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mlbscout
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 Posted - 03/08/2011 : 18:36:14
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MBA Pride's 12u team pulled out of the Super NIT. It seems to me that they may be avoiding a rematch with 2 teams to whom they have lost recently. But who really knows? G-man you usually have the scoop on MBA. What is the story? I suppose they have other motives because I noticed that they are participating in this week's Super NIT in Miami and are still signed up to meet Team Florida in Lake City and Clearwater in a few weeks.
That leaves 4 teams competing for a single berth coming out of Georgia. I don't think that Team Florida can hang with the Bandits, Sandtown, or 643. However, if these teams are as inpatient as MBA was with the off-speed pitches, they may get a surprise. Team Florida lacks power in the lower third of their order. Sandtown and Bandits appear to be strong from 1-10. Perhaps Sandtown may lack some depth in pitching and 643 in power. The Canes from NC will play tough and may cause some surprises in pool and bracket play. It should be an interesting tournament.
The odds on favorites to win this week's super NIT in Miami are the Pembroke Lakes Bulldogs or West Pine Nikes Cobras. MBA is a distant 3rd. Coach Melendez needs to start coaching his team if they want to be competitive. I understand he wasn't there this past weekend when they got blanked twice. Supposedly two parents were coaching.
On a separate note, to be declared #1 at the end of this 12u season a team will need to win the NYBC. For a team to have a chance, it must either win the Elite 32 or the AAU Nationals. There are other options, but they require some traveling and additional expenses.
Since I am a hillbilly from Apallachia, I will be pulling for the Georgia Bandits to earn a berth next week. As for this week, I will be rooting for a very well coached team: West Pines Nike Cobras. I think they will be a team to be wary of as the season progresses. My contacts in south Florida inform me that they have hired two professional coaches to get them ready for Cooperstown and the Elite-32.
G-man I need the scoop on MBA. Baseballpapa, take it to all those teams in Atlanta. Your boys have practiced hitting curve balls and off-speed pitches in your indoor facility. I doubt your team will have problems with the two lefties from Team Florida if they make it to the championship game. |
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6bomber
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Posted - 03/08/2011 : 19:20:15
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| most of the kids on the team fla. roster not only played in the atl. snit. they were in the finals against each other. no doubt sandtown , bandits and others can win this tourney. should be great ball played all around. good luck papa and watch out for that red headed stranger. no telling what story he will come up with next!!! |
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baseballpapa
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Posted - 03/08/2011 : 21:45:33
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mlbscout: I really like reading your posts. It is clear that you have done your homework and have really scouted the teams you are talking about and not just blowing smoke. Now, Ole Papa is a pretty good smoke blower and knows that writing something down and making it happen is two different horses. You have certainly identified the contenders but I would almost best that a darkhorse will appear and mess up all of the brackets. If Team Florida pitches the way they did against MBA I don't think it will matter if the lower third of their order hits or even the upper third for that matter.
The statement concerning the NYBC is probably if not definite a true statement and qualifying for this one will be just as hard as winning it after you qualify. Not many ways to get in so being lucky in picking the right qualifier will be most important.
Not being able to play in the Slugfest will make it harder for us as we do not appear to be playing with all of the cylinders in sync and could have used these games to fine tune our game. We seem to be close to being tuned up but if I know my Bandits the way I think I do they will give it all they have and then some and Papa just hopes that will be enough. |
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10 BB
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Posted - 03/08/2011 : 22:07:40
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mlbscout;
Please tell me what it is you have against Team Florida. We never come on here and boast or bragg, we choose to take the high road because we know that at this age a team can be beat at any time! We have sent out emails to our parents to stay grounded and realize that if a team allows their highs to get to high that their lows will be pretty low! I can't for the life of me understand why a grown man would come on a National site and say that the bottom third of our order lacks power, you have said that our lefty pitcher is "slightly above average" when we handed zero's to a team that has never been shut out. Then you went even further to imply that perhaps our wins against MBA was a result of two parents coaching (forgetting to mention that most teams are coached by parents and that Roger always coaches MBA when Mervyl is away with college). I have a good idea who you are and realize this is the only way you feel you can get under someones skin because you lack the ability to do it on the field. What team are you with, we will step between those lines and play anybody at this age group. We run from know one and surely don't hide behind a screen name and take jabs at 12 yr old kids or teams that work hard!
