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ecbpappi
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 Posted - 11/18/2010 : 12:36:16
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I know we haven't started the 11U season but really looking towards Cooperstown at 12, can someone give a time-line or idea how that whole thing comes together?
How do you secure your week? Funding & Dates? Rosters? |
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prestont
197 Posts |
Posted - 11/18/2010 : 15:52:59
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I can give ya some feedback on Cooperstown funding deadlines based on going last year as a 10U.
From what I recall.....
$1,000 deposit due with registration form (Sept)
$2,000 deposit due Nov 1
Balance due - March 1
Regarding rosters... here is what I found out last year. Rosters can be turned in as late as the week before your team is due to arrive in Cooperstown. Last year we unfortunately we lost a player during spring, and entertained bringing a replacement player to Cooperstown (& how I found out about roster deadlines). However, the team decided against it and we just brought the boys that played with the team all year.
Here is a link to the 2012 Cooperstown registration form;
http://www.cooperstowndreamspark.com/CDP_Forms/2012_TeamRegistration.pdf
Looks as if you rank the weeks you prefer to play (1, 2, 3, etc.) and Cooperstown tries its best to accommodate.
Hope this helps ecbpappi! |
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tae281
447 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2010 : 12:03:41
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| So, for the average team, how much are we talking about? $15k total? |
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KMball
54 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2010 : 04:48:54
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Originally posted by tae281
So, for the average team, how much are we talking about? $15k total?
Tae, Last year our team spent a little over $15K for 12 players and 3 coaches. That included all CDP fees, an umpire for the week, trading pins and towels. You need to do lots of fundraising over the winter, or prepare your families to cut checks by March to cover the bulk of this expense.
In addition to that, each family will have its own travel and lodging expenses to deal with and budget for. Sounds expensive, and it was, but it was definitely worth the investment! |
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12uCoach
357 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2010 : 10:11:19
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With time to plan, I would like to offer an idea that I have done 3 times, and look forward to doing again in 2013.
Barnstorm for a week on the way up to Cooperstown. Using the wonderful Interwebz I contacted 50+ teams and a few took me up on the offer to play some games on the way up to CDP. Rent a 15 passenger van and a trailer.
Combining the best of 2001, 2007, 2008 looked like this:
Leave Thursday for Virginia Beach
Play a DH in Virginia Beach on Saturday. Travel to new Hotel after the game
Play a DH in Staunton, VA Sunday
Travel to Columbia, MD
Visit DC on Monday
Game on Tuesday
Travel to Pittsburgh on Wednesday
Play Beaver Valley Red on Thursday
Travel to Niagara Falls Friday Morning
I leave Niagara Falls for Friday Night Check in at CDP, players stay in Syracuse
Saturday Players and Parents arrive in Cooperstown.
Some parents travel the whole way, some met us in different cities. It is a fun time... |
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Spartan4
913 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2010 : 14:02:01
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| I realize Cooperstown is a once in a lifetime experience but aren't 200 ft fields a bit small for 12 year olds?? From what I heard there were kids hitting 205 ft pop ups every single game...I'm not so sure I would want to spend that kind of money to travel across the country to watch a HR derby.....Does anyone know if they have considered going wood bat? A 12U coach I talked to last season in Panama City told me that his best pitcher didn't give up but one HR all season and then gave up 6 in Cooperstown......Maybe he had a bad week?? |
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eastcobbkreskin
143 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2010 : 17:41:47
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Distance from the back of home plate to the outfield fence is a local league option, but the following distances are recommended: baseball, 12-year-olds and below, 200 feet; baseball, 13-year-olds and up, 300 feet;
http://www.littleleague.org/leagueofficers/fieldspecs.htm |
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tae281
447 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2010 : 18:43:04
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| So, do they use little league rules in Cooperstown? I'd hate to play 46' 60' at 12U.. |
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prestont
197 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2010 : 19:21:28
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Spartan -
Last year when we went @ 10, kids could play baseball. We saw our share of HRs last summer @ CDP (some just flat out impressive 260-270+ bombs) - but many of the umpires we got to hang out with said its a HR derby @ 12, and hits were either a single or HR - nothing in-between.
