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b@s3b@11
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 Posted - 07/31/2012 : 16:10:42
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Are kids expected to go to both days of the main tryout?
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bulldogbaseball100
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Posted - 07/31/2012 : 18:52:04
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| It is up to you. Large majority of teams are already picked during private try outs. Some teams may be looking in case one kid stands out. It is well known that this is a fund raiser. Most kids who are locked in on teams don't show even though they have to pay their $100. |
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agent21
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Posted - 07/31/2012 : 22:34:42
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| curious as to how many have attended east cobb tryouts without a previous commitment from a team and been drafted? if it truly is a fundraiser (i.e., no players are drafted who do not have a pre-tryout offer from a team), why do undrafted players pony up $100 for a sham "tryout"? |
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AllStar
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Posted - 07/31/2012 : 22:36:47
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Originally posted by b@s3b@11
Are kids expected to go to both days of the main tryout?
Thanks.
I don't know what is required, but my son attended both days, was contacted by 3 teams, none of them the Astros, and played somewhere else.
He had a blast. |
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4bagger
131 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2012 : 22:42:22
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| It IS a fundraiser but there are teams with openings. Not many, but some. If you have a player with skills then you're gonna get approached. Not all teams are 100% filled with private tryouts. |
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b@s3b@11
23 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2012 : 23:02:38
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My son has had individual tryouts with several teams (several call backs too) but we were told to register for the big one. Guess we'll err in the side of caution, unsure of what the coaches expect, and show up both days.
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HITANDRUN
436 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2012 : 11:10:11
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| There will be some teams looking for players and some teams have all their players but don't expect to be on the best 2 team there unless you have already been contacted or unless your son really really stands out! |
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baseballparentof2
22 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2012 : 15:19:41
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| Is it too late to register? Can you just bring form and money on Saturday? |
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oldmanmj
191 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2012 : 17:32:58
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| YES you can but it cost $25 more now for late registration. |
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Card6
152 Posts |
Posted - 08/03/2012 : 08:37:27
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[quote]Originally posted by baseballparentof2
Is it too late to register? Can you just bring form and money on Saturday?
ECB website has all info. It is a good first time experience for a young baseball player. Other programs just as good. JCS, RBI, OTC, Alph Warriors, Canes...643 has had the big tryout. |
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jongamefan
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Posted - 08/04/2012 : 23:20:52
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Originally posted by agent21
curious as to how many have attended east cobb tryouts without a previous commitment from a team and been drafted? if it truly is a fundraiser (i.e., no players are drafted who do not have a pre-tryout offer from a team), why do undrafted players pony up $100 for a sham "tryout"?
AGENT : the short and true answer is :
many players drift into the tryouts and are selected by a team . But not a ' good team '
our understading is that the powers that be on site , are pushing the coaches to bring the players in and quick . Thats good business nuff said.
thats to say this : if you are at a high school where preferences , politics and general bad coaching has given your son a chance he may not have expected , DONT expect that at East Cobb .
the coaches have choices who to pick and the parents have choices what team to pick , not stuck with a special ed teacher who played high school baseball .
So move slowly and wisely and out there you should expect fairness.
I wish you the best
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Dr. Old School
314 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2012 : 22:53:01
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I have been through multiple tryouts as both a parent and as a coach. I have been in on many of the draft sessions at EC and typically there are only a small percentage of players that don't get picked for a team. Typically at least one team is still trying to fill spots so Guerry will usually say "Hey you still need players. Take this kid." If no one takes the kid, he usually says "Ok, explain to me why this kid is not good enough for any of the teams here so I know what to tell his parents when they call and want to know."
The key thing to going to the EC tryout or any others, without having any prior deal worked out, is you need to be able to differentiate yourself from the other players. Don't get stuck in the middle of a pack of players or you run the risk of getting looked over. I have seen players that were Major level players get looked over because they did not show themselves to the upper teams, and the lower teams didn't think they had a chance at them anyway. It's all about marketing yourself. It is hard to explain to kids but I have seen it too many times. With 150 kids at a tryout, it's hard for 10-15 coaches to see what players "Could" do which is why you have to show what you "Can" do. |
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peashooter
297 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2012 : 11:07:51
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| If a coach can't see a major player from 100 yards away they shouldn't be coaching. Now the AAA type player who maybe isn't the fastest, etc, but who loves the game and listens and applies instruction...you have to meet those kids 1 on 1. |
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bbmom2
119 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2012 : 11:17:12
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Originally posted by Dr. Old School
The key thing to going to the EC tryout or any others, without having any prior deal worked out, is you need to be able to differentiate yourself from the other players. Don't get stuck in the middle of a pack of players or you run the risk of getting looked over. I have seen players that were Major level players get looked over because they did not show themselves to the upper teams, and the lower teams didn't think they had a chance at them anyway. It's all about marketing yourself. It is hard to explain to kids but I have seen it too many times. With 150 kids at a tryout, it's hard for 10-15 coaches to see what players "Could" do which is why you have to show what you "Can" do.
