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rippit
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 Posted - 04/09/2012 : 21:02:53
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Ok. New topic!!!
I've always been annoyed with kids who act cocky. The showboats. The ones who have actions that scream " IN YOUR FACE".
Well, lately, I want to jump over the fence and the 50' net to strangle my own son.
Stop holding that bat out there like you are some sort of samurai warrior and get your butt back within diving distance of the base!! Jeesh.
Is anybody else embarrassed bc your kid is acting like a Richard or is it just me bc I'm female? Lol. |
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Mad1
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 22:39:43
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Its just you. LOL....
They all do it every once in a while. A couple of weeks ago we had one step up to the plate in the Championship game and point to the center field fence with his bat. I about fell out of the stands. He then promptly hit the ball off the right centerfield fence right under the yellow top strap for a triple, knocking in two go ahead runs in what was a tie game. They can do some wild things sometimes, and make you wonder where did that come from?
I have learned through listening though, sometimes its the kids themselves that are putting the ideas in each others heads. We have a close group that really pay attention to the game, but sometimes that will turn out like-- " Hey See how he's not checking the runner but once, I bet you could get to second before he throws over". Gotta watch em. |
Edited by - Mad1 on 04/09/2012 23:08:42 |
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excoach12
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Posted - 04/10/2012 : 11:22:59
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How about kids who have a mouth like a sailor and then act like Eddie Haskell when around their parents and coaches?
One team I will not name because Stan won't let you, were saying terrible things and swearing at our players when we were running the bases. We mentioned it to the coach and he said he didn't believe it because his kids always acted perfectly fine and never used "bad" words.
No biggie, just the culture in some teams. |
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Nole27
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Posted - 04/10/2012 : 15:18:27
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Played a team a couple of years ago, and I could have sworn we were playing the original Bad News Bears. Not from a performance standpoint mind you, but because of one kids manners, or lack there of. The kid physically looked like Tanner from the movie and had a similar attitude and mouth to go with it. It was great to win the game, but was worth it, win or lose, on comedic value alone. Cussing at a player on our team, yelling at his coach/dad when he came to pull him from the mound, then telling the mom to shut her hole when she came to the dugout and dressed him down for embarrasing himself. The only thing missing from said game was Buttermaker and a six pack. |
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ramman999
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Posted - 04/10/2012 : 16:03:46
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Seriously though, while there can be a fine line between confident and arrogant, when you see how some of the parents act at the fall fields or listen to them brag on their kids, it's no surprise kids these days have ego's the size of pros - we raised a generation of trophy kids that are constantly being told how great and "special" they are - is it their fault for believing it?
We stopped celebrating humility when ESPN arrived on the scene.. before that, our parents beat it into us :) |
Edited by - ramman999 on 04/10/2012 18:34:14 |
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2playersmom
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 08:50:40
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quote:
Originally posted by excoach12
No biggie, just the culture in some teams.
Yeah thats it because too many "coaches" let the kiddos act just how they want just so long as theyre playing well. Same thing goes for the parents of the kiddos acting out
What that means exactly is its all about the coach and parents egos and not about teaching humility and respect.
SAD and not a good prediction of the kids future - and NO they dont "all do it once in a while " fortunately most coaches and parents dont allow it to happen the first time ! |
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Mad1
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 11:01:02
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2playersmom,
Where i agree that it is the culture of some teams, it is not the culture of ours. We have a well disciplined, well coached team that instills the right values in the players. What I described above was totally out of character for that player and the team, has never happened before and is not tolerated. Believe me, it was addressed by the coaches and parents and will never happen again, we hope, but to say that good coaches and parents would not Allow it to happen the first time is not right. You can say theres no way he will get away with it, but you cant say it will never happen, only that it's not accepted or tolerated. We never thought it would happen either, but it did. |
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ramman999
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 11:41:21
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Funny thing, My wife just told me about an incident at school yesterday I felt compelled to share, since we are talking about attitudes, although this isn't being cocky -
First of all, my son has always been ultra-competitive, regardless of the game/event. Not a rub it in your face kind of way, but a takes losses hard sort of way - he takes it to heart is driven this way, and wears his emotion on his sleeve.
