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BravesFan
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Posted - 04/29/2012 : 20:19:46
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folks, this is why the braves are king of hill. nobody plays with as much consistency as this team does, week in and week out they are in it till the end. They don't win every game but rarely do they not reach the ship in any given tourney. |
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eastcobbkreskin
143 Posts |
Posted - 04/29/2012 : 21:50:49
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oops, make that 4 runs
quote: Originally posted by eastcobbkreskin
a well oiled machine giving up only 2 runs the whole weekend....Braves win again!
quote: Originally posted by BravesFan
Looks like the Braves are in da zone, can anyone stop them down in Savannah? Was looking forward to a Stealth/Braves match up but someone forgot to tell the Bomberz to score a run.
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swood1
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Posted - 04/29/2012 : 22:34:09
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CONGRATS TO BRAVES. We lost to Regulator team who looked nothing like their USSSA photo. Anyone know who those extra players were? |
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rbr08
40 Posts |
Posted - 04/29/2012 : 22:54:54
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The difference was not coaching, take away a few base running mistakes and TPX probably wins it.
quote: Originally posted by FLABB
Filed by KRS
Ship came down to a nail cruncher. Congrats to both teams. Braves were clutch and TPX fought galliantly. Came down to a pitching duel with he difference evidently coaching. It was as if the ECB staff knew what TPX was doing before they did.
Here is to a great well run tourney at all the age groups I covered and a great final in 12u that I was lucky enough to witness.
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bigslick
55 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2012 : 07:44:38
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quote: Originally posted by swood1
CONGRATS TO BRAVES. We lost to Regulator team who looked nothing like their USSSA photo. Anyone know who those extra players were?
Every player in the picture was there except for (3). Two no longer play on the team picture from last year and one is injured. |
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hittindeep
8 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2012 : 08:09:15
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Filed by KRS It was as if the ECB staff knew what TPX was doing before they did. Thats what being good at stealing signs will get you!!
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is it spring yet
30 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2012 : 08:18:36
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The play that ended the game and the the one where they baited the throw to second to score the winning run were the difference. Taking nothing away from the braves because thay are obviously a very solid team, but it is flattering to know they had to do that to win and it wasnt necessarily pitching hitting or fielding that was the difference. The last play I still am not sure what happened. Man at first and second 2 outs full count w/ a pretty good hitter in the box and a pretty good hitter on deck, Who knows what may have happened. Good job TPX and congrats to the Braves quote: Originally posted by rbr08
The difference was not coaching, take away a few base running mistakes and TPX probably wins it.
quote: Originally posted by FLABB
Filed by KRS
Ship came down to a nail cruncher. Congrats to both teams. Braves were clutch and TPX fought galliantly. Came down to a pitching duel with he difference evidently coaching. It was as if the ECB staff knew what TPX was doing before they did.
Here is to a great well run tourney at all the age groups I covered and a great final in 12u that I was lucky enough to witness.
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FLABB
183 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2012 : 08:32:09
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Staff trying to remain objective. With no details given out on the blog but since you mentioned it; baserunning consistency boils down to repitition and teaching which fall on the coach. There were other errors on TPX and Braves with coaching but the sum of the parts led to a victory by the Braves. Situations are learned by great coaching staffs teaching it. Not all can be covered by any coach. You see fundamental situations flubbed in the MLB. Please do not take away from this by making this topic thread descend into being negative. It was a gret ball game ~~~~KRS
quote: Originally posted by rbr08
The difference was not coaching, take away a few base running mistakes and TPX probably wins it.
quote: Originally posted by FLABB
Filed by KRS
Ship came down to a nail cruncher. Congrats to both teams. Braves were clutch and TPX fought galliantly. Came down to a pitching duel with he difference evidently coaching. It was as if the ECB staff knew what TPX was doing before they did.
Here is to a great well run tourney at all the age groups I covered and a great final in 12u that I was lucky enough to witness.
