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wareagle
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 Posted - 12/08/2010 : 11:04:14
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bmoser
Nothing in the water in Albany. Just some very good coaches who have also done a good job of recruiting throughout the state. I Know at least a few of the kids are from several hours away. I don't always agree with this, but if you want to compete with teams from Atlanta you must do something. It seems to work for them so far. |
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tae281
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Posted - 12/08/2010 : 11:57:53
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I will say this, we probably have the most outspoken fans out there and that's fine. In my humble opinion, the Braves and Stealth are still clearly the top two teams out there until some of the other major teams can consistently beat them. We had the opportunity to play both of these teams last season and just kept them from scoring 20 in each game so it wasn't even close. Also, don't knock the fact that we lost two very strong players from the fall, we're still trying to figure out how to replace their contributions.
We just hope to be competitive with some of the other strong teams such as the Rays, Stars, Grays, GA Titans, Gamers and other major and AAA teams out there. Looking forward to the spring!!
Tae
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Spartan4
913 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2010 : 15:59:41
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Tae is right about the the best team being the Braves and Stealth are 1A IMO.....
And Titans is def right about the Grays being ahead of the Gamers....Not a knock on the Gamers as they are clearly a major team, but the Grays have a lot of talent...... |
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ecball
72 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2010 : 10:17:24
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Coaches appear to be using alias and self promoting their own team to help them recruit. I'm constantly getting texted from people saying, read this....this guy can't be serious....
About 50% of what is said is true and the other 50% is inaccurate on purpose with an agenda in mind. Most of what is mentioned regarding the Braves is inaccurate due to the fact that we don't have any parents that post on this board to correct it. Many of my parents read this board and get confused because the info is so far off. We have lost one kid in the past 4 years so it's interesting to read each year that some other team "took" two of the Braves best players. The coach that posted that knows better as I sent him a kid.
At this point, it doesn't matter what the topic is as it will eventually turn into a debate about who are the best 5 or 10 teams. The poster will then give his opinion and of course put in the team that his kid plays on or the one he coaches. This stuff is almost like a disease for some folks as they want to win so bad it's clouding their better judgement.
Someday when we all come to our senses about this stuff (13U - 80 and 54 foot fields) it would be great to see who is behind all of these screen names. Who is Keyser Soze....ECBinsider, Bravesfan, Grandpa (my favorite handle). I'm waiting for someone to take the handle of Cecil Newton for this topic. I have a feeling many great posts didn't make it past the moderator on this topic.
Also, I know that the Bomberz read this site and are probably a bit confused as to how ECB just got the best 60 players in the state - guess what - we didn't. I'm not going to comment on my team but the Bomberz would beat the teams mentioned 8 or 9 out of 10 times. I'm not saying teams didn't improve because we all did as the Yard Dogs split up and moved north. This in turn helped many teams (Bomberz included), but the gap last year was huge. The wildcard team this year will be the Longhorn's - could win big or not so much.
BTW - We are still interested in putting together the Bmoser Invitational at ECB in your honor. I was serious about this offer that my assistant presented to you. Your work on this board is both entertaining and informative. We would have loved to have a young bmoser on the Braves if he would have just waited a few more days to pop out. Soon enough he will compete against his own age.
Mike Kirksey
ECBraves
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SSBuckeye
575 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2010 : 22:31:02
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We need a game! This same stuff happens on the college football boards I visit around June every year.
Andy Young
Milton Nationals
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Spartan4
913 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2010 : 23:49:55
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I've been looking to change my handle on here for a couple weeks now.....you just gave me two DOMINANT ideas.....
look for either Kaiser Souze or Cecil Newton180k......LOL
I have asked a few people who they are with before and gotten an answer of "I would like to remain anonymous" |
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ONE WAY
48 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2010 : 16:42:43
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| Mike, I agree with you a lot of team got better after the YARD DOGS split, for one team to say they picked up the best of the best is just wrong. I watched a lot of fall game and the the team that made the best moves were the Longhorn's. They pick up one of the best bats I saw in the fall and the pitching they picked up along with the gloves makes them a team that will open a few eyes this year. I look for them to play great baseball this year, but you still have to play the games. Games are not played on paper. For some of the posting to say one team has the best players in the state I hope that team can prove it when it is time to play. |
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ecball
72 Posts |
Posted - 12/15/2010 : 08:18:48
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I agree with you One Way but I would caution posters about the self promotion that seems to be going on. Most people can figure out in about 5 minutes which team a poster is with (and then guess exactly who the poster is) because all posts are archived.