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mlbscout
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Posted - 03/08/2011 : 22:25:35
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BBpapa:
Your team, the Bandits will be fine even if they haven't played much recently. I'm sure all the hard work that they put in this winter will pay off. I agree with you regarding the dark horse comment. I will still venture to say that your team is the favorite to win. You guys appear to have pitching, hitting, defense, speed, and good coaching. Very few teams have all those ingredients which are necessary to chase the big trophy. I hope you don't take my comments as criticism. I am trying to analyze travel baseball from afar.
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Originally posted by baseballpapa
mlbscout: I really like reading your posts. It is clear that you have done your homework and have really scouted the teams you are talking about and not just blowing smoke. Now, Ole Papa is a pretty good smoke blower and knows that writing something down and making it happen is two different horses. You have certainly identified the contenders but I would almost best that a darkhorse will appear and mess up all of the brackets. If Team Florida pitches the way they did against MBA I don't think it will matter if the lower third of their order hits or even the upper third for that matter.
The statement concerning the NYBC is probably if not definite a true statement and qualifying for this one will be just as hard as winning it after you qualify. Not many ways to get in so being lucky in picking the right qualifier will be most important.
Not being able to play in the Slugfest will make it harder for us as we do not appear to be playing with all of the cylinders in sync and could have used these games to fine tune our game. We seem to be close to being tuned up but if I know my Bandits the way I think I do they will give it all they have and then some and Papa just hopes that will be enough.
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bmoser
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Posted - 03/08/2011 : 22:35:05
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mlbscout:
On Feb 7th, I posted the following on this forum...
Check out the USSSA tourney in Miami that begins tomorrow (Tuesday 2-8). MBA is traveling South to see if they can take down West Pines Cobras and the Pembroke Lakes Bulldogs. Last year, MBA went 3-4 in USSSA play vs. these two teams. I'm not sure how they did outside USSSA, does anyone else out there
MBA ran the table in this event, and seem to be trending well this year (3-0) vs. these two teams as compared to last year. Do your S FLA buds see this trend reversing? Seems like MBA is vulnerable right now. Why don't the Miami teams travel a bit more? What is their track record outside S FLA? What is their record at the Elite 32? I need to look at the past 3 years to see if they played in it.
One thing about MBA, they travel to find the best. I was shocked to read they pulled out of the ATL SNIT. Not like them at all.
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mlbscout
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Posted - 03/08/2011 : 22:53:30
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Mr. 10BB:
I apologize if I have offended you or your team. That was not my intention. I am just trying to participate in this civil forum and analyze youth baseball. I am particularly interested in the top teams in the southeast. I just happened to get the opportunity to watch a few of your games this past weekend via the internet. I am not being critical just analytical. I don't think that the description of an above average pitcher is that bad. Maybe you understood below average, but I said above average. The only thing above average is superior. The lefty on Sunday may have been superior that game. Regarding the comment on bottom third of the lineup, that is exactly what I saw. It seemed to me that most of the big hits came from the top six batters. I could be wrong. I doubt we could play you because we are not involved in high level travel ball in St Albans. I am very involved with the South Charleston Little League, which is just outside of my hometown St Albans. We would be happy winning the district and state championships. Not enough pitching to get any further.
I don't know whether you're a parent or a coach, but I think you should not be so defensive by trying to read between the lines. Your team not only beat one of the top teams in the country, but you shut them out -twice. You have tarnished their image. For that you should be very proud. The Atlanta tournament will have many good teams and I tried to pick from what I read, hear,from different sources and come up with my opinion as to which team might come out on top. You could easily prove me wrong and win the atlanta super nit. I would not be surprised if that happened.
