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ECBRickyB
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 Posted - 01/01/2010 : 12:38:05
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| As teams are forming their schedules for the year, just wondering who is planning on including the Super NIT. |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 01/01/2010 : 18:11:42
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| 11U Bandits were not planning on attending but we have got news that several of the top Florida teams are planning on coming so it wouldn't surprise me that we are there. One thing that I like about Triple Crown Sports is that they post a Who's Coming List as they enter the tournament. Does USSSA do this or will we just know a few days before the tournament who is coming. |
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PS Iron Pigs
129 Posts |
Posted - 01/01/2010 : 21:04:22
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| Baseballpapa................here's a link to the Atlanta NIT website where the teams that are registered will be listed. http://www.gausssabaseball.com/sa.cfm?TPID=136 The website says it will be updated weekly. |
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stinger
120 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2010 : 08:32:12
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Papa - who is playing in the Super NIT? I see that TC is drawing a strong field for that same weekend.
11 AND UNDER DIVISION:
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1. VENOM BASEBALL--MARIETTA, GA
2. SANDY PLAINS WILDCATS--MARIETTA, GA
3. EAST COBB LUCK--MARIETTA, GA
4. SHARKS BASEBALL--MARIETTA, GA
5. ACWORTH WARRIORS--ACWORTH, GA
6. EAST COBB STARS--MARIETTA, GA
7. SHARON SPRINGS SPARTANS BLUE--CUMMING, GA
8. 6-4-3 DP COUGARS--MARIETTA, GA
9. georgia jackets gold--alpharetta, ga
10. georgia jackets white--alpharetta, ga
11. alpharetta athletics--alpharetta, ga
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http://triplecrownsports.com/whoscoming.asp?results=False&sportid=1&tournyid=3846 |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2010 : 09:06:05
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Thanks, I checked the site out and only 2 10 year old teams appear to be entered. There are no 11U teams entered yet and none of the Florida teams that we heard are coming have entered officially yet. I think our answer to the first question at this point would be that we will wait to see who's coming before we decide. Of all the tournaments we played in last year this one by far the worst for traffic and fields and the loss to the Mizuno Glory didn't help.
Talking about the loss to Mizuno Glory, I want to make a wild statement. In my opinion the loss to the Mizuno Glory was the best thing that could have happened to our team last year. Although none of like losing and even I don't want to get used to it this loss gave us a purpose, set our team on a mission and seemed to focus the team on a common goal.
I also will point out that the Florida teams seem to be at their peak at this time of year and are in full stride as they continue to play baseball due to their beautiful weather and are a handful to handle. If the Bandits learned a lessson last year it was that we must be better prepared for the Florida teams. How we accomplish this preparation is much harder than saying it as it is hard to find a day before March that you can get a good practice in. We are working and will continue to work indoors in an effort to get ready.
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2010 : 12:14:12
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| Perfect post stinger for this topic. If there are that many Georgia 11U teams playing at All Tournaments Players Park, who could be playing the Super NIT. Are the Florida teams coming or not coming. 10bb can help us out with the Florida teams. I think it makes a big difference to the 11U Bandits as to who the teams entered are. |
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bmoser
1633 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2010 : 19:00:35
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Each year is different, but let's look back at what this age group did last year...
'09's ATL Super NIT had 24 teams total, of which 19 were Major teams from 5 States plus 5 AAA teams. 8 teams came from out of State.
TC's tourney had 16 total teams, and only 8 were Majors, 8 AA/AAA's. None came from out of State.
The SNIT had a much larger and stronger field, plus awarded a birth to the Elite 32 at Disney.
I suspect the Bandits and Sandtown will both return to the S-NIT, as will many out of State powerhouses. I'd guess the S-NIT will again have more teams and stronger competition. Since MBA Pride already punched their ticket to Disney, they might pass since they are supposed to be coming to the Elite Invitational in Winder, and 2 ATL trips may not be w/in their budgets.
TC offers attractive early bird discounts which is why they are showing so many teams playing that weekend already, and USSSA has 0.
The AAA S-NIT might have a tougher time drawing since their World Series births are to Kansas & Texas. I could see a lot of AAA teams playing TC and weaker Majors who don't like their 1 in 24 chances at the S-NIT against Regional opponents. Or, Major teams who have already made other World Series plans.
Having been to the Elite 32 (as a spectator), you will find no higher quality 11U event anywhere. Those who got a taste of it at 10U are obsessed with returning. Those who didn't, want to experience it. Its the who's who of youth baseball. True Cooperstown is special, but there are a lot of AA/AAA teams there...but not at Disney.
The Bandits and Sandtown play where the best teams play. They know the field conditions and traffic are crummy for everyone. They've overcome much worse.
