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Whitlow
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 Posted - 04/19/2010 : 10:25:06
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The Bandits did it among a field of 32 teams and while not currently being at 100%
That is an amazing feat. 
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baseballpapa
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Posted - 04/19/2010 : 15:42:47
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| Thanks Whitlow: Some folks say winning ugly is better than than not winning at all. I would not have bet a plug nickel on us winning after watching us play. We did not play Bandit type baseball and it took all Coach Troy had in his bag of tricks to pull this one off. Won the last 2 games without the services of our #3 hole hitter and best outfielder as this one went down with a groin type injury and could not hardly walk much less play. We were forced to put #12 on first just to catch the ball with instructions that he could not throw. Its sort of like fighting Muhammed Ali with one hand tied behind your back but give our guys a lot of credit for just showing up for the fight. |
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moss21
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Posted - 04/19/2010 : 16:31:08
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| Great job Bantits, from Kenny and the Ga. Academy. Papa you need to take care of that old ticker, that is one thing that you can't play around with. |
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ecbstix
115 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2010 : 17:38:41
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| Glad to see you on here Papa. Congrats to the Bandits, good to have you back! |
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justin case
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Posted - 04/19/2010 : 22:51:37
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papa, why do you always preface discussions with who is missing. Bottom line champions play with what they got. You always say no excuses but you always have an excuse. I personally think that playing up made you guys human. It showed your boys how to lose.
this is a mental game and when yall showed them boys that they could lose you messed up there karma. |
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ecbstars
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Posted - 04/19/2010 : 23:35:11
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| Glad to hear you passed the ultimate stress test papa and that you are OK. Great job Bandits. I can't remember how many times I have said or typed that sentence...it seems like a lot!!! |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2010 : 08:47:53
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justincase: I am assuming that you are on one of the teams that the Bandits did beat. I made no excuses and I can agree with you that you must play the hand that was dealt to you and that is exactly what we have been doing. We could do like you and play under an anoymous name and no one would know that it was us playing bad but we choose to play with what we have left and play the best we can.
We did not play bad due to injuries and you never heard it from Papa that we did. We just did not play Bandit type baseball for the whole weekend except the championship game and Papa was not the only one that saw this. We just never could get any momentum going and struggled even in winning. And again that is just the facts and you shouldn't take it as an excuse. Hands down the Colts beat us, they played better that game, they deserved to win the game and they won the game. What the Colts did was in pool play and it put us in hole but someone forgot to cover the hole with dirt and the Bandits came charging out of the hole. It was a shame that the Colts didn't advance so we didn't get an opportunity to play them again as then you could have added one more good game to the list of good games in this 32 team tournament.
I don't know what the word "karma" means and I am sure the little kids from Chickamauga and Gwinnett don't either so if we have messed that up I don't think it will be too big of a deal.
They are people that encourage the kids on this board and then there are the "haters". The haters are people that can never find anything they like and always have something negative to say about anything that is being discussed.
By the way "just in case" you wasn't around at the end which I am sure you weren't you don't make excuses when you win and if you read the Triple Crown Headlines for the 11 year old division. It says that the "BANDITS WIN THE TRIPLE CROWN BACK TO SCHOOL BASH" |
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waldo
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Posted - 04/20/2010 : 08:48:43
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| Kudos to the East Cobb Colts!! You did what no other Ga team could do and only a couple other teams in the country could do. 7-5!! Way to go guys!! To me that's more impressive than the Bandits winning another tournament. |
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B2BASEBALL
25 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2010 : 09:00:58
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| Congrats to the Bandits! |
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BREAMKING
323 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2010 : 10:27:08
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| I think it is good to lose a game every now and then it builds some character and shows your playing the right competition. I know Papa is very proud of the boys for coming through like they did when they were off a little. This team just keeps on amazing me they got a huge bullseye on them and get everybodys best even in pool play which is only making them better. I think having a team like the Bandits in our age group has helped all the other teams step up there game also. So congrats to the bandits and the Ecb Colts. This was the best tournament of the year almost every team you could want was there minus maybe only a couple that should have joined. |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2010 : 11:05:56
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waldo is right and the Colts deserve all the credit in the world. But listen to where this came from when I say that this should not be considered a upset. A upset is when the other team should not have a chance to win. Over the past 3 years the most impressive thing that I noticed about the Bandits was that always seemed to win the close games and by the way there were a lot of them but even we knew that we could not keep that up as the game of baseball won't allow it. If you are coming to the tournament with your sights set on one team or one game then you will never win the entire tournament. I guess its all in what you are trying to accomplish.
