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bulldogbaseball100

59 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2009 :  12:25:31  Show Profile
I was watching 60 minutes the other day. They were covering youth pageants where very young children were dressed and made up to ridiculous levels - the focus of the show was more about the fanatical moms who were mostly not attractive in their youth and were living a vicarious fantasy through their kids. very entertaining show. Troubling and hilarious as various Moms bragged nonsensically about their perfect angel crafted from the finest fleetwood. Thank God there is nothing like that in youth baseball.

Edited by - bulldogbaseball100 on 12/10/2009 13:17:21
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bobo

28 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2009 :  12:33:40  Show Profile
10bb , I hate that we interrupted your thread on here ,we didnt know that it was just for you and Papa, but I feel like you should have called it something else,Like, NO ONE RESPONDS EXCEPT PAPA.WE are very proud of your BOMBERS and would have loved seeing you guys in Cooperstown last year since all the other Elite teams was there,I guess their was a bigger tourney somewhere else, It would have been great to see the nations best catcher up there . I think the Bandits have probably the best catching duo without any help from florida. Good Luck and always remember IT aint bragging unless you can back it up.Dizzy Dean
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justin case

57 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2009 :  13:19:55  Show Profile
This is crazy, we have not started the season and someone is awarding teams for what they did in the fall and 2009. And for team GA they were a fall team, most teams put very little work in the fall and you can not base anything on fall results. This is crazy. I am willing to bet you come memorial day, there will be other teams better than some in this so called elite tournament. So you know what that means, this will be just another tournament. Again you can not give this type of elite status until games are won on the fields and that goes for the bandits, bombers or whomever. I am thinking this thing is going to backfire big time. Wow giving out credit before it is earned, this really blows me away. I will say for sure there will be targets on these so called elite teams backs.
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TAZ980002

831 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2009 :  13:23:19  Show Profile
baseball37, why is you feel like you have to go down this road? Isn't there enough negativity around us without intentionally addiing this kind of nonproductive banter?
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10 BB

264 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2009 :  13:45:37  Show Profile
bobo; thanks for calling my son the best catcher in the nation because I for one think he is "one of the best catchers in the nation". To be truthful I think he is "one of the best " pitchers in the nation. I also think he is "one of the best" looking kids in the nation and "one of the best" bike riders in the nation. He is NOT "one of the best" students in the nation though.
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spock

7 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2009 :  14:43:02  Show Profile
10BB - so why didn't you just call papa? This is a discussion forum and people are supposed to chime in.

quote:
Originally posted by 10 BB

Actually this thread was a thread for me to talk to Papa about this tournament but it seems that everyone else has chimed in. It is amazing when someones team isn't looked at as the same as the Bandits.

This is the deal, it will not be played at the new beloved Signature Park, it will be played in Winder and hopefully if it is a success will be moved in years to come in Signature Park. This will be an Elite Tournament that will in the future hopefully be looked at as a destination for a year ending tournament. Be thankful that it is being played in Ga. If it were nothing but Ga. teams it would just be another tournament that is put on every weekend.

All of you are getting to worked up over this. It is an Elite Tournament that will only have 12 spots in the 11u division. The TD wants the top teams in this tournament. You ask about Team Ga. I for one saw them play at the TC Fall State and will tell you that they possess what it takes to be an elite team. They did get run ruled by the Bandits but I will say they had to face probably the top 11u pitcher in the country. Not to mention one of the top catchers in the country along with what was one of the best hitting displays I've seen in a long time.

You think the cat is out of the bag, have I named the TD or the organization. Have I told of the great things that will go along with this tournament. You guys complain about the TD's just care about the money then when a tournament is being put on to represent the top teams and that it is about giving back, here comes the complaints again.



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11baseball11

90 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2009 :  15:31:34  Show Profile
All this chest thumpin is letting us know that we've all been away from the park too long. Surely there will be a spot or two open if you can make a statement early. Come out and beat one of those teams if you think you belong there. If you can't then you just saved your team a 3 and out weekend. When you have arrived at the ELITE level, you'll know because you won't have to ask if you're there yet. Nobody knows what some of these new teams will do,it's all just a bunch of hope. By the end of March we'll know who's for real, so get to work coaches. May the best team win!!!
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bballman

1432 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2009 :  15:37:15  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by 10 BB

Actually this thread was a thread for me to talk to Papa about this tournament but it seems that everyone else has chimed in. It is amazing when someones team isn't looked at as the same as the Bandits.