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Titan1
210 Posts |
Posted - 01/03/2010 : 01:08:45
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Moser- The team that wins the AAA super NIT gets a bid to the World Series in KAnsas or Texas? That can't be completely accurate.
Well guess we will look somewhere else for our summer tournament if that is the case.
Looks like usssa has limited the number of post season tournaments that they are having. I guess they are going for less tournaments more teams per tournament |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 01/03/2010 : 10:27:40
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Papa agrees with Moser that the Elite 32 is one of the toughest places that any team oould ever hope to play. But there are so many distractions that the Coaches have to contend with at Disney that makes it even tougher. Then you add the heat and then you add the rain and it gets even harder. And the competition starts out tough and gets tougher every single day. The level these teams play the game will amaze you and there will always be a surprise waiting when you play these caliber teams game after game.
To win here you must start out of the gate on your best game and get better every game from there.
I forgot to mention the cost and this one factor seems to keep coming up in all team meetings across the country. Disney and Cooperstown are by far the most expensive venues to play. One of the primary missions of the Bandits is to keep the game fun for the kids and this includes off the field as well as on so how could we carry them to Disney and not let them enjoy the sites. Bandits are still looking for a Sugar Daddy sponsor. |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 01/03/2010 : 12:12:20
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| Moser is right in pointing out that the Cooperstown tournament has AA and AAA teams but he did not point out that with the 88 teams entered that at least 32 of the best teams were at Cooperstown including San Diego that won the Elite 32 and Mizuno Glory that I still consider the best team the Bandits played last year, including the Texas Nationals that Papa felt had as good a defense as we played all year and including TABU and the other great California teams. I think what Cooperstown affords in their format that the Elite 32 does not is not in Cooperstown you could get a breather and at Disney there are no breathers. |
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bmoser
1633 Posts |
Posted - 01/03/2010 : 14:44:13
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The only 2 USSSA World Series sites for 11U AAA in 2010 are in Kansas & Texas :( Same as '09! No GA (or FLA) teams went in '09, and I see the same for '10. This is why the Super NIT doesn't carry much appeal for us. Its just a more costly event with 12 teams (we don't care about points). USSSA's AAA W.S. sites/venues are NOT going to get any Georgia AAA teams around here excited. We might get more value in the Triple Crown event that weekend. S-NIT is in our backyard though, so we might play it to avoid trips across town.
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Originally posted by Titan1
Moser- The team that wins the AAA super NIT gets a bid to the World Series in KAnsas or Texas? That can't be completely accurate.
[quote]Originally posted by Titan1
Moser- The team that wins the AAA super NIT gets a bid to the World Series in KAnsas or Texas? That can't be completely accurate.
Well guess we will look somewhere else for our summer tournament if that is the case.
Looks like usssa has limited the number of post season tournaments that they are having. I guess they are going for less tournaments more teams per tournament
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bmoser
1633 Posts |
Posted - 01/03/2010 : 15:27:46
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PaPa,
8 of the top 32 highest ranked teams played at Cooperstown while 11 played the Elite 32. Sand Diego Stars and Mizuno Glory played both events. At 10U, one could argue either way, but since there is no 11U at Cooperstown, Elite 32 wins hands down. I don't even know what comes in 2nd at 11U. I'll need to research that. That is why I'm seeing the Bandits and Sandtown at the S-NIT. When you get to that level, where else are you going to go to find 11 of the top 32 teams in the County all in 1 event? I'll be disappointed if 6-4-3C don't compete too at the S-NIT. I could see 11 of last years top 32 10U's playing in the 2010 ATL S-NIT in 11U.
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Moser is right in pointing out that the Cooperstown tournament has AA and AAA teams but he did not point out that with the 88 teams entered that at least 32 of the best teams were at Cooperstown including San Diego that won the Elite 32 and Mizuno Glory that I still consider the best team the Bandits played last year, including the Texas Nationals that Papa felt had as good a defense as we played all year and including TABU and the other great California teams. I think what Cooperstown affords in their format that the Elite 32 does not is not in Cooperstown you could get a breather and at Disney there are no breathers.
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bmoser
1633 Posts |
Posted - 01/03/2010 : 17:17:16
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10BB said...There's 78 major teams from 9u to 14u in Ga. There's 288 major teams from 9u to 14u in Florida.
10BB was trying to help explain why Florida has 4 births and GA has 1, and he makes a great argument here.
In the 11u group however, Georgia has 12 Major teams listed, and North Florida has 6. GA has 1 birth, North Florida has 2 (One SNIT in Pensacola and 1 in Tallahassee). GA teams have a 4X harder go of it vs North Florida teams. So, now what?