I don't want this forum to begin to believe that I would take anything away from the Colt's win over the Bandits. The Coach and 2 of the kids on the Colts were coached by Papa in Dizzy Dean and I have no doubt they were a huge part in the win. (Ha Ha). I have been preaching for 3 years that because of the way Georgia teams are built that any major team can and will at some point beat the top teams.
Guys, The reason we keep coming to the tournaments is because we believe that we can win the tournament. If you feel like you can't win then you should go somewhere else. The Bandits are not invincible or undefeatable, they are the same as you guys, 11 year olds looking to have a good time.
Good job Colts and rest assurred that the Bandits will put you on their I owe you one list. |
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TAZ980002
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Posted - 04/20/2010 : 11:47:09
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Originally posted by waldo
Kudos to the East Cobb Colts!! You did what no other Ga team could do and only a couple other teams in the country could do. 7-5!! Way to go guys!! To me that's more impressive than the Bandits winning another tournament.
waldo, I will have to respectfully disagree with this one.
I agree that the Colts deserve full credit for winning the game. They did what they needed to and came out on top.
As for being more impressive than successfully navigating and winning a 32 team tournament, I don't think so. Our boys won this tournament despite: 1-not having our best pitcher and fielder, 2-having lost a pool game which meant a low seed plus we played as the visitor all day, 3-beating the #1 ranked team in GA in the finals and holding them to 1 run (on a passed ball at that). There is no way that winning one pool game is more impressive. |
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stinger
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Posted - 04/21/2010 : 10:58:05
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Hawk - I think you're taking Waldo's comments a little too literally. It was a surprise that the Colts beat the Bandits. It was not a surprise the Bandits won the tournament.
Having said that, I agree with you that the Bandits pulling this thing out with all of the great teams in this tournament, while not being on their game, is quite impressive. I think we also learned this weekend how important #12 is to your team. From the talent perspective, there are too many great players on your team to point out one kid. But my guess is that there is a leadership quality that cannot be underestimated, especially when facing adversity (or 35 mph pitches). At least that's my interpretation of things from outside the fence.
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Originally posted by Bandit_Hawk
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Originally posted by waldo
Kudos to the East Cobb Colts!! You did what no other Ga team could do and only a couple other teams in the country could do. 7-5!! Way to go guys!! To me that's more impressive than the Bandits winning another tournament.
waldo, I will have to respectfully disagree with this one.
I agree that the Colts deserve full credit for winning the game. They did what they needed to and came out on top.
As for being more impressive than successfully navigating and winning a 32 team tournament, I don't think so. Our boys won this tournament despite: 1-not having our best pitcher and fielder, 2-having lost a pool game which meant a low seed plus we played as the visitor all day, 3-beating the #1 ranked team in GA in the finals and holding them to 1 run (on a passed ball at that). There is no way that winning one pool game is more impressive.
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TAZ980002
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Posted - 04/21/2010 : 11:49:12
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| stinger, you're probably right. Maybe he meant that it was a bigger accomplishment for the Colts to beat the Bandits than it was for the Bandits to win the tournament. Either way, both teams should be proud of their play during this tournament. |
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mrbama31
252 Posts |
Posted - 04/21/2010 : 12:11:17
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Hawk,
Unfortunately/Fortunately... however u want to look at..the Bandits ability to win small, large, or anywhere in between size tournaments is old news. That is a testament to your teams abilities and hard work...but it is still old news...Now them getting beat by another Georgia team..thats BIG NEWS...Over the past 2 1/2 years..How many times has a Georgia team beat you?
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Shut Out
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Posted - 04/21/2010 : 14:02:19
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Originally posted by mrbama31
Hawk,
Unfortunately/Fortunately... however u want to look at..the Bandits ability to win small, large, or anywhere in between size tournaments is old news. That is a testament to your teams abilities and hard work...but it is still old news...Now them getting beat by another Georgia team..thats BIG NEWS...Over the past 2 1/2 years..How many times has a Georgia team beat you?