This is the deal, it will not be played at the new beloved Signature Park, it will be played in Winder and hopefully if it is a success will be moved in years to come in Signature Park. This will be an Elite Tournament that will in the future hopefully be looked at as a destination for a year ending tournament. Be thankful that it is being played in Ga. If it were nothing but Ga. teams it would just be another tournament that is put on every weekend.

All of you are getting to worked up over this. It is an Elite Tournament that will only have 12 spots in the 11u division. The TD wants the top teams in this tournament. You ask about Team Ga. I for one saw them play at the TC Fall State and will tell you that they possess what it takes to be an elite team. They did get run ruled by the Bandits but I will say they had to face probably the top 11u pitcher in the country. Not to mention one of the top catchers in the country along with what was one of the best hitting displays I've seen in a long time.

You think the cat is out of the bag, have I named the TD or the organization. Have I told of the great things that will go along with this tournament. You guys complain about the TD's just care about the money then when a tournament is being put on to represent the top teams and that it is about giving back, here comes the complaints again.



Wow, I thought all the 11u teams were elite . Hope to see some of you guys in HS ball. Nice to know there is one person out there who has the knowledge to decide who the "elite" teams are at 11 years old. This sounds like some of the "chest thumping" bmoser was talking about in his Hindsight is 20/20 thread.

10BB, I would suggest that you PM papa if you want to keep things between the two of you. You can't expect to post a topic on a public message board and have it remain private. You can't expect people not to comment, especially when you are separating their kids and teams as NOT "elite" like your son and team. If you ask me, you opened yourself up for criticism when you opened this can of worms up in a public forum.
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Seminole

3 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2009 :  15:48:57  Show Profile
I want to Thank you for the invite, Without the the early invitation there would be zero chance to make it, but now Our coach maybe can work it in...... if we're considered the Elite or not, We are always looking to play the best competition available, by doing that we only make ourselves better (isnt that point of little league baseball?) Oklahoma Rays Dad #44

Edited by - Seminole on 12/10/2009 16:11:46
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mfraley

22 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2009 :  18:02:57  Show Profile
I like it, the elite 12 and you don't have to qualify, and you don't have to even play a game in 2010.

I think that it is cool for someone to set up a tournament to play baseball. But, most tournaments that use the elite status usually lay out a method to get there. The tournament's credibility is diminished because there is not an empirical process for selection. Even more absurd is to give invites to an event 6 months away, I guess based on some kind of crystal ball process. I would have to say I look forward to observing the evolution of this future elite tournament. Please share with us this tournament director that can see in the future. Papa and 10BB, I think you guys are just trying to get some excitement on this board. HAHAHA
Now at least we got something to talk about for 6 months.

Good luck and have a great season!!!!

Coach Mareio

Edited by - mfraley on 12/11/2009 09:07:12
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10 BB

264 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2009 :  21:11:24  Show Profile
I did a little homework because I thought maybe I had misjudged all the great teams in Ga. I went to the USSSA classification site and found some very good facts. It seems that there are 57AA, 15AAA and 4 major teams in the State of Ga. Two of the four are in the Tournament the Bandits for one and Sandtown Redsox the other.So Im guessing that all the complaints on this thread are from the other two teams which are the Georgia Jackets Gold and PrimeTime. Unless you are not on these two teams what is all the complaints about.

Before anyone say it yes Team Georgia is registered as AAA but they have committed to being moved to Major so no argument there.
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TAZ980002

831 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2009 :  21:51:02  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Seminole

I want to Thank you for the invite, Without the the early invitation there would be zero chance to make it, but now Our coach maybe can work it in...... if we're considered the Elite or not, We are always looking to play the best competition available, by doing that we only make ourselves better (isnt that point of little league baseball?) Oklahoma Rays Dad #44



Seminole, good to hear from you. I hope you guys can work it out. If I can help with any arrangements, let me know. I live very close to the park where it will be held. I'll even invite you guys over to swim in our neighborhood pool.

Edited by - TAZ980002 on 12/11/2009 09:08:38
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bmoser

1633 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2009 :  22:08:51  Show Profile
Besides the Express's victory over 6-4-3 at States, ANY other non-invited team who has beaten ANY invited team in USSSA play in the past 12 months, please speak up now...sound of crickets chirping...


