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GoBlue
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 Posted - 04/24/2011 : 20:48:39
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Snorton11 I agree 100%. Alot of these boys are just learning how to pitch. If your pitchers are on and throwing strikes life is good, if not you could end up losing a game you would normally win. I watched my sons team lose a game 8-7 and I don't think the other team hit a single ball out of the infield. "Walks will kill you" quote:
Originally posted by snorton11
I really dont think any one tournament is going to settle anything. The 9u division is a hard one to figure out. I believe there are at least a dozen or more teams that are capable of beating anyone on any given day. However, these same teams can also be beaten on any given day. It really comes down to consistency. I look at scores and watch teams, and I am blown away by something each weekend. Parity has hit the 9u group, and it's a wonderful thing to watch.
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Holly
192 Posts |
Posted - 04/24/2011 : 23:03:49
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| Uncle Ron, the Angels actually lost the game vs Creekview Jr Grizzlies, 12-11. |
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HOMER10
36 Posts |
Posted - 04/25/2011 : 09:37:17
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| I recently had a chance to watch homeplate play the cherokee reds in villa rica this past weekend, and let me tell you,homeplate hit the ball better than any team that I have seen so far this year and had absolutely stellar pitching with a kid throwing absolute smoke with a devastating changeup in a 17-2 win in the championship game. I understand that they have won three tournaments so far this year and also have a win against the backyard boyz who are ranked third in power. This team appeared to be very well coached and played great defense in the win. Great job homelate! |
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Cumming baseball
62 Posts |
Posted - 04/25/2011 : 10:43:08
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WOW
That's impressive. Looking at the Reds numbers they seem to give alot of runs but 17 to their 2. HP shut them down. Great Job. You can't win on hitting alone. Reds sometimes the bats go dry but pitching needs to be there at every tournment. |
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Uncle Ron
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Posted - 04/25/2011 : 11:35:52
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Originally posted by Holly
Uncle Ron, the Angels actually lost the game vs Creekview Jr Grizzlies, 12-11.
You're right. My mistake. Grizzlies scored 5 runs in bottom of third and came from four down to win. |
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baller
66 Posts |
Posted - 04/25/2011 : 16:07:13
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Uncle Ron, the Angels haven't played the WF Diamond Dawgs in 2011, so hard to say you are 2-1 against them, isn't it?
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Memphis
86 Posts |
Posted - 04/25/2011 : 20:19:02
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| Hate to pile on Uncle Ron, but the Cooperheads have played the Angels once in 2011 (10-9 Copperhead win) so the 1-1 record is not accurate either. |
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hardball09
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Posted - 04/25/2011 : 21:14:00
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| Uncle Ron whose teaching and condoning those 8 YO boys throwing curve balls? |
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angels1
73 Posts |
Posted - 04/25/2011 : 23:23:50
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Hardball09 no one on our staff has taught our kids to throw a curve ball. We have a few kids that are great athletes with an improper throwing delivery. No one made any comments on these same kids delivery when they were throwing only fast balls which also had some movement. The same kids will throw across the diamond with movement on the ball. Two of the three kids also toss the football so that most likely has alot to do with the difficulty for them to consistently throw with a flat wrist to the target. The only change from last year to this year was a change in grip. If someone was really watching they would see this kids delivery on every pitch is unorthodox but time and time again the emphasis has been on the change up only. Do we teach proper mechanics? Yes. Is it hard to break bad habits? Yes. Are we still working on it? Yes. If we taught our kids to throw curve balls all of our pitchers would be throwing them. Out of 9 pitchers 3 have a delivery that will produce that type of movement. If you want to be critical about pitching, talk about all of the messed up pitchng deliveries you see in 8u - 10u baseball not just the ones that loop because the fast ball a kid throws improperly can be just as damaging as what you are accusing us as doing or talk about the number of pitches kids are thhrowing. I've herd coaches complain but they may have kids on thier team that's throwing 5-6 inngs every tournament where my "curve ball" pitcher is averaging 3 innings per tourny and may only throw 4 change ups the whole weekend.
Hardball, who's teaching the kids ages 8u - 10u on the tournament circuit to pitch from behind their ear, not bend their back, not do a proper knee lift, use no lower body in the pitch? I see it every tournament but because these teams are less successful there's no comments about the potential danger to those kids arms?
I read the comments but don't ussually get involved but I think Hardball comments needed my reply. I've also herd rumblings at some of the games. |
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Harp
20 Posts |
Posted - 04/26/2011 : 06:45:54
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| It's not just those 8 yo boys throwing curve balls, I have seen several 9U teams with kids throwing curve balls. If my kids can't win with a fastball and changeup then we just don't win. I can't believe people are teaching this to 2nd, 3rd and 4th grade kids. Come on Coaches let's not win at any cost! |
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THECOACH
33 Posts |
Posted - 04/26/2011 : 07:49:52
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| The Angels did beat the Renegades last fall on one hit, the rest were scored on walks and errors. I would not class that as 10u hitting. Again I can see that there are some talented kids on the team, but I just would not class them as a team to beat at the 9u level with so many truly talented 9u teams in the mix. |
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Uncle Ron
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Posted - 04/26/2011 : 09:49:15
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This is second year Angels have played up most of the year. Have not seen all games but can comment on games I've seeen.
@ Memphis: You are correct. 4/16/11 Copperheads defeated Angels 10-9 in TC Back to School Brawl. And on 4/18/10 Copperheads defeated Angels 4-1 in Battle of the Creek.