I my memory serves me correctly the only GA teams to beat them in the last 3 years were both in 9U (2008).
Kennesaw in a 30 minute game in Super NIT
643 Cougars in the TC March Mayhem |
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baseballpapa
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Posted - 04/21/2010 : 15:28:04
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ShutOut: You are correct in that the Bandits did not lose to a Georgia Team our entire 10 year old year losing only 2 games that year one to Mizuno Glory and one to San Diego, California. That's pretty impressive in itself. You all know how much Papa loves his Bandits but I don't think that this will be the last game we lose to Georgia teams this year and had to have a lot of pure luck to win the Triple Crown. What a lot of people don't know is that we were down twice in the brackets in the last inning and pulled out the win. Georgia is a tough place to play baseball and a different kind of place to play baseball. In Florida you only worry about one or two teams, same with Texas, same with California but in Georgia the teams are built differently and the talent is more evenly distributed. If the Bandits took 3 to 4 of the best players from these teams we would wax anybody we played but that is not Georgia Baseball until they get a little older.
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TAZ980002
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Posted - 04/21/2010 : 16:12:43
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Originally posted by mrbama31
Hawk,
Unfortunately/Fortunately... however u want to look at..the Bandits ability to win small, large, or anywhere in between size tournaments is old news. That is a testament to your teams abilities and hard work...but it is still old news...Now them getting beat by another Georgia team..thats BIG NEWS...Over the past 2 1/2 years..How many times has a Georgia team beat you?
From my perspective, it was just a matter of time before it happened. There are too many good players and teams in GA for it not to happen.
I don't think the Colts are necessarily better than any of the other GA teams that are capable of beating the Bandits, the stars just lined up the right way last Saturday. A lot of credit needs to be given to the coaches and players of the Colts though. We don't see that kind of pitcher very often and we struggled to make solid contact when we hit the ball. And, most of the time, the Colts made the plays they had to.
I won't make any excuses for our play either. Could we have played better? We have before but we didn't against them.
I, personally, was very impressed with the poise and character shown by the Colts' players. They were ready for the battle and they battled hard. My hat is off to them. We are looking forward to the next game with them. |
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Yankeeclipper
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Posted - 04/21/2010 : 18:52:29
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Stixx Baseball also beat them at age 10 (Fall season)
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Originally posted by Shut Out
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Originally posted by mrbama31
Hawk,
Unfortunately/Fortunately... however u want to look at..the Bandits ability to win small, large, or anywhere in between size tournaments is old news. That is a testament to your teams abilities and hard work...but it is still old news...Now them getting beat by another Georgia team..thats BIG NEWS...Over the past 2 1/2 years..How many times has a Georgia team beat you?
I my memory serves me correctly the only GA teams to beat them in the last 3 years were both in 9U (2008).
Kennesaw in a 30 minute game in Super NIT
643 Cougars in the TC March Mayhem
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Titan1
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Posted - 04/21/2010 : 18:56:18
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Stixx beat Bandits fall of 2008 at East Cobb in 10U
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Originally posted by Shut Out
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Originally posted by mrbama31
Hawk,
Unfortunately/Fortunately... however u want to look at..the Bandits ability to win small, large, or anywhere in between size tournaments is old news. That is a testament to your teams abilities and hard work...but it is still old news...Now them getting beat by another Georgia team..thats BIG NEWS...Over the past 2 1/2 years..How many times has a Georgia team beat you?
I my memory serves me correctly the only GA teams to beat them in the last 3 years were both in 9U (2008).
Kennesaw in a 30 minute game in Super NIT
643 Cougars in the TC March Mayhem
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mrbama31
252 Posts |
Posted - 04/21/2010 : 20:20:05
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| Each year it will get tougher and tougher to dominate the State due to many factors. I believe the number 1 factor is that each year the defensive skills become closer and closer between all the teams. Where as at 9 and 10 their seem to be those 2 or 3 top teams that are defensively way ahead of everyone. |
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G-Man
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Posted - 04/21/2010 : 21:45:11
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I dont know that I can agree with you on this one papa. In Florida you do have to worry about other teams and not just a few because of the talent and how spread out it is. The only difference for the most part of a team like MBA and say Sudden Impact is that MBA has more pitching but from a hitting or defensive standpoint both of those teams have solid players. This is just an example and not meant to imply anything.