Can you explain this - how do players make themselves standout when there are 150 kids on the field? I'm assuming you aren't talking about jumping up and down when they make a play or catch a ball. LOL! One would hope talent and mechanics would stand up but that is not necessarily the case. I've often wondered this - and this applies not only to the ECB tryouts but really to life... we've all seen the okay player, sales person, employee etc. get the position, job, order, etc when there were far better people. Would really like to hear your thoughts on this. Thanks! |
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4bagger
131 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2012 : 14:09:34
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I always look for mechanics at tryouts. If their running mechanics are sound then coaching should make them faster. If swing mechanics are sound then coaching should help them improve as a hitter. If fielding mechanics are sound then coaching should help them become better defenders. If pitching mechanics are sound then coaching will improve their pitching.
It's kinda hard for a kid to not stand out if he has the fundamentals and the mechanics. If a player hits alot during tryouts but his mechanics are lacking then he is probably having an unusually good day and he won't perform that well when pitchers start moving the ball on him, coming in faster and then changing speeds.
It's the intangibles I always struggled with since you can be easily fooled. Things like attitude, work ethic, coachability, parents, etc. You can only get a good read on those after working together several times during a season OR if previous coach calls you but that has been covered in another string. |
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RACGOFAR
208 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2012 : 14:32:30
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| Standout players: run on and off the field, have eyes and ears on the coach when he speaks, don't meltdown or show frustration on bad plays and bad at bats, always hustle, are fearless in any situation, pick up teammates when needed, always compete, work hard in practice, play hard to the last out, have confidence in their ability and aren't afraid to make mistakes, respect the game and their opponent, wears a complete uniform for practice and games, is always focused on the next pitch or play, are coach able because they want to always take their game to the next level, understand what a quality at bat is, thrive on pressure situations and live for them. If they have all that and talent too, then they really shine. |
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in_the_know
985 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2012 : 14:48:48
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Originally posted by bbmom2
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Originally posted by Dr. Old School
The key thing to going to the EC tryout or any others, without having any prior deal worked out, is you need to be able to differentiate yourself from the other players. Don't get stuck in the middle of a pack of players or you run the risk of getting looked over. I have seen players that were Major level players get looked over because they did not show themselves to the upper teams, and the lower teams didn't think they had a chance at them anyway. It's all about marketing yourself. It is hard to explain to kids but I have seen it too many times. With 150 kids at a tryout, it's hard for 10-15 coaches to see what players "Could" do which is why you have to show what you "Can" do.
Can you explain this - how do players make themselves standout when there are 150 kids on the field? I'm assuming you aren't talking about jumping up and down when they make a play or catch a ball. LOL! One would hope talent and mechanics would stand up but that is not necessarily the case. I've often wondered this - and this applies not only to the ECB tryouts but really to life... we've all seen the okay player, sales person, employee etc. get the position, job, order, etc when there were far better people. Would really like to hear your thoughts on this. Thanks!
Easy, he sprints when he's heading to and from his stations, not jogging with the pack. He's attentive when the coach is giving instruction, making eye contact and acknowledging through body language or verbally that he's understood, not hanging in the back row with last season's team mates, half listening. He's alert, with strong and confident body language. If he makes a mistake, his body language stays positive, no slumping shoulders and drooping head. If he boots one in his rotation, he sprints back into position and asks for another, whether it's given or not. If the coach tells him he took the wrong angle to a ball or rounding a base, he doesn't take the exact same angle during round 2.
Basically, by showing the coach that he hustles, wants to be there to play baseball, is coachable and responds to instruction, he'll stand out. Go watch some major 17u/18u tryouts. The talent and mechanics difference are nearly negligible. The intangibles and nuances are what makes one standout in that crowd. Start teaching that to these youngsters now and it will become their nature by that time (or they'll have given the game up because they really didn't love it to begin with).
