn't it people?

2.Maybe your kid didn't have his wow factor on while trying out for the team he really wanted to be on. Kids have off days, it happens, and many times we as parents don't know what a coach is looking for and shouldn't get pissed if a coach doesn't pick our kid for their team. The adult thing to do is to ask what the kid needs to work on, or simply say "thank you for your time, maybe we will see you next year." I think it's important to remember this is a YOUTH GAME, little Timmy's 9u team will have zero bearing on the rest of his life therefore parents need to chill out. Do coaches make mistakes and let good ones go, YES, every year, but if that happens it is their loss. I would tell my kid to buckle down, work on his game, and try again next year. I would not tell him the coach is an idiot or make up a random comment about that coach not liking people who weren't rich, or tell my kid he didn't make the team because the coaches kid plays his primary position. I would tell my kid to work harder, I would not give him excuses.


A coach I know told me this story. A 12 year old who had just finished a spectacular 12u season on a AA/AAA team decided to skip over AAA and go for 13u Major. His biggest asset was his bat, but it didn't impress the 13u coach. Thankfully this coach was a decent guy and he gave it to the parent straight. He said something like "Your kid does hit bombs, but he doesn't do it through proper mechanics, he does it through brute arm force without using the lower half of his body, and what were over the fence in 12u will be in the left fielders glove at 13u. I am looking for Major players, not projects. I see his potential, but he's not at this level yet." The parent got BEYOND livid and he actually took a swing at the coach. Needless to say his kid didn't make it far and funny enough lost interest in baseball and took up football.
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