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Scott0923
49 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2012 : 08:56:53
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Go over "what if" scenarios all day....the Braves won and sometimes that's how games are won...you create opportunity and execute. Great game but quit minimizing how it was won and going over "what ifs" |
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FLABB
183 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2012 : 09:21:49
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Spring, I take it you saw the same game I did. One great factor is it did come down to pitching as these two teams are high powered hitting squads and for both teams to keep the score what it was shows that at this age great pitching is starting to come to the forefront more and more. The other part was situational execution and failure of which both sides had both.~~~KRS
quote: Originally posted by is it spring yet
The play that ended the game and the the one where they baited the throw to second to score the winning run were the difference. Taking nothing away from the braves because thay are obviously a very solid team, but it is flattering to know they had to do that to win and it wasnt necessarily pitching hitting or fielding that was the difference. The last play I still am not sure what happened. Man at first and second 2 outs full count w/ a pretty good hitter in the box and a pretty good hitter on deck, Who knows what may have happened. Good job TPX and congrats to the Braves quote: Originally posted by rbr08
The difference was not coaching, take away a few base running mistakes and TPX probably wins it.
quote: Originally posted by FLABB
Filed by KRS
Ship came down to a nail cruncher. Congrats to both teams. Braves were clutch and TPX fought galliantly. Came down to a pitching duel with he difference evidently coaching. It was as if the ECB staff knew what TPX was doing before they did.
Here is to a great well run tourney at all the age groups I covered and a great final in 12u that I was lucky enough to witness.
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peashooter
297 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2012 : 09:47:27
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A famous person once told me! "Some days you eat the bears, and other days the bears eat you!" The only what if situations I ever tell my kids is when they make mental mistakes...What if you didn't try to pick a guy off third with 2 outs late in the game? What if you didn't throw the ball home on a come backer and got the out at first instead to end the inning? What if you were ready and agressive at 3rd base so when you went on a wild pitch you were not out by 6 inches? Duck fart hits, line drives, bad bounces, bad calls, trick plays, crazy steals...That's all part of the game. Teach your kids to be aware and ready for anything. |
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BangTheBox
121 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2012 : 10:17:36
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Congrats to the Braves and TPX for making it to the championship. Jacksonville was well represented on both flights of the tourney in 12u. Does GA have some great teams and gracious parents or what? Wish the heckeling from the TPX parent(s) was not present. For the most part we let our boys leave it on the field win or lose. Did not do to bad for a legit AAA team.
Word has reached the Grounds already that the big stick is now on the perm as a TPXer. Recruiting wonders never cease. |
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moccs
349 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2012 : 11:11:44
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Got a chance to see the Braves again and a chance to play the TPX team. We were one run short against Tpx to earn a chance to play the Braves. Unfortunately , 2 hits batter and a catchers interference in one inning sealed our fate. A last inning rally came up a little short. Some breaks go your way and others don't. I think you just have to put yourself in a position to be there. If you review my earlier post on this topic you would see that I predicted that Braves were one and Tpx would be two. I also predicted that Stealth would be on the same side as the bracket as the Braves. Wow if I had only predicted that the Moccs would be in the ship !! Great tournament by Triple Crown as usual -a good run by our squad and proud to say that we hit all 11 the entire tournament(including bracket)and all 11 are on our full time roster !! |
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bigslick
55 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2012 : 11:29:23
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quote: Originally posted by moccs
Got a chance to see the Braves again and a chance to play the TPX team. We were one run short against Tpx to earn a chance to play the Braves. Unfortunately , 2 hits batter and a catchers interference in one inning sealed our fate. A last inning rally came up a little short. Some breaks go your way and others don't. I think you just have to put yourself in a position to be there. If you review my earlier post on this topic you would see that I predicted that Braves were one and Tpx would be two. I also predicted that Stealth would be on the same side as the bracket as the Braves. Wow if I had only predicted that the Moccs would be in the ship !! Great tournament by Triple Crown as usual -a good run by our squad and proud to say that we hit all 11 the entire tournament(including bracket)and all 11 are on our full time roster !!
What happened to the Stealth this weekend? 4 runs in 3 games? |
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kcndfan
80 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2012 : 11:43:09
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quote: Originally posted by moccs
Got a chance to see the Braves again and a chance to play the TPX team. We were one run short against Tpx to earn a chance to play the Braves. Unfortunately , 2 hits batter and a catchers interference in one inning sealed our fate. A last inning rally came up a little short. Some breaks go your way and others don't. I think you just have to put yourself in a position to be there. If you review my earlier post on this topic you would see that I predicted that Braves were one and Tpx would be two. I also predicted that Stealth would be on the same side as the bracket as the Braves. Wow if I had only predicted that the Moccs would be in the ship !! Great tournament by Triple Crown as usual -a good run by our squad and proud to say that we hit all 11 the entire tournament(including bracket)and all 11 are on our full time roster !!