However, it really is a beautiful facility and a great week of baseball. |
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oldschooldad
203 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2010 : 19:23:59
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Originally posted by eastcobbkreskin
Distance from the back of home plate to the outfield fence is a local league option, but the following distances are recommended: baseball, 12-year-olds and below, 200 feet; baseball, 13-year-olds and up, 300 feet;
http://www.littleleague.org/leagueofficers/fieldspecs.htm
Many, many posts about little league rules teams being antiquated but IMHO the distance of the fences and the pitching distances are the 2 most in need of change. What is the 12u pitching distance and base length at Cooperstown?
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3sondad
220 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2010 : 22:46:26
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Originally posted by oldschooldad
[quote]Originally posted by eastcobbkreskin
Many, many posts about little league rules teams being antiquated but IMHO the distance of the fences and the pitching distances are the 2 most in need of change. What is the 12u pitching distance and base length at Cooperstown?
50' 70' |
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bmoser
1633 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2010 : 23:01:22
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| It's not the fence distance, its the hot bats. Jack Nicklaus warned the golf world for years that if they kept making hotter balls and clubs, all the courses will become obsolete, but nobody listened. So now, all the nations best courses are having to be lengthened...like Augusta just did. Its much less costly to place restrictions on the equipment. I don't think wood bats are the answer, just limit the metal and composites. |
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Spartan4
913 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2010 : 00:41:28
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| I believe it is 47'.....Not sure, but I remember reading on TBS about pitcher either blowing it by people or it being a HR. Anybody else get the idea that the LL WS isn't the best kids or teams for that age??? I mean I can't remember the last time we couldn't lead off....I just wish kids could play the game of Baseball...... |
Edited by - Spartan4 on 12/10/2010 08:12:05 |
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crackedbats
160 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2010 : 08:42:36
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per the Cooperstown website 11 and 12u 50/70 with 200ft fences 8ft high
10u is 47/70 with 200ft fences 8ft high
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ONE WAY
48 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2010 : 08:45:12
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| If a kid cannot hit it the bat they use will not make them a better hitter. We cannot put it on the bats put it on the hitter. |
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DecaturDad
619 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2010 : 09:55:40
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| The real issue with the fences is that they are 8 foot wooden fences. We went last year at 10. If you don't clear the fence, they tend to bounce off it and come back 20 feet. So, either get it over. or drop it in a gap. A hard line drive will bounce off the fence and get you a single. |
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Spartan4
913 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2010 : 12:34:19
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| So the fence construction led to a lot of singles?? We played on 200ft fences at 10s and I never thought that it was an issue, but 12s is a whole different story.....Some of these kids are HUGE!!! |
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oldschooldad
203 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2010 : 14:14:09
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Originally posted by DecaturDad
The real issue with the fences is that they are 8 foot wooden fences. We went last year at 10. If you don't clear the fence, they tend to bounce off it and come back 20 feet. So, either get it over. or drop it in a gap. A hard line drive will bounce off the fence and get you a single.
I would think that a wooden fence that causes the ball to come back hard would lead to MORE extra base hits. The outfielders will must likely play up againist the fence or pretty close to it. A lot of balls a going to hit the fence hard and then bounce way from them. Alot of chasing after the balls and runners rounding the bases. A chain link fence has no bounce and the ball will hit the fence and fall to the ground.
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DecaturDad
619 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2010 : 14:14:44
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Yes. I think it did. My son worked all year on hitting hard line drives. Unfortunatly, when they hit a wooden fence, they bounce back. A lot like wall ball. The out fielder just scoops it up and throws it in. It kind of forces the pwer hitters to go for the glory shots. That was at 10. At 12, a lot more kids are clearing 250, so 200 is not a problem for them :-)
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Originally posted by Spartan4
So the fence construction led to a lot of singles?? We played on 200ft fences at 10s and I never thought that it was an issue, but 12s is a whole different story.....Some of these kids are HUGE!!!
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Spartan4
913 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2010 : 15:41:18
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| Last season we saw a pretty big boy(not very fast) hit the retaining wall in RF of ATPP and he managed a legit triple.....Man that would be a bad way to win a game if a fast runner turned 4 bases out of 2!! |
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