All of this started with teams promoting themselves and their coaches for recruiting purposes and now the conversation has taken a turn for the worse and moved on to the kids. This is a slippery slope when you start self promoting kids. For two straight years one ECB team has claimed to have the best SS, however last years SS now plays for the Braves so that is a tough one to follow. One of the dads from Stealth called me this week and said they can't wait to play a couple of these teams. He said that while teams were battling it out in fall ball with many solid AAA teams, the Bomberz played Triple Crown Fall WS and finished 2nd in Major 12U. They just hope they have the best corner outfielders in the state...
I can see a post coming in the spring and it will go something like this; Wow, I just saw the best 3rd baseman in the state play. He plays for team X and this weekend he went 12-15 with 2 HR's, 4 Doubles, 5 SBs, 2 diving stops. If you ask me to reveal my name, I can't because my son's coach said I can't do it...
I don't think anything should be posted about who the best kids are unless a coach signs his name at the bottom and is discussing another teams player in a very positive light.
There seems to be so many other topics that could be discussed that might actually benefit parents or coaches that have questions. |
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Spartan4
913 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2010 : 01:50:34
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| I'm not 100% sure but I think the best SS in the state plays on 6 different teams...... |
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ONE WAY
48 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2010 : 16:13:33
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| I do not have a son that plays at east cobb and also I am not a coach their. I just enjoy watching baseball and following kid's until they reach college or pro's. I see what some of these coaches are posting & parents and it is unreal to say you have the best of this or the best of that. Coaches & Parents please let the kids play. If I had a child that plays at ecb or i coached their at 11u, I would just let the kids play and get better as baseball player. |
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Glenn Newton
57 Posts |
Posted - 12/22/2010 : 23:57:21
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Originally posted by ONE WAY
I do not have a son that plays at east cobb and also I am not a coach their. I just enjoy watching baseball and following kid's until they reach college or pro's. I see what some of these coaches are posting & parents and it is unreal to say you have the best of this or the best of that. Coaches & Parents please let the kids play. If I had a child that plays at ecb or i coached their at 11u, I would just let the kids play and get better as baseball player.
Neither do I , I just enjoy watching and reading about 11u baseball in Georgia |
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disneypackage
11 Posts |
Posted - 12/23/2010 : 13:26:28
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| Seems like we all have a lot in common since I don't have a child on a team either. There is nothing more interesting then reading about 11U baseball and what everyone's thoughts are. |
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Spartan4
913 Posts |
Posted - 12/25/2010 : 04:12:29
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| So nobody has a kid that plays on any of these teams??? You guys just follow the 11U age group around??? |
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Grampa Steinbrenner
24 Posts |
Posted - 12/26/2010 : 18:31:59
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| While we're on the topic ONEWAY, I dont have a child that plays baseball, my son plays golf, I just make it all the tournaments and follow the 11u age group |
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sgates
48 Posts |
Posted - 12/27/2010 : 11:09:50
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Originally posted by Spartan4
So nobody has a kid that plays on any of these teams??? You guys just follow the 11U age group around???
S4, I believe they are being a little sarcastic in response to the post that talked about the poster not having a player in this age group but seems knows more about it than all of us.
Im just ready to play and see how all this pans out, I agree w Kirksey on one topic and thats the Longhorns, they are either gonna be the team to beat everyweek or may struggle with continuity due to having that many new players with a lot of talent, I can comment on that because I have been in those shoes before, time will tell, but as we all know, it will come down to who pitches on what day against who in any given game!