Edited by - bmoser on 12/11/2009 09:08:47
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longhorn1

63 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2009 :  22:39:53  Show Profile
Preach it spock I am sure that I have heard the term discussion before
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blowinsmoke

61 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2009 :  09:12:54  Show Profile
Well I looked at the Oklahoma Rays Usssa ,looks like they are a legit team in spring, but This fall the 2 tourneys they played in was ,the first tourney only had 2 teams in it, and the fall state they played in only had 3 in it,and there is only 2 major teams in oklahoma

Edited by - blowinsmoke on 12/11/2009 09:33:10
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stanlewis

545 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2009 :  09:15:48  Show Profile
This discussion got over the top and I did a wholesale purge of some unmoderated posts. I let some things slip through that shouldn't have been posted, then some of the posts became personal attacks. Some posts that were probably okay were included in the purge. Please repost those and I will moderate them.

I knew this would be a strange discussion when I first saw the post and the reference to a "Vapor Tournament". Continue your discussion from this point and try to keep calm.
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tombstone

30 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2009 :  09:19:31  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by 10 BB

I did a little homework because I thought maybe I had misjudged all the great teams in Ga. I went to the USSSA classification site and found some very good facts. It seems that there are 57AA, 15AAA and 4 major teams in the State of Ga. Two of the four are in the Tournament the Bandits for one and Sandtown Redsox the other.So Im guessing that all the complaints on this thread are from the other two teams which are the Georgia Jackets Gold and PrimeTime. Unless you are not on these two teams what is all the complaints about.

Before anyone say it yes Team Georgia is registered as AAA but they have committed to being moved to Major so no argument there.





So why wouldnt Ga Jackets and Primetime be invited then.
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Seminole

3 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2009 :  09:21:19  Show Profile
no Swimming on tourament weekends :)
lol.. thank you, though

Edited by - Seminole on 12/11/2009 09:30:16
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gausssa

209 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2009 :  09:23:29  Show Profile
Hey, am i missing something on the huge event that is said to be a USSSA tourny. Let me in the bag, i will help promote it.
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blowinsmoke

61 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2009 :  09:28:08  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by bmoser

Besides the Express's victory over 6-4-3 at States, ANY other non-invited team who has beaten ANY invited team in USSSA play in the past 12 months, please speak up now...sound of crickets chirping...




Well 643 jags beat them and Scorpions beat them at state.
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baseball37

26 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2009 :  09:36:46  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by 10 BB

I did a little homework because I thought maybe I had misjudged all the great teams in Ga. I went to the USSSA classification site and found some very good facts. It seems that there are 57AA, 15AAA and 4 major teams in the State of Ga. Two of the four are in the Tournament the Bandits for one and Sandtown Redsox the other.So Im guessing that all the complaints on this thread are from the other two teams which are the Georgia Jackets Gold and PrimeTime. Unless you are not on these two teams what is all the complaints about.

Before anyone say it yes Team Georgia is registered as AAA but they have committed to being moved to Major so no argument there.

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baseballbrad

71 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2009 :  09:38:29  Show Profile

Hi Moser.
I don't think the backlash is mainly about who is invited. I for one don't think my team is an elite team. I wouldn't have expected to be invited to this event; however, would love to experience the competition.I think we are a very good local team who can compete with the big boys occasionally but not consistent enough to be considered anything other than that. So no hard feelings here. The reason most people responded the way they did is they are tired of hearing people repeatedly promote and bragg about their kids and teams in a public forum. Whatever happened to letting them just play and let other people watch and make their own assesments. That's what I do with my own son and our team. When the kid from the Bandits hit 3 home runs against us you didn't see his dad on here bragging about it. He let other people who saw it make their own comments. In the end several people mentioned what an achievement it was and the kid got his due. For anyone to think they know who the top players in the nation are at 11 yr. old is crazy. There are thousands and thousands of kids playing some for weak teams that don't get noticed.
Bradley

quote:
Originally posted by bmoser

Besides the Express's victory over 6-4-3 at States, ANY other non-invited team who has beaten ANY invited team in USSSA play in the past 12 months, please speak up now...sound of crickets chirping...



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bobo

28 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2009 :  09:39:32  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by gausssa

Hey, am i missing something on the huge event that is said to be a USSSA tourny. Let me in the bag, i will help promote it.



Mr. Smiff, I dont know if you want to jump into this ring of fire,If I was you I think I would stay in the litter box.
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coachvega

9 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2009 :  09:44:15  Show Profile
Can the Knights beisbol team Play in this phantom tourney?
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waldo

11 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2009 :  09:46:03  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by bmoser

Besides the Express's victory over 6-4-3 at States, ANY other non-invited team who has beaten ANY invited team in USSSA play in the past 12 months, please speak up now...sound of crickets chirping...




Scorpions, now the Colt .45s, beat the Cougars in USSSA state!!
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