If none of this works for you, go watch 3-time first rounder Domingo Ayala show you how to play catch in front of a scout.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9DeqaR4PO8 |
Edited by - in_the_know on 08/10/2012 17:06:46 |
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LilBigTown
115 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2012 : 14:51:07
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| Schedule a game with them and theres your shot! In game performance gets you looked at more serious at next year tryout. |
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Working scoreboard
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Posted - 08/10/2012 : 15:05:12
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Bbmom , after many years of travel ball and having a kid playing at the college level I can personally tell you that from about 11 yrs and up the coaches at any organization are looking for the player who's mechanics are solid. A lot of these coaches have played the game and are very aware of the kids who require more work than others therefore they will be looking at the mechanics of their game not necessarily if the make an error during the tryouts. We had a coach who said it best errors are ok if there's an effort in making the play.
So to sum it up coaches are looking for the player that they can help polish their mechanics wether its pitching or batting or fielding by this time players who want to advance need great instructors who know the proper mechanis and unfortunately it's done a lot of the time in private lessons. |
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Enine
66 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2012 : 15:25:51
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Originally posted by bbmom2
Can you explain this - how do players make themselves standout when there are 150 kids on the field? I'm assuming you aren't talking about jumping up and down when they make a play or catch a ball. LOL! One would hope talent and mechanics would stand up but that is not necessarily the case. I've often wondered this - and this applies not only to the ECB tryouts but really to life... we've all seen the okay player, sales person, employee etc. get the position, job, order, etc when there were far better people. Would really like to hear your thoughts on this. Thanks!
As is the case in the sales person, employee etc, the same applies to the player. Most of the time it is not what you know but who you know. |
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C. MORTON
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Posted - 08/10/2012 : 15:55:43
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| You ever here it's not what you know but who you know? Kinda like that. Coaches see kids play and may take notice them and get to know who the player is. Coaches know who the studs are and if they don't they find out real quick. That's why some of ECB coaches have workouts before the BIG tryout. |
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Dr. Old School
314 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2012 : 16:29:46
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The hard part about tryouts with that many kids is staying engaged. Players take their turn at a drill, then have to wait for others. There are a couple of things around that which can set you apart.
1) Don't be the last one in line to do the drills. Get toward the front of the line, pay attention, and be ready to go. This shows that you want to be there and are serious about the game.
2) Don't stand around talking to your buddies all the time and not be ready to go when it is your turn. It can get boring, especially for younger kids, but you don't want to be standing around talking every time the coaches see you.
3) Hustle in and out from breaks, and from station to station.
4) If the coaches need someone to do something extra, like take throws at a bag, or shag some balls, jump in. It shows willingness to do whatever is needed.
5) Make sure to use good fundamentals when showing your skills. Don't be slow to the play, but also don't try to over-do it and throw the ball into the stands. Show that you are a dependable resource at that position.
6) Make sure you are in the right spot for the play. If you are the cut-off man, or the back-up man, be where you are supposed to be, and hustle getting there.
If you don't want to do these things, then just Hit the ball further, field better, throw harder, and pitch better. If so, steps 1-6 don't matter.  |
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baseballcoach14u
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Posted - 08/12/2012 : 09:58:10
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Originally posted by Working scoreboard
Bbmom , after many years of travel ball and having a kid playing at the college level I can personally tell you that from about 11 yrs and up the coaches at any organization are looking for the player who's mechanics are solid. A lot of these coaches have played the game and are very aware of the kids who require more work than others therefore they will be looking at the mechanics of their game not necessarily if the make an error during the tryouts. We had a coach who said it best errors are ok if there's an effort in making the play.
So to sum it up coaches are looking for the player that they can help polish their mechanics wether its pitching or batting or fielding by this time players who want to advance need great instructors who know the proper mechanis and unfortunately it's done a lot of the time in private lessons.
However, At the even higher levels I think scouts are looking for the athletes and know they can teach them the mechanics.
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bball2000
39 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2012 : 15:45:31
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| REALLY, 11 u being scouted??? Out of all the elite games, CABA, and Orlando and Cooperstown I have yet to see one 11 year old or 12 year old that would be marked for MLB. If a kid does have the ability to be developed, he will be burned out before he is old enough for it to count if he plays on some of these teams. |
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rippit
667 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2012 : 17:06:35
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| Scouts don't "teach" anything. And neither do most coaches. Parents better be at the top of "their game" and know what a kid needs to learn and who will teach it. And have the funds to finance it. I'm just sayin'... |
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Gwinnett
791 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2012 : 20:00:04
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You got that right! Lot of great coaches but they don't work with your kid every or every other day one on one. A lot of parents think there kid will get every thing they need cause their on XYZ team. REPS, REPS, REPS. Coaches don't do ALL the work.
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Originally posted by rippit
Scouts don't "teach" anything. And neither do most coaches. Parents better be at the top of "their game" and know what a kid needs to learn and who will teach it. And have the funds to finance it. I'm just sayin'...
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