You need to chill out a little bit and enjoy the great success Team Florida is currently achieving. I have gone back and read several of your posts and I have noticed that you can easily become very defensive if someone says anything that can be possibly conceived as negative.
I hope that the people from 643, MBA, and Sandtown don't get after me for the analyses of their teams and for stating posible reasons for their defeats. So far -cross my fingers- they haven't. Have a good evening and enjoy your achievement.
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Originally posted by 10 BB
mlbscout;
Please tell me what it is you have against Team Florida. We never come on here and boast or bragg, we choose to take the high road because we know that at this age a team can be beat at any time! We have sent out emails to our parents to stay grounded and realize that if a team allows their highs to get to high that their lows will be pretty low! I can't for the life of me understand why a grown man would come on a National site and say that the bottom third of our order lacks power, you have said that our lefty pitcher is "slightly above average" when we handed zero's to a team that has never been shut out. Then you went even further to imply that perhaps our wins against MBA was a result of two parents coaching (forgetting to mention that most teams are coached by parents and that Roger always coaches MBA when Mervyl is away with college). I have a good idea who you are and realize this is the only way you feel you can get under someones skin because you lack the ability to do it on the field. What team are you with, we will step between those lines and play anybody at this age group. We run from know one and surely don't hide behind a screen name and take jabs at 12 yr old kids or teams that work hard!
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's probably a Doc!!!
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G-Man
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Posted - 03/08/2011 : 23:18:19
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Its only speculation as to why MBA pulled out of the Atlanta SNIT. First MBA has already won a berth to the Elite 32 in the fall at Disney. So I am going to guess that its just a matter of parents not able to spend the money or wanting to spend that extra money to attend in Atlanta which is a 7 hour trip for them vs a trip to Miami which is 3 hours. I doubt they are running from anyone.
However I will say that I do believe them losing this past weekend and losses and ties they have had in other tournaments against a few other teams has caused a little doubt to rear its ugly head. Not to take anything away from TF but I am not sure they would have had the same outcome if they had to play in the bracket that MBA did. MBA had to use a lot of their better pitching in that bracket to get through it. Whereas TF played some teams that are no where near as seasoned as those in MBA's bracket. However thats the way the brackets fell and thats tournament baseball for you. I am sure in the SNIT that all teams will have a tougher bracket play schedule no matter what their seeding. So this is where all those coaches will get the chance to earn the big bucks making those all important pitching decisions.
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Spartan4
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Posted - 03/08/2011 : 23:49:26
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| I personally think more "Great" teams are from Florida than Georgia....But I think the Bandits are probably a little better than anyone in the southeast as of now. The older the boys get the more games they will lose so I don't even look at a tournament as who is better than who. I think we would be better off looking at what the record would be in 6-10 games. Personally I think the Bandits and Team Florida are the favorites for the Atlanta Super NIT. Of course Sandtown and 643 will be tough, and another team will probably surprise at least one good team. I can't wait to come watch the big games that I can make when we aren't playing 11U. We have some friends from Team Florida and the Bandits so that would be a GREAT championship game!! |
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6bomber
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Posted - 03/09/2011 : 08:36:04
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| cmon 10bb you know better than to let someone not involved get involved. you guys have respect for your competitors and return the gesture. mlbscout, if you can get to the games you will see 10bb cutting up with the coaches,parents, and kids from all teams at the snit. |
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mlbscout
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Posted - 03/09/2011 : 09:52:26
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G-man: thanks for another good analysis. To be honest, I have only seen some of these southern teams play via the internet. As you know only a small number of games are transmitted. I have to gather information from people like you and reading the forums and looking at the stats on USSA, AAU, and Triple Crown. It does become difficult at times. Regarding your comments on the tougher bracket for MBA vs TF, I can't really tell if MBA had to use some of their better pitchers because unfortunately the list of innings pitched is not maintained online for Sunday's games. I guess you're simply specualting but it does make sense. What I don't understand is why would they burn 2 of their starting pitchers on Saturday's pool games. Do you have any idea if the super nits in Miami and Georgia will be webcast? Will you be attending any of them?
