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dblinkh1
39 Posts |
 Posted - 10/11/2008 : 07:52:26
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I know there are very few legal "trick" plays in baseball but I love the 3rd to 1st pick off move with runners on the corners. When it works it is a real momentum swinger.
Not really a trick play but when my brother was a catcher he liked to let the ball hit the heel of his mitt and the ball would go straight down and he would jump up and act like he couldn't find the ball. As soon as runner took off he would throw them out.
Anyone else have a favorite? |
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greglomax
1031 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2008 : 11:25:33
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I have to credit Scott Pederson with telling me this one, but I have always loved envisioning it:
Runner on first. Once the pitcher comes set and the runner takes his lead, the second baseman comes running in toward home yelling "bunt" and does and frontwards roll in the infield. As he does this, the pitcher steps off and picks the runner off who can't help but watch the second baseman.
When I see this in my mind, I can't help but laugh. |
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13U ECB Stallions
22 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2008 : 12:58:59
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Thanks a lot Lomax!!! We were going to use that one on the Astros this year!! Back to the drawing board. |
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greglomax
1031 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2008 : 16:11:38
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| It was wayyy too funny to let go. |
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coachdan06
433 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2008 : 16:56:18
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Originally posted by greglomax
I have to credit Scott Pederson with telling me this one, but I have always loved envisioning it:
Runner on first. Once the pitcher comes set and the runner takes his lead, the second baseman comes running in toward home yelling "bunt" and does and frontwards roll in the infield. As he does this, the pitcher steps off and picks the runner off who can't help but watch the second baseman.
When I see this in my mind, I can't help but laugh.
I think it would work on Lonnie Smith  |
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scottwill311
52 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2008 : 19:24:21
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| Witnessed this play performed twice by a former Cobb County high school coach.Situation is runners on 2nd and 3rd.(keep in mind a 2 umpire crew).Runner on 2nd takes off on the pitch,batter bunts down 1st baseline,runner advances from 3rd to home.Home plate umpire is focused on the runner from 3rd and umpire in field is making the call at 1st.The runner from 2nd continues to the plate without touching 3rd base and scores behind the runner on 3rd.The runner on 2nd base basically cuts the corner to score.Neither umpire is focused on the runner from 2nd touching 3rd, so an appeal does no good,run scores! |
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ECB Mom
14 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2008 : 09:34:42
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| scott---that one does work well! Sliding into home plate helps keep the umpires attention a little longer! |
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BREAMKING
323 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2008 : 10:06:52
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| I have witnessed that play also with the two man umpire crew. Me and my brothers still talk about it to this day. The other teams fans used to get so mad. It was just a fun play and worked every time we ran it. I wonder if Coach C still uses that. |
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toprank
138 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2008 : 11:47:12
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| Our 2nd baseman in JUCO did this. He is batting, Man on 2nd and 3rd, we are behind by 1 run. While the pitcher is in his windup our batter looks back at the umpire and yells time in a deep voice and the pitcher balks. They move the runners and we end up winning the game. Next game he does it again and the umpire throws him out of the game. Needless to say he never did it again and I wouldn't try it or teach it. |
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wildcats9596
110 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2008 : 12:42:43
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At what point does it cross over from a trick play to cheating?
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WJrWolverines
53 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2008 : 13:17:09
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| Wow, great stuff. Let's show our players how to bend the rules (some would say cheat) to win a game. This isn't baseball. I noticed ScottWill said "former" Cobb Co. coach. Is it any wonder? |
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gdad
40 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2008 : 13:51:26
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| your trick plays are fine,glad to know that there are coaches teaching acting than baseball,i want to say i beat a team with my pitching and hitting ,rather than to say we won with a trick play.maybe we will have some good actors soon to come. |
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C. MORTON
1051 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2008 : 16:47:45
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Here's one that was used ON us and whe then USED it in many games and it worked everytime.
Bases loaded and the runner on first takes off like he is stealing 2nd base once the pitchers throws to the batter. The third base coach yells BACK, BACK, and the crowd usually chimes in.... The catcher throws the ball to first and the runner on third goes home and the other move to second and first. The runner on first never goes back to first and is safe. If you are lucky and get a wild throw to first you may get another run...... |
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dblinkh1
39 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2008 : 17:42:41
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| True trick plays rely on surprise, distraction and lack of concentration on someones part. It is not a trick play if it breaks the rules. |
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ECB Mom
14 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2008 : 20:35:58
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| I just want to say 'RELAX' to the 'anti' people. These are a few plays that teams have done over the years. They are by no means done in every game, every season. I bet you can ask any of these people and they would also say that they have won their games with pitching and hitting, but ONE time they did the above mentioned play. |
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bstand
56 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2008 : 21:27:20
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| Let's see..... How many collegiate or professional games have we seen these "trick" plays in? I don't recall any. I think that is because conventional wisdom dictates that you need to focus the valuable time that you do have instructing players' proper fundamentals, mechanics, and situational baseball, which they will use frequently while on the diamond, as opposed to wasting any time on "trick" plays, that you may use once per game if that, and it borders on questionable ethics. I could almost guarantee that the coaches who teach this and the players who follow them, care more about the name on the back of the jersey than the name on the front. |
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TAZ980002
831 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2008 : 21:37:45
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The 6-4-3 Cougars have pulled this one at a few tournaments I have seen:
A runner occupies 2nd base. The pitcher turns and throws to 2B but overthrows into CF. The center fielder backs up the play and gets the ball back in to hold the runner at 2B. When the pitcher gets the ball back he turns and fake throws to 2B. The defender covering the fake throw pretends to dive after a bad throw. The 2 outfielders "backing up" the fake overthrow dive on the ground if trying to stop an overthrown ball. The pitcher is motioning to get the ball at the fence all the while the ball is still in his glove. The 2B runner takes off for 3B and gets tagged out. When I saw 6-4-3 pull this off they occupied the 3B dugout and were even yelling "run" while it was going on.