Moccs, I applaud you for being true to your 11 players. We do it the same way and some time it costs us but all our boys bust their butts and deserve to play whether it is pool play or the Championship game. Congrats to you on a great run!! See you at Battle of the South.
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shoelessjoe
6 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2012 : 13:59:39
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KC - I agree with being loyal and using your regular players. Did the "new" TPX players have much impact during the tourney? |
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ecbbraves
113 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2012 : 16:18:25
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quote: Originally posted by GAFarmer
Surprised TPX did not pick up on that or hear it going around the park. Maybe they did at some point in the game.
quote: Originally posted by hittindeep
Filed by KRS It was as if the ECB staff knew what TPX was doing before they did. Thats what being good at stealing signs will get you!!
Our team hasn't stolen a sign in 5 seasons and didn't start this past weekend. Enough of the nonsense. It was a great game on both sides. Hats off to the kid that threw for TPX. He was outstanding. Great group of kids as well. Look forward to seeing them here at ECB in a few weeks.
Chris Ottinger 12u ECB Braves |
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moccs
349 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2012 : 17:28:58
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Definitely thought they were the best two teams in the tournament. Sorry we couldn't hang around for the final game to see how it played out. I do remember one team (think it was yankees) calling out numbers from the arm bands and every time they called a particular number they tried to pick my player off the base. After a few times even I figured it out >> Other then that I don't think I would be smart enough to decipher all of those complicated signs > Funny thing is that a few tournaments in the fall we picked up a few kids as a tryout and their signs were exactly the same as mine.. Maybe I am just too simplistic for these 12 years old..No wonder I don't get paid.
Lighten up guys and don't take anything away from these kids. It was a long hard battle with 24 good teams and this weekend it was the Braves and Tpx in the ship. nothing more nothing less! |
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is it spring yet
30 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2012 : 20:44:37
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Ill tell you in my opinion, the pitching this year in general has been outstanding. There are no teams lacking in good quality pitching it doesnt seem. quote: Originally posted by FLABB
Spring, I take it you saw the same game I did. One great factor is it did come down to pitching as these two teams are high powered hitting squads and for both teams to keep the score what it was shows that at this age great pitching is starting to come to the forefront more and more. The other part was situational execution and failure of which both sides had both.~~~KRS
quote: Originally posted by is it spring yet
The play that ended the game and the the one where they baited the throw to second to score the winning run were the difference. Taking nothing away from the braves because thay are obviously a very solid team, but it is flattering to know they had to do that to win and it wasnt necessarily pitching hitting or fielding that was the difference. The last play I still am not sure what happened. Man at first and second 2 outs full count w/ a pretty good hitter in the box and a pretty good hitter on deck, Who knows what may have happened. Good job TPX and congrats to the Braves quote: Originally posted by rbr08
The difference was not coaching, take away a few base running mistakes and TPX probably wins it.
quote: Originally posted by FLABB
Filed by KRS
Ship came down to a nail cruncher. Congrats to both teams. Braves were clutch and TPX fought galliantly. Came down to a pitching duel with he difference evidently coaching. It was as if the ECB staff knew what TPX was doing before they did.
Here is to a great well run tourney at all the age groups I covered and a great final in 12u that I was lucky enough to witness.
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BangTheBox
121 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2012 : 23:41:01
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Yes the impact was immediate and explosive in the Ship. The new players were responsible for most of the offense with the BIG BAT getting most of the hits and scoring at least half of the runs and the pitcher used his wiles to keep the Braves guessing.
quote: Originally posted by shoelessjoe
KC - I agree with being loyal and using your regular players. Did the "new" TPX players have much impact during the tourney?
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ecball
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Posted - 05/01/2012 : 09:03:54
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I was informed that I needed to go read this site as more inaccurate information about my team is being shared. Here is the truth of what went on:
1) The kid that TPX picked up from the Young Guns was the real deal on the mound. I thought he was outstanding. Not as dominate as the big lefty for the Renegades (also Central Gators) but a great pitcher. It's interesting to play FL teams because you can never tell who is going to play on which team(?) you are facing.