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Originally posted by G-Man
Its only speculation as to why MBA pulled out of the Atlanta SNIT. First MBA has already won a berth to the Elite 32 in the fall at Disney. So I am going to guess that its just a matter of parents not able to spend the money or wanting to spend that extra money to attend in Atlanta which is a 7 hour trip for them vs a trip to Miami which is 3 hours. I doubt they are running from anyone.
However I will say that I do believe them losing this past weekend and losses and ties they have had in other tournaments against a few other teams has caused a little doubt to rear its ugly head. Not to take anything away from TF but I am not sure they would have had the same outcome if they had to play in the bracket that MBA did. MBA had to use a lot of their better pitching in that bracket to get through it. Whereas TF played some teams that are no where near as seasoned as those in MBA's bracket. However thats the way the brackets fell and thats tournament baseball for you. I am sure in the SNIT that all teams will have a tougher bracket play schedule no matter what their seeding. So this is where all those coaches will get the chance to earn the big bucks making those all important pitching decisions.
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mlbscout
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Posted - 03/09/2011 : 09:55:49
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Spartan4:
Besides the 4 teams we all agree on which other team or teams may be able to pull a surprise?
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Originally posted by Spartan4
I personally think more "Great" teams are from Florida than Georgia....But I think the Bandits are probably a little better than anyone in the southeast as of now. The older the boys get the more games they will lose so I don't even look at a tournament as who is better than who. I think we would be better off looking at what the record would be in 6-10 games. Personally I think the Bandits and Team Florida are the favorites for the Atlanta Super NIT. Of course Sandtown and 643 will be tough, and another team will probably surprise at least one good team. I can't wait to come watch the big games that I can make when we aren't playing 11U. We have some friends from Team Florida and the Bandits so that would be a GREAT championship game!!
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mlbscout
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Posted - 03/09/2011 : 10:00:52
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bmoser:
There is no doubt that the competition in this week's super nit in Miami is not quite at the level of the one in Georgia starting next week. If MBA wins the super nit in Miami which is not a given, the runner up will get a berth to the elite 32. Unfortunately in Atlanta only one of the teams will earn this honor. Not fair is it?
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Originally posted by bmoser
mlbscout:
On Feb 7th, I posted the following on this forum...
Check out the USSSA tourney in Miami that begins tomorrow (Tuesday 2-8). MBA is traveling South to see if they can take down West Pines Cobras and the Pembroke Lakes Bulldogs. Last year, MBA went 3-4 in USSSA play vs. these two teams. I'm not sure how they did outside USSSA, does anyone else out there
MBA ran the table in this event, and seem to be trending well this year (3-0) vs. these two teams as compared to last year. Do your S FLA buds see this trend reversing? Seems like MBA is vulnerable right now. Why don't the Miami teams travel a bit more? What is their track record outside S FLA? What is their record at the Elite 32? I need to look at the past 3 years to see if they played in it.
One thing about MBA, they travel to find the best. I was shocked to read they pulled out of the ATL SNIT. Not like them at all.
I'd love to see the top 4 from FLA take on the top 4 from GA.