Using those two same teams. Sudden Impact is not what would be considered a very strong major team here in Fla but against MBA they only lost 3-2. The one thing I have personally noticed since playing in Georgia instead of Florida is that all the Ga teams I have seen have very solid defensive teams for the most part. Some better than others but whether its majors, AAA or AA a lot of teams have good defensive players.
The one thing however I havent seen yet is that flame throwing pitcher that every team has here in Fla whether major, AAA or AA. The pitching we have seen in AAA has been slower than what we see regularly here in Florida. I also dont see players that jump around from team to team in Georgia that we do in Fla. So it looks as though teams are developed and not recruited in Ga.
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Originally posted by baseballpapa
ShutOut: You are correct in that the Bandits did not lose to a Georgia Team our entire 10 year old year losing only 2 games that year one to Mizuno Glory and one to San Diego, California. That's pretty impressive in itself. You all know how much Papa loves his Bandits but I don't think that this will be the last game we lose to Georgia teams this year and had to have a lot of pure luck to win the Triple Crown. What a lot of people don't know is that we were down twice in the brackets in the last inning and pulled out the win. Georgia is a tough place to play baseball and a different kind of place to play baseball. In Florida you only worry about one or two teams, same with Texas, same with California but in Georgia the teams are built differently and the talent is more evenly distributed. If the Bandits took 3 to 4 of the best players from these teams we would wax anybody we played but that is not Georgia Baseball until they get a little older.
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Whitlow
211 Posts |
Posted - 04/21/2010 : 23:48:33
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Originally posted by justin case
papa, why do you always preface discussions with who is missing. Bottom line champions play with what they got. You always say no excuses but you always have an excuse. I personally think that playing up made you guys human. It showed your boys how to lose.
this is a mental game and when yall showed them boys that they could lose you messed up there karma.
I originally brought up the fact that the Bandits are not 100% at the top of the post. They have not been at 100% for a while and that is why I was amazed they still won. While you can say its no excuse it does make a huge difference if you don't have some of your top pitchers not able to pitch or your top fielder not being able to play in the last game. It is a lot easier to overcome these loses in smaller field of teams, a tournament where pool play doesn't matter, or a league that doesn't limit pitchers to just 6 innings of pitching. All of these things combined is what makes it amazing. |
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Whitlow
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Posted - 04/21/2010 : 23:59:22
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Thanks Whitlow: Some folks say winning ugly is better than than not winning at all. I would not have bet a plug nickel on us winning after watching us play. We did not play Bandit type baseball and it took all Coach Troy had in his bag of tricks to pull this one off. Won the last 2 games without the services of our #3 hole hitter and best outfielder as this one went down with a groin type injury and could not hardly walk much less play. We were forced to put #12 on first just to catch the ball with instructions that he could not throw. Its sort of like fighting Muhammed Ali with one hand tied behind your back but give our guys a lot of credit for just showing up for the fight.
I hope to see you guys at the Battle of the South. If you don't make it can you send chainsaw over to help us out?  I'm just hoping we can keep the games close and not get run-ruled.  Our pool looks tough, but I guess they all do. |
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TAZ980002
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Posted - 04/22/2010 : 09:27:22
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| Whitlow, it looks like we will be seeing you in Rockwood, TN. Tell Coach Ted to take it easy on us if we meet up !! |
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baseballpapa
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Posted - 04/25/2010 : 07:26:20
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G-Man: I didn't mean to imply that Florida doesn't have as many strong teams but until someone from Georgia decides to build what I will call a "Super Team" by drawing from a much larger area instead of mostly local community type teams then we will continue to have problems with the better Florida teams. And this is not to imply anything other than the larger the area you draw from the better your team should be and I want to make it clear that I find nothing wrong with anyone putting the best team possible together. We all know that your imagination is the limit when finding ballplayers with some teams players coming from different states even.
Some day Papa hopes to see the best younger travel ball players in Georgia on one baseball team. I say younger because at around 13 years old the better players seem to be gravitating toward East Cobb and now even 643 DP Academy. There is always the exception even in the older groups and the Roadrunners and Shamrocks are examples of the exception. Georgia as well as Florida is blessed with an abundance of great baseball players. |
Edited by - baseballpapa on 04/25/2010 14:44:38 |
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