Pretty Busch League if you ask me but it works if your players have never seen it. |
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toprank
138 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2008 : 09:44:50
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bstand said "Let's see..... How many collegiate or professional games have we seen these "trick" plays in? I don't recall any."
I can recall a few as anyone who watched the college world series can also.
How about the first baseman that pretended to miss a pickoff move but picked the ball from the dirt, takes off running to right field the runner on first base takes off to second and the first baseman throws down to second and gets him.
I saw the cardinals vs the atlanta braves have their SS fake the throw back to their pitcher (hidden ball trick) so yes they happen.
I have seen SS's yell I got it and pretend to catch a pop up around 2nd base, on a ground ball steal attempt. The runner freezes and they turn two.
I believe the guy who originally posted this thread was not trying to advocate anyone using these plays but more as entertainment and things coaches could look out for or atleast go over with. |
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bstand
56 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2008 : 09:55:43
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| When I am referring to trick plays I am not referring to players who try the hidden ball, or things that are heads-up like that. If you can catch a player sleeping, because you have your head in the game, is different than spending teaching time working on plays. However, if this is a theoretical thread based solely on entertainment value, I stand corrected and I chuckled at several of the plays suggested. |
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wildcats9596
110 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2008 : 09:58:29
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Originally posted by ECB Mom
I just want to say 'RELAX' to the 'anti' people. These are a few plays that teams have done over the years. They are by no means done in every game, every season. I bet you can ask any of these people and they would also say that they have won their games with pitching and hitting, but ONE time they did the above mentioned play.
I'm not "anti" trick plays, although if you get into grown men tricking 9-10 year-old boys, it does seem kind of cheesy.
I'm "anti" cheating, which is what one of the scenarios is. |
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greglomax
1031 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2008 : 12:25:51
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Yes Wilcat, I would agree with you. Cutting the corner knowing that you are short an umpire is cheating, whereas many of the others are the act of baiting an opponent into getting thrown out based on the perception that something else happened. The oldest and most used is the fake to 3rd, throw to 1B. That gets done so much it almost seems part of the rules. I hate it almost as much as I hate the "dive after a ball thrown to 2nd to make it look like it went to the fence." Even though I would not categorize them as cheating. They are just trying to bait the runner into getting off the base.
The more obsure ones are the funniest to talk about though. The unfortunate part is there are some other really good ones out there that no one wants to bring up in case they decide to use it. |
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trea
188 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2008 : 13:05:39
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| My favorite is what we called "The Rock". Man on 2nd and pitcher uses spin around pick off move and pretends to throw to 2nd but he keeps it. ss and 2nd dive like they missed it and cf turns and runs to the fence. fans and players yell to get the ball while pitcher still has it. runner on 2nd takes off, you tag him out. This has worked several times up to age 14 |
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BREAMKING
323 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2008 : 11:16:43
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Originally posted by WJrWolverines
Wow, great stuff. Let's show our players how to bend the rules (some would say cheat) to win a game. This isn't baseball. I noticed ScottWill said "former" Cobb Co. coach. Is it any wonder?
Just so you know Wolverine this former coach left on his on after a great run at a local high school. Playing for state championships and winning one of them. It was just a fun play to run and worked. |
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toprank
138 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2008 : 12:13:51
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| You are correct greglomax, I have one that I am dying to try, but it is almost too good not to post. I may end up posting it anyway. |
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Phattso
143 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2008 : 13:37:54
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| Was it Cadenhead? |
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WJrWolverines
53 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2008 : 15:38:37
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Originally posted by BREAMKING
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Originally posted by WJrWolverines
Wow, great stuff. Let's show our players how to bend the rules (some would say cheat) to win a game. This isn't baseball. I noticed ScottWill said "former" Cobb Co. coach. Is it any wonder?
Just so you know Wolverine this former coach left on his on after a great run at a local high school. Playing for state championships and winning one of them. It was just a fun play to run and worked.
Oh! Well O.K. then - he gets a pass. |
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