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DBL PLAY
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Posted - 03/09/2011 : 16:58:54
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| I think this will be a great event. Some very good teams from out of state will attend as mentioned Team Florida but also Rocket City Roadrunners, Memphis Outlaws, Canes, Spartanburg Phillies and Cubs Select 12u Red. This would be a great opportunity to really test the Bandits. Most of us Ga. teams for a couple years have been scared of the Bandits and except defeat even before we play so we tend to pitch maybe a lesser pitcher against them to save our pitching for other teams. At this point in our kids youth baseball careers I think we should take the chance and go after the Bandits, don't save the pitching and try to beat them in pool play! I know our team probably doesn't have the pitching to win a tournament of this magnitude but we could possibly beat the Bandits with our ace which in itself would be a victory in the state of Ga. They will more than likely save their studs for the games against teams like Team Florida and this could very well be the breaks we need. After all isn't the team that wins it all supposed to be the best team in the tournament with the most or best pitching? Lets find out just how good the Bandits are!!! My sons coach asks that we not post on this site but I'm tired of all the banter from certain teams!! |
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TAZ980002
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Posted - 03/09/2011 : 22:05:24
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Which team is yours DBL PLAY?
You are right, any team in the upcoming Super NIT is capable of beating the Bandits or any other team. Bones, Stixx and ECB Astros have already proven they can give our boys more than a challenge. Luckily, our kids have battled hard and managed to come out on top so far. Best of luck to your team. Make sure you stop by and introduce yourself to our team if you get the chance. |
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10 BB
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Posted - 03/09/2011 : 23:10:43
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Here are my pool picks based on points, lets see how close I'm not!! LOL
Pool A
1) Canes #1
2) Memphis Outlaws #5
3) Spartan Phillies #9
4) Elite Gamers Red #13
5) ECB Titans #17
6) SS Spartans Black #21
Pool B
1) Hoco Cubs #2
2) Rocket City Roadrunners #6
3) ECB Luck #10
4) Ga. Jackets Gold #14
5) Upstate Mavericks #18
6) Sliders #22
Pool C
1) Team Florida #3
2) HPC Dogs Black #7
3) Cubs Select #11
4) Ga. Academy Team TPX #15
5) 643 Cougars #19
6) Mill Creek Hawks #23
Pool D
1) Chain Dirt Dawgs #4
2) Bandits #8
3) Sandtown Red Sox #12
4) ECB Astros #16
5) Duluth Wildcats #20
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coachtony
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Posted - 03/10/2011 : 01:44:02
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Actually, 10BB, it SHOULD be seeded using a snake or serpentine as it is called.....so it would look like this.....
Pool A: 1, 8, 9, 16, 17, 24
Pool B: 2, 7, 10, 15, 18, 23
Pool C: 3, 6, 11, 14, 19, 22
Pool D: 4, 5, 12, 13, 20, 21
Of course this is just "standard" pool placements...sometimes the TD has to make special arrangements for travel schedules, fields, etc, but most of the time in the large tournaments it will stay close to the normal way of doing things.
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baseballpapa
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Posted - 03/10/2011 : 07:45:04
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I am assuming that 10BB pool picks are based on current USSSA points. I am also assuming that since the Bandits and many of the other Georgia teams play little USSSA events that we will be lower seeded. Seems to be a disadvantage but it really is not. What the Georgia teams must do is knock off the higher seed and you will get their route to the finals. I love what 10BB said in a earlier post when he said that you have to know your opponent and play to win every single game with the best you have for that game and I feel that the Bandits will use his way of thinking in this one.
I will be watching with great interest to make sure the Georgia teams get treated fairly but with USSSA they usually are since the pools are usually based on the point system developed by them and if you chose not to enter their events then this is the time that you feel the pain as a result of not playing USSSA events. |
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mlbscout
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Posted - 03/10/2011 : 09:13:08
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It is very difficult to pick the teams that will make it to bracket play or win their respective pools because many of these teams have not played very many games yet.
There is no doubt that Team Florida, Bandits, Sandtown, NC Canes,and 643-DP should be among the finalists. It depends a lot on seeding and pool play matchups. At the end of the day it will be either Team Florida or Georgia Bandits unless they have to play each other before the final game. If teams decide to use their best pitchers in pool play as DBplay hinted then some surpises in seeding could develop. Teams from Georgia that have recently played well such as Bones Baseball and Stixx Baseball did not register. The addition of those teams would have made the tournament even more difficult to win. I did not include the Hococubs as one of the teams to potentially cause trouble, even though they're ranked high in points, because the quality of their competition has not been very strong. When they did play a competitive team, they lost badly. One never knows if they have added players or not and could prove me wrong and do very well in the tournament. I have also ruled out the Chilidogs and the Chain Diert Dogs for similar reasons.