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11UFAN
149 Posts |
Posted - 12/27/2010 : 12:59:57
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Spartan4,
I think these posters (or poster) are/is having a little fun with ONEWAY. Maybe he has a family member (not a son) on one of these teams? I am almost 100% sure that no one would spend their weekends going to 11U tourneys unless they had a kid involved. Maybe he is a "professional" 11U scout LOL...
We need a tournament really really really bad... |
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whos your daddy
9 Posts |
Posted - 12/27/2010 : 16:34:06
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To reply to all of you about ONEWAY he is my brother and come's to all of his nephews
games. So now we can put that topic to rest and play baseball and see what team will rise to the top.
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bmoser
1633 Posts |
Posted - 12/28/2010 : 09:31:48
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ONE WAY:
I don't go to games in this age group because my son plays 12U, but I do watch 40+ games/year in his age group that my son isnt a part of. Most of them are games just before, or just after my sons', or, in the hours between games. If he's in a TC event and doesn't play until Saturday, I might pop over to see Friday's games. If there's a tourney close to home on an off-weekend for my son's team, I'll go watch. Occasionally, if there's a top team I haven't seen, or a good match-up, I'll even drive a ways to see it.
Its a hobbby, just like watching NFL, NASCAR, NCAA Sports, Golf, ect..
I'd rather watch youth baseball live than pro sports on TV.
You are mostly right though, the vast majority only watch their sons'.
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Spartan4
913 Posts |
Posted - 12/28/2010 : 23:51:28
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Good post Mr. Gates, I agree with the pitching comment 100%!! I have seen many times as I'm sure everyone else has one good pitcher put a team in the ship' that wouldn't have come close to getting there if not for him......As for the Longhorns, I think we will be alright once we get a couple tourneys under the belt....I really enjoy talking about who is better than who but with new teams I think it is usually a bad idea to rank them near the top...While I think the Longhorns have a great talent pool until we are successful against top teams or win tourneys that matter I don't think any predictions about us are relevant....While we were successful against a few pretty good teams during the fall, I don't think we faced any dominant pitching or saw a true top 1-3 team.....
Mr. Gates, have you also seen teams that were successful after rebuilding and picking up a lot of "talent" from different teams?? We will probably both agree that the older Astros groups IMO are built from boys from many different areas, are these teams successful because they have no nonsense coaches?? Or is it the older kids parents have some experience?? And by this I mean there isn't constant bickering about who is pitching or hitting where, or ONE parent consistently reminding everyone where his son played the previous year?? The best team we have EVER been on was the 10U Ga Grip(both on field success and a GREAT group of boys/families), and that team was put together from the better kids from each park in Gwinnett county and we didn't have any arguing or complaining about the coaching so maybe that is a large part of it? |
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wareagle
324 Posts |
Posted - 12/29/2010 : 09:25:29
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And by this I mean there isn't constant bickering about who is pitching or hitting where, or ONE parent consistently reminding everyone where his son played the previous year?? The best team we have EVER been on was the 10U Ga Grip(both on field success and a GREAT group of boys/families), and that team was put together from the better kids from each park in Gwinnett county and we didn't have any arguing or complaining about the coaching so maybe that is a large part of it?
If you put together a really good group of kids who all played SS,P Etc for their previous team, You better be able to win 80%++ of your games. The Parents will not be able to say much about the coaches choice of position or batting order if he is winning. If he is losing it will always be because little johnny wasn't pitching and batting leadoff. |
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sgates
48 Posts |
Posted - 12/30/2010 : 00:56:44
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Originally posted by Spartan4
Good post Mr. Gates, I agree with the pitching comment 100%!! I have seen many times as I'm sure everyone else has one good pitcher put a team in the ship' that wouldn't have come close to getting there if not for him......As for the Longhorns, I think we will be alright once we get a couple tourneys under the belt....I really enjoy talking about who is better than who but with new teams I think it is usually a bad idea to rank them near the top...While I think the Longhorns have a great talent pool until we are successful against top teams or win tourneys that matter I don't think any predictions about us are relevant....While we were successful against a few pretty good teams during the fall, I don't think we faced any dominant pitching or saw a true top 1-3 team.....