2) Nobody is stealing signs. Some fan screamed this out on our first batter of the game. If you want to see if we are stealing signs just watch who we are looking at. I'm NOT staring at the coach on a bucket and all catchers at this age know how to hide signals. Also, if you hear coaches use the exact same language to each batter and they only say two things right before the pitch is coming, then they are stealing signs. Obviously that wasn't happening and we are under the microscope more than any team so we wouldn't even consider it. Also, if you watch us play - over the past 300 games we have never pitched out so again if we are stealing signs from the base coach, I'm not sure what good it's doing. I had no idea what they were going to do as I've never seen them play. They were well coached and a talented group of kids. I just guessed at some things and got them right. I've been running games for 5 years (about 300 of them) so this isn't my first rodeo.
3) I feel terrible for the kid that made that base running mistake and it was a crappy way to end a good game. As for the base running play we ran in the top of the 6th it was simple. We got a 2 out walk by our fast lead off hitter, a single to right by the next kid which brought the kid to 3rd so we had 1st and 3rd with 2 outs with two of our fastest kids on the bases. We ran a simple play that everyone has in their bag and it worked. Your not always going to out hit everyone 80 games a year.
4) It's an eye opener playing the FL teams. The fans are intense and they have some pure hatred for one another. Up here, some teams don't like each other much but down there, they just flat can't stand each other and the fans want every call and every pitch. I'm getting emails this week about one team stealing all the players from one area and how badly they wanted that coach to lose to us. They are intense is all I can say. One team was losing 15-1 and their fans claimed that we brought the umps up from Atlanta to win the tournament. The stuff these folks were coming up with was interesting...The funny thing was the umps down there were very good (about like they are at ECB). They missed a couple for both sides but they didn't dictate the outcome of a 15-1 game.
Mike - ECBraves |
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Dozer
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Posted - 05/01/2012 : 11:52:55
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All I have to say is we have been in tournaments with the East Cobb Braves and I can tell everyone reading this board that Mike, Chris, and the Braves are nothing but 1st class who have a great team! Funny how even at 12U and younger people are so jealous and envious of a winner. I mean true winners too. Doing it the right way while teaching and developing these kids both on and off the field. By the way, they also have fun doing it. Not their fault they have a talented group of players who have been together for the last 5 years!! That is what a team is all about! Anyone can pick up a player or 2 to win a tournament but in the long run what did that prove? |
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peashooter
297 Posts |
Posted - 05/01/2012 : 14:17:38
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I agree with ecBall. Sometimes you have to win because you do the little things right. 643 wins ton's of games because they have a great bag of trick plays that they are masters of. I can tell my kids 100X about the fake pick to 2nd where the whole team runs to the outfield, and they still fall for it. I don't know the exact play he is speaking of but there are plenty of late game late inning running situations you can use to try to steal a game. The best players know how to counter it, and it really comes down to instinct on the field and execution.
That is why baseball is the best sport. You have to be smart, and handle INSANE pressure. |
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5220 Fans
112 Posts |
Posted - 05/01/2012 : 15:22:03
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BINGO, see my previous post in this thread
quote: Originally posted by Dozer
All I have to say is we have been in tournaments with the East Cobb Braves and I can tell everyone reading this board that Mike, Chris, and the Braves are nothing but 1st class who have a great team! Funny how even at 12U and younger people are so jealous and envious of a winner. I mean true winners too. Doing it the right way while teaching and developing these kids both on and off the field. By the way, they also have fun doing it. Not their fault they have a talented group of players who have been together for the last 5 years!! That is what a team is all about! Anyone can pick up a player or 2 to win a tournament but in the long run what did that prove?
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rbr08
40 Posts |
Posted - 05/01/2012 : 15:24:41
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Two players were picked up by TPX due to one kid being out sick and another leaving the team. The team takes the same roster to tourneys and has been playing great. I watched the game and didn't see signs being stolen. It was a great game and TPX beat themselves. Look forward to seeing the Braves again the end of this month.
quote: Originally posted by Dozer
All I have to say is we have been in tournaments with the East Cobb Braves and I can tell everyone reading this board that Mike, Chris, and the Braves are nothing but 1st class who have a great team! Funny how even at 12U and younger people are so jealous and envious of a winner. I mean true winners too. Doing it the right way while teaching and developing these kids both on and off the field. By the way, they also have fun doing it. Not their fault they have a talented group of players who have been together for the last 5 years!! That is what a team is all about! Anyone can pick up a player or 2 to win a tournament but in the long run what did that prove?
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