I must clarify: this is my analysis based on reviewing their recent and past records on USSSA and Triple Crown websites. It is not meant at all as criticism. Since my post from a couple of days ago I have changed my mind and will now state that Team Florida and Bandits are dead even in my opinion. It all depends on which pitchers are available to go against each other. Team Florida has recently proven that they can beat anybody and with relative ease. Georgia Bandits have had a stellar record for years but most recently have shown that they are a little rusty and vulnerable. Once that rustiness goes away, their vulnerability will be greatly decreased. Whether or not the Atlanta Super NIT will bring out their polished play is anyone guess. Good luck to all.
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Originally posted by 10 BB
Here are my pool picks based on points, lets see how close I'm not!! LOL
Pool A
1) Canes #1
2) Memphis Outlaws #5
3) Spartan Phillies #9
4) Elite Gamers Red #13
5) ECB Titans #17
6) SS Spartans Black #21
Pool B
1) Hoco Cubs #2
2) Rocket City Roadrunners #6
3) ECB Luck #10
4) Ga. Jackets Gold #14
5) Upstate Mavericks #18
6) Sliders #22
Pool C
1) Team Florida #3
2) HPC Dogs Black #7
3) Cubs Select #11
4) Ga. Academy Team TPX #15
5) 643 Cougars #19
6) Mill Creek Hawks #23
Pool D
1) Chain Dirt Dawgs #4
2) Bandits #8
3) Sandtown Red Sox #12
4) ECB Astros #16
5) Duluth Wildcats #20
6) Elite Gamers Black #24
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bmoser
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Posted - 03/10/2011 : 09:38:57
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mlbscout:
Don't limit yourself to USSSA and Triple Crown play to handicap. Look at some other sources like Nations, Grand Slam, the Sandy Plains Feb Frost, and this weekends CWS format Regional's. The more game data on these 12U AAA/Major teams you can get, the better your picks will be.
Doesn't hurt to get out and watch some games too. I know you're not local, but if your son's not playing the w/e of the SNIT, come watch some games. |
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mlbscout
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Posted - 03/10/2011 : 12:32:54
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I do realize that I am at a great disavantage by not being able to watch any of these teams play. Probably I shouldn't even be guessing who the favorites are without knowing a lot more about these teams. To be honest, my impressions are based mostly on reports from USSSA tournaments for this and previous years. I also take under consideration other people's comments and opinions on this and other forums. I picked either Team Florida or the Bandits to win the tournament in Atlanta yet I have only seen Team Florida play via the internet in 3 games last week. The only time I have actually seen the Bandits play was when they were at the Elite 24 World Series at age 9. Since that time I have read and heard a lot about them.
In MLB everybody knows that the NY Yankees and Boston Red Sox will have a great chance at winning the AL pennant. We all know that the Philadelphia Phillies will have a great shot at winning it all. However, I don't get to see these teams play that often except on television occasionally. I guess I'm doing the same predicting with travel baseball as I do with MLB. I would love to fly to Atlanta and take in the tournament. It is somewhat costly to fly and long to drive. Also, it appears that the teams are going to be spread out all over the south Atlanta area. A rental car would be a must. I have not yet ruled out the trip. My son is hinting that we go although his league play is about ready to start. If I do decide I'll be sure to look you up. Your comments are always very insightful. I would also like to meet the one and only baseballpapa.
In summary; you are correct I should not be handicapping teams which I have not seen play. I will follow your advice. One thing is certain though, the numbers or statistics don't often lie.