@ baller you are also correct, Angels defeated Dawgs 9-6 (2/21/10) in Febuary Frost, Angels defeated Dawgs 9-8 (4/18/10) in Battle of Creek, and most recently Dawgs defeated Angels 8-5 (10/10/10) in Sunday Slugfest. All in 2010 when Angels were 7 and Dawgs were 8.
I'l end with a quote by Mahatma Gandhi: " First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." |
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Steel-Will
278 Posts |
Posted - 04/26/2011 : 12:10:29
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Originally posted by Uncle Ron
I'l end with a quote by Mahatma Gandhi: " First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
M. Gandhi - Wasn't he the 2nd baseman for the Yankees in '53?  |
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ATLDEE
41 Posts |
Posted - 04/26/2011 : 13:14:59
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| @Hardball09 My kid is one of the kids you are mentioning and yes he stills has a slightly Quarterback delivery. But in no way would I teach or condone a coach asking my kid to throw a curve ball. If you have watched our games he plays third as well and you can see the movement on his balls during warm ups throwing across the field. Also if you guy simple looked at this kids delivery you would see that it is the same delivery as his fastball that has movement as well...the only thing that changes is his grip...and his grip is not that of a curve ball I can assure you of that... And know there are alot of of coaches that want to scream bloody murder if a kids has some movement on a ball but the Alanta Angels are teaching baseball to a group of very special young men.. |
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ddhubbart
11 Posts |
Posted - 04/26/2011 : 14:09:38
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| So how hard do you think your boys up there in Georgia are throwing? |
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ATLDEE
41 Posts |
Posted - 04/26/2011 : 20:16:08
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Originally posted by ddhubbart
So how hard do you think your boys up there in Georgia are throwing?
They are throwing about pretty hard we had one kid clocked in the low 50's at 40 feet last year...but for the rest of the team they fall about the same and I would guess mid 40's...and that about pretty good for 8 year olds... |
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Stinger44
49 Posts |
Posted - 04/27/2011 : 10:55:08
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Originally posted by Steel-Will
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Originally posted by Uncle Ron
I'l end with a quote by Mahatma Gandhi: " First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
M. Gandhi - Wasn't he the 2nd baseman for the Yankees in '53?
Steel....
That is a popular misconception.
Actually, Gandhi never made it at of AAA New Delhi.
According to scouts of the time he had a strong arm but oddly showed a propensity for angry violent confrontations with umpires.
Go figure. |
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wareagle
324 Posts |
Posted - 04/27/2011 : 13:14:46
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They are throwing about pretty hard we had one kid clocked in the low 50's at 40 feet last year...but for the rest of the team they fall about the same and I would guess mid 40's...and that about pretty good for 8 year olds...
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Were these speeds clocked while pitching or "all out throwing". 50's sounds fast for 8 yr old.
Had another coach or dad that was clocking our 10U Major pitchers in a game and they were all 55ish. My son can "throw" probably 4-5mph faster than he can "pitch" consistently.
Dont know anything about the gun he was using or the accuracy as I was just standing behind him and could see readings. None of our pitchers knew they were being clocked.
I think our pitching speeds would be very typical of good 10U pitching |
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ATLDEE
41 Posts |
Posted - 04/28/2011 : 00:13:02
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Originally posted by wareagle
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They are throwing about pretty hard we had one kid clocked in the low 50's at 40 feet last year...but for the rest of the team they fall about the same and I would guess mid 40's...and that about pretty good for 8 year olds...
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Were these speeds clocked while pitching or "all out throwing". 50's sounds fast for 8 yr old.
Had another coach or dad that was clocking our 10U Major pitchers in a game and they were all 55ish. My son can "throw" probably 4-5mph faster than he can "pitch" consistently.
Dont know anything about the gun he was using or the accuracy as I was just standing behind him and could see readings. None of our pitchers knew they were being clocked.
I think our pitching speeds would be very typical of good 10U pitching
@ Wareagle
Not sure of the accuracy of the gun...and this was at 40ft.....now the kid is the largest kid on our team and is the size of an avg 10 year old...
and of course his pitching mechanic are not the greatest...so he actually throws rather than pitch.....
but some of our kids are around mid 40's...
we have some strong arms on our team...... |
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ddhubbart
11 Posts |
Posted - 04/28/2011 : 13:04:36
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Our 9U team in Florida has 6 kids throwing mid 50s and up... We recently won 10U AAU event.....allowing only 8 runs in 29 innings
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game68
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Posted - 04/29/2011 : 13:28:07
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Are the Reds playing in the Spring National??
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Originally posted by Baseballready22
Doing my research, the Reds have won a triple crown and a usssa tourney. I guess they have some sort of pitching.
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Cumming baseball
62 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2011 : 08:36:07
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| I see the Reds are looking for player to fill their roster. Great program a little too far for us. Good Luck finding someone... |
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HOMER10
36 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2011 : 15:43:22
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| Does anybody know who is leading the pack with tournament wins so far this year? The great thing is that on any given weekend, it could easily be a varirty of talented teams! |
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SSBuckeye
575 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2011 : 21:39:53
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| The Diamond Dawgs had been coming in 2nd a lot, but have won the last two weekends to get off the schneid. I'm guessing there must be some teams that have won more than that, though. |
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bigroc19
158 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2011 : 21:47:25
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Ga Yard dawgs have won 7 out 8 USSSA
Home Plate Baseball has been hot...won their last 3 tourneys |
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