Mr. Gates, have you also seen teams that were successful after rebuilding and picking up a lot of "talent" from different teams?? We will probably both agree that the older Astros groups IMO are built from boys from many different areas, are these teams successful because they have no nonsense coaches?? Or is it the older kids parents have some experience?? And by this I mean there isn't constant bickering about who is pitching or hitting where, or ONE parent consistently reminding everyone where his son played the previous year?? The best team we have EVER been on was the 10U Ga Grip(both on field success and a GREAT group of boys/families), and that team was put together from the better kids from each park in Gwinnett county and we didn't have any arguing or complaining about the coaching so maybe that is a large part of it?
S4, here is what I have learned, As a coach, you will never be able to make everybody happy at any level of any sport, some parents of a 7yo soccer player thats a great defensmen, wont be happy bc little johnny's not scoring goals, parents of 17-18yo stud football players arent always happy bc "they arent getting the ball enough." Just the nature of the beast of competetive sports. Now, you hit the nail on the head as far as most of the older teams that have players flying in weekly, etc., that works bc 1, the HC doesnt have too put up with any "unhappy" parents, they will be released on the spot, and 2, most of the players at that level know their role. Bottom line is we as Coaches must gain the trust of the players and parents that we are doing whats in the best interest of the team, if you can establish that, you're ahead of a lot of folks!
Tae has done a great job establishing that much talent on one team, what Im saying may or may not happen is everybody must "buy-in" to what he is doing and trust him and not worry about where who plays or how many innings this kids has and where is my kid batting in the lineup. If ALL the parents buy-in, I personally think you guys have more talent than any of us, however, all it takes is a little adversity and then we'll see how it all pans out.
I also think itll take until the Super NIT to really see what we all have, especially pitching depth. |
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Glenn Newton
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Posted - 12/30/2010 : 20:00:00
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Back to the original question, The 6-4-3 Cougars will be this years giant killer. I have heard through my numerous sources around the southeast that they added a few incredible players, one in which should be playing major 12U. One source thats pretty much in the know in the ATL area has them highly ranked going into the 2011 campaign especially after finishing so high in Cooperstown in the 2010 campaign.
Look out for the Couuugs in 2011
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oldschooldad
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Posted - 12/30/2010 : 23:26:40
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Originally posted by Glenn Newton
Back to the original question, The 6-4-3 Cougars will be this years giant killer. I have heard through my numerous sources around the southeast that they added a few incredible players, one in which should be playing major 12U. One source thats pretty much in the know in the ATL area has them highly ranked going into the 2011 campaign especially after finishing so high in Cooperstown in the 2010 campaign.
Look out for the Couuugs in 2011
Well coached team but IMO they are a mid level AAA team. Run at Cooperstown was nice but againist the stronger teams they came back to earth. Time will tell. |
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BravesFan
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Posted - 12/31/2010 : 10:22:06
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Originally posted by Glenn Newton
Back to the original question, The 6-4-3 Cougars will be this years giant killer. I have heard through my numerous sources around the southeast that they added a few incredible players, one in which should be playing major 12U. One source thats pretty much in the know in the ATL area has them highly ranked going into the 2011 campaign especially after finishing so high in Cooperstown in the 2010 campaign.
Look out for the Couuugs in 2011
LOL Glenn, who was last years Giant Killers? Right now, you have the big two (Braves & Stealth) and then everybody else. That's not a bad thing as the next 5-6 teams are all comparable and can beat each other on any given day.
Cougars made some moves and have improved considerably in the off season, don't think they'll be top 4 but could be a solid mid-major type team if they are as good as people are expecting. |
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baseballnutz
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Posted - 12/31/2010 : 14:46:04
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| I had the chance to watch the 11U Cougars in the 12U Panthers woodbat and they looked strong beating the 12U Chili Dogs and had the 12U Jags beat until a misplayed ball in the outfield late. I haven't seen much of this age so I don't know where they will finish but based on the small sample I saw I've got to think they will compete with anyone. |
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