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Originally posted by bmoser
mlbscout:
Don't limit yourself to USSSA and Triple Crown play to handicap. Look at some other sources like Nations, Grand Slam, the Sandy Plains Feb Frost, and this weekends CWS format Regional's. The more game data on these 12U AAA/Major teams you can get, the better your picks will be.
Doesn't hurt to get out and watch some games too. I know you're not local, but if your son's not playing the w/e of the SNIT, come watch some games.
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G-Man
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Posted - 03/10/2011 : 15:03:07
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I have to disagree a little. Six of those teams in the Miami **** could come up to Atlanta and win that SNIT if the brackets lined up just right.
The Atlanta SNIT will be a crap shoot. Too many factors revolve around how the brackets will line up. There will be some spoilers in pool play which will shake up bracket play for 1 or 2 of the tournament favorites. However based on the field sizes I am going to say Bandits and Sandtown will face eachother in Championship.
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Originally posted by mlbscout
bmoser:
There is no doubt that the competition in this week's super nit in Miami is not quite at the level of the one in Georgia starting next week. If MBA wins the super nit in Miami which is not a given, the runner up will get a berth to the elite 32. Unfortunately in Atlanta only one of the teams will earn this honor. Not fair is it?
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Originally posted by bmoser
mlbscout:
On Feb 7th, I posted the following on this forum...
Check out the USSSA tourney in Miami that begins tomorrow (Tuesday 2-8). MBA is traveling South to see if they can take down West Pines Cobras and the Pembroke Lakes Bulldogs. Last year, MBA went 3-4 in USSSA play vs. these two teams. I'm not sure how they did outside USSSA, does anyone else out there
MBA ran the table in this event, and seem to be trending well this year (3-0) vs. these two teams as compared to last year. Do your S FLA buds see this trend reversing? Seems like MBA is vulnerable right now. Why don't the Miami teams travel a bit more? What is their track record outside S FLA? What is their record at the Elite 32? I need to look at the past 3 years to see if they played in it.
One thing about MBA, they travel to find the best. I was shocked to read they pulled out of the ATL SNIT. Not like them at all.
I'd love to see the top 4 from FLA take on the top 4 from GA.
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moss21
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Posted - 03/10/2011 : 15:57:02
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Im going to put my two cents in this topic, we played both the Bandits and Team Flordia in two different tournaments and I will have to say that they are both as strong as rope when it comes to 12 u baseball. If I had a hundred dollars to bet on the best team, I would have to put fifty on each of them.
I don't care how good their bottom hits the baseball, sometimes great pitching is going to shut down good hitters.And when it comes down to it ,the team that gets the right break at the right time is going to be the one that comes out on top most of the time.
Both papa and 10bb need to make sure that ya'll pack your blood pressure medicine in you travel bag. |
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bmoser
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Posted - 03/10/2011 : 16:10:06
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mlb scout:
I wasn't saying you shouldn't handicap just because you don't/can't watch. You just need to collect more data from a wider variety of sources, especially this early the season. By mid-season, you can pick winners with a lot more certainty than you can now, and you dont even have to leave your couch. You're right, the data doesn't lie...if you have enough of it.
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Longhorn Fan
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Posted - 03/10/2011 : 22:12:45
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| Are you kidding me? Team Florida can hang with any team in the country. They just proved that this weekend. Also, good solid pitching will always beat good solid hitting at this age level. Their pitchers hit their spots well and have been trained over the last few years that they have to be able to throw any pitch in any count and to trust their control. Their is nobody in the country that can hit like the MBA Pride, but yet the pitchers of the Florida team shut them down completely in not just the championship game but also in pool play. No hitter can sit back on a 2-0 count, 3-0 count, or 3-2 count and look fastball every time because if they do they might get embarassed. No disrespect to the MBA Pride, they are a very good team. They just need to learn work the counts better and play a little more small ball. Cannot pound it out every time. |
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Spartan4
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Posted - 03/11/2011 : 00:04:49
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| I can't think of an age where I would take hitting over pitching??? |
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