If I was a 11U Coach of a Major team in Georgia trying to get to the Elite 32, if I didn't make it in ATL's, I'd try North Florida's 2 S-NIT's. South Florida's teams will try to qualify in Kissimmee and the one that already took place in Orlando/Disney. |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 01/03/2010 : 19:14:43
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| Even if you don't like this forum very much you have to admit that this site is a fountain of information and if you have a question that you would like to get answered then this is the place to put it to the test. |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 01/03/2010 : 21:07:30
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| I have been trying to get king of the hill on the phone to have his security police find out if my friend 10bb and Bubba are cousins. |
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bmoser
1633 Posts |
Posted - 01/03/2010 : 22:01:51
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I think the Joker has King of the Hill's line tapped, so beware!
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Originally posted by baseballpapa
I have been trying to get king of the hill on the phone to have his security police find out if my friend 10bb and Bubba are cousins.
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10 BB
264 Posts |
Posted - 01/03/2010 : 22:24:40
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| Guys Im not defending the numbers of USSSA Super NIT's in Fl. because we are comming to Atlanta also just for the competition, berth or not. I feel your frustration but truth of the matter we just want to play good baseball and for me spend time with my son. The days are numbered that we will get to spend with them traveling and playing baseball. |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2010 : 08:41:21
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I just checked the USSSA site again. I clicked baseball, teams, 11U major, and 2010 and 5 Georgia teams were listed. Does this mean that only 5 Georgia teams are listed in the 11U major division for 2010. Someone earlier posted that Georgia had 11 major teams. I don't want to spread bad information so am I correct or has my old age and minimal computing experience caught up with me.
I love the young guys that give me the link I need so I can click and get on with my business. |
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bmoser
1633 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2010 : 10:09:07
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http://www.usssa.com/sports/Rank2.asp?State=58&ClassID=50&SeasonID=14&RankSystem=2
Dont go to teams, go to rankings, 11u major 2010, usssa points
This link will show you 12 teams, then you also have to USSSA GA's site to review their re-class report to pick up a few more. I think there are 15 or 16.
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Originally posted by baseballpapa
I just checked the USSSA site again. I clicked baseball, teams, 11U major, and 2010 and 5 Georgia teams were listed. Does this mean that only 5 Georgia teams are listed in the 11U major division for 2010. Someone earlier posted that Georgia had 11 major teams. I don't want to spread bad information so am I correct or has my old age and minimal computing experience caught up with me.
I love the young guys that give me the link I need so I can click and get on with my business.
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clutch
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 12:15:35
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| on the ranking of teams in GA the east cobb colts are on it 2 times and the east cobb scorpions is listed once so it is only 10 teams and not 12 teams in the majors right now in GA |
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Titan1
210 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2010 : 12:42:54
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| When are they planning change the teams to their new classification? |
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chiefknockahoma
14 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2010 : 14:54:50
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| well it says 12 but ecb colts on there 2 times ,along with ecb scorpions who no longer exist, so go figure |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2010 : 19:20:18
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| Papa's head is reeling from all of these stats. It's all I can do to keep up with runs we score against the ones you score. These are the only numbers that truly count for Papa. moser: Papa thinks you are a genius when it comes to these number things. |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2010 : 19:23:35
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Papa talked to my good friend 10bb today for almost 20 minutes and got the answer to both of my most serious questions. Number one 10bb and Bubba of USSSA are not related and Number two he is not dating kingofthehill's sister (Not yet anyway)
We also discussed the Memorial Day tournament and both agree that the qualifier that will gives the winner a free entry fee to the invitational shows that this TD is serious about being faisr. |
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ECBRickyB
12 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2010 : 21:22:48
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| baseballpapa--if the Bandits weren't planning on playing in the Super NIT, what tournamnets are you looking at doing? Spring Frost? Slugfest? Others? |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2010 : 22:37:24
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We like the Spring Frost and have registered at the Slugfest due to the strong field of teams and we really feel blessed to be able to support the charity of the Slugfest.
As you well know at 11U there are limited places to play the really strong teams. We are keeping an eye on the Battle of the South but that one is not looking too good right now. Something we hope to get to is the Tim McGraw/Faith Hill charity sponsored tournament in Nashville. Faith and Tim spent some time with the boys last year and John Krux of ESPN was there also. It got rained out last year and we look forward to hob nobbing with the Stars and playing some baseball this year.
We also will probably hit 2-3 Super NIT's as this is where the really good competition goes. The last couple of years we have done the Georgia, Tennessee, and Alabama Super NIT's. Even if you don't plan on going to Disney you can play the best at these venues and if you do win you can pass the certificate to Disney to the 2nd place team if you don't plan on going. |
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