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 Opposing team coach talking to the batter on deck
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rippit

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Posted - 04/28/2012 :  21:17:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah. What's THAT guy trying to accomplish? My son said the guy was saying stuff like "watch out! That pitchers wild and might hit you!"

Jeesh. Bush league or what?!

Bob Balker

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Posted - 04/29/2012 :  13:53:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I realize your a mom, but don't think it's bush at all. He's also talking about his own teams pitcher by the looks of your post. Getting into another kids head in the on deck circle is going to take more than "watch out , that pitchers wild and might hit you". That doesnt even work @ the younger ages. Most kids are taught to not even acknowledge the other teams coaches or fans. I'm sure I'll get "ripped" back on this but just my thoughts
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loveforthegame25

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Posted - 04/29/2012 :  17:27:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Balk, thats bull! The other teams coach shouldnt say a word to a player in the on deck circle, except hows it going or good game isnt it. That is bush!
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Linedrive11

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Posted - 04/29/2012 :  20:57:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree wit loveforthegame25. Talking to another teams player is out of line. How about the other teams parents yelling out to their batters "catcher is set up inside/outside....here comes the change up, etc...after stealing signs"?
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WestCoastGuru

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Posted - 04/29/2012 :  21:37:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We experienced some very similar things this weekend.......opposing parents yelling at our pitchers that they don't throw hard and having our third baseman tell us that he hears multiple cuss words coming form the opposing dugout. My opinion is parents have ZERO business yelling or intimidating any kid on the field.....and any coach who steals signs and or tells a batter where a catcher is setup right before the pitched is delivered, severely suffers of confidence his coaching skills during the week.
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tae281

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Posted - 04/29/2012 :  21:40:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by loveforthegame25

Balk, thats bull! The other teams coach shouldnt say a word to a player in the on deck circle, except hows it going or good game isnt it. That is bush!


Why is it bad? Some of these coaches have known these kids for yrs, nothing worng with it as long as they keep it cordial.
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stevesax

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Posted - 04/30/2012 :  07:36:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with tae281, but by keeping it to a few words and cordial with a player if you know him or he has played for you before. Again, keep it short so he can concentrate on the pitcher and his prep for the at bat. If I don't know him I say nothing out of respect for him and his coaches so he can keep focused on getting ready.
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Baseball12x

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Posted - 04/30/2012 :  10:50:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Our team was recently in a game in which the coach from other team talked to both our pitchers and hitters negatively and most definitely influenced the outcome of the game. I could not believe the umpires allowed this to happen. Our coaches were feaking out as were the parents. First time, I ever saw a opposing coach use intimidation tactics like that. Unfortunate, I saw same coaches do it again this weekend thru a couple of innings before the HP Umpire got it under control. Unfortunate to say the least. I am of opinion that as long as the opposing coach is cordial and the conversation is friendly, then it is fine.
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in the dirt

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Posted - 04/30/2012 :  14:11:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rippit, was the pitcher wild? If he was then the coach should have warned your coach, if he wasn't then borderline bush league depending on age. Watched a team from out of state a couple years ago send a kid to the mound who threw hard hit the leadoff batter of a team not once but twice and then have pinpoint accuracy the restof the game. My pet peeve and on of my players are parents and coaches who call pitches and pitch location. Last week at ga/fl showdown had a parent call pitch location until he called outside where the catcher set up and threw a fast ball inside. Think parent got message.
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kaytrishjr

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Posted - 04/30/2012 :  14:33:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
rippit, that's nothing compared to what our boys had to hear in one tournament. The parents on the opposing team were the one's chattering throughout the whole game...yelling and talking trash to our pitcher when finally our pitcher broke down and had to be replaced. That was the worse thing I had ever seen and our mothers were ready to go and kick a**. Luckily, we replaced him with the right pitcher, who could handle the noise and we ended up beating them anyways.

It's sad, but we had to teach our son how to handle all of the trash talking he's going to hear while he's playing, especially when on the mound. It's a mental game and the kids have to learn how to handle it at a young age, even though we are talking about grown ups.
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RACGOFAR

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Posted - 04/30/2012 :  15:44:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with Tae. There is a lot of familiarity with coaches and players after having played on the same teams or playing teams that face off year after year. There is also a lot more collegiality between players/coaches going on during the game than most parents or spectators realize.

Coaches who yell or try to intimidate opposing players are generally, well, not very good coaches. Parents who do it are, well, not very good role models for youth athletes. But its good prep for High School. You hear some amazingly lewd (and often funny) things come out of the other dugout and from the opposing team's student section during HS games. Not saying its right or wrong, but it happens and you will need thick skin and deaf ears on occasion to play HS ball.

I used to get real angry when I saw this silly adult conduct at a youth bb game, but over the last ten years I've become a lot more pragmatic about it because it provides opportunities for players to grow. If you've discussed this scenario with players and talked to them about how deal with it, they will then just find it amusing when it happens or it will motivate them to step up their game.
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gamefanatic

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Posted - 05/01/2012 :  08:11:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just asked my 14 year old what he would do... his response? "Hope it doesn't hurt too much but now I'm on base and they can't defend that!" All in perspective.

I've seen our coach talk to players on deck but it's always positive and teasing. "when you get that hit, be good to us!" type of thing. He also knows a good many, having been in the system for years.
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