Anyway, they were doing a middle school competition among grade levels throughout the school - he is in 6th grade and their competition was free throws, in the spirit of the NCAA tournament - 64 kids total started, 30 second rounds, most shots made move on... He made it all the way to yesterdays finals, knocking off several kids that were much better players than him along the way. In reality, he probably should not have made it there and was playing with house money, but he did. Going up against the favorite to win the whole thing, he battled - shot for shot, one ahead, one behind, back and forth.. In the end, 1 minute round, he lost 13-12.
He took it very hard - head down, not really acknowledging people who told him how well he did, just stuck in that moment. Not throwing a temper tantrum, but obvious enough to anyone that he was upset. I wasn't there, I didn't see it first hand, but knowing him, I can speculate.
Curious what you would consider it..
Is it admirable for caring and having heart?
wrong and considered being a poor sport?
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in_the_know
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 14:08:59
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quote:
Originally posted by ramman999
Curious what you would consider it..
Is it admirable for caring and having heart?
wrong and considered being a poor sport?
Great that he's competitive. Great that he plays with heart and emotion. That said, if he plays "in a funk" as a result of an error, bad play, loss, etc., to the extent that he carries it with him and it negatively affects his ability to perform for the next play or game, then you have a problem. Likewise if he sulks and it negatively impacts his teammates. If he doesn't own it by giving credit to his victor but would rather blame someone or something for the shortcoming, it's a problem. Not saying that this describes your kid, but if that's the result of the type of behavior exhibited, IMHO, that's when you've crossed the line from admirable to poor sport |
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rippit
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 14:10:54
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Ram: my son is the same way...I totally get it. I think this type of child is usually misunderstood. I can't count the times we've been told that since "baseball is a game of failure", that maybe he should find a different sport.
Because of this, I do my best to help him keep that 70% failure rate in perspective and really celebrate the other 30%! The best days are those where the last at bat was the best coupled with a win. Praying for one of those days today!
Something tells me your son has already recovered and is thinking about next year. Miles and miles of heart... |
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Newbie BB Mom
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 15:10:41
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It is really good to hear this because my son is like this, too. He is extremely competitive and a perfectionist. This is often a big motivator. But, it makes the mental part of the game his biggest challenge. He doesn't care that you're still considered "good" in baseball if you fail two thirds of the time. He has a hard time swallowing any failure at all. Teaching him to shake it off, stay collected and set an example for the other kids on his team (many of whom are not as good as he is) has been a big focus this year.
I do think this is a sportsmanship issue. Learning how to lose gracefully (and to stay focused until you have actually lost) is as important as learning how to win gracefully. I also think it is a maturity issue that we have to keep working on with him. |
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field6
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 15:48:58
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| The older the kids get it will change if they show boat. A fast ball in the ribs is on the menu if it continues to happen. Take it from someone who has kids 12-18. It's a shhhh don't tell anyone part of the game that still happens. Don't be a show boat. The best players are the ones who just do their thing and keep quiet. They know they are good and everyone playing against them knows they are good. The show boats I promise will be the ones taking one in the ribs. |
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ramman999
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 16:10:59
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oh, he's over it today, I talked to him this morning and said considering that is not even his real sport (baseball and lacrosse seem to be his priorities), that he did awesome - sometimes logic doesn't work. Will be interesting to see how he adapts once school ends, moves here and officially becomes a Georgia athlete :)
Besides, I constantly tell him that there is a place for people that "fail" 70% of the time - in fact, we visited it last spring when he played nearby at dreams park.. |
Edited by - ramman999 on 04/11/2012 19:11:17 |
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rippit
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Posted - 04/12/2012 : 11:45:44
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Prayers answered!!
quote:
Originally posted by rippit
Ram: my son is the same way...I totally get it. I think this type of child is usually misunderstood. I can't count the times we've been told that since "baseball is a game of failure", that maybe he should find a different sport.
Because of this, I do my best to help him keep that 70% failure rate in perspective and really celebrate the other 30%! The best days are those where the last at bat was the best coupled with a win. Praying for one of those days today!
Something tells me your son has already recovered and is thinking about next year. Miles and miles of heart...
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