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DugoutWizard
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 Posted - 11/05/2010 : 10:32:36
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| Can we please put a stop to all the chanting from the dugout and in-field during a baseball game. This should have stopped after 7u coach pitch. I don't believe it has a place in travel baseball and is a poor reflection on the coaches who allow their teams to chant. |
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wareagle
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Posted - 11/08/2010 : 11:45:45
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Couldn't disagree more. Chanting is fun for the kids and that is what this is all about. FUN! Chanting keeps the kids minds in the game and keeps them motivated in what can be a slow game at times. Chanting should always be done in a positive and encouraging manor by cheering on your own team. There is a difference in chanting and taunting a pitcher or team, and that should not be tolerated.
Chanting is also for the kids, most times I have seen a problem it is with the adults(cowbells, rude chants, etc). As with any good thing, you can go too far. |
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ecbinsider
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Posted - 11/08/2010 : 11:56:24
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| Depends on what type of chanting we're talking about, if it's the normal positive chants then I'm ok with but at 11U it does seem out of place. If it's at kids trying to pitch or catch a ball, then that's really low-down junkyard stuff and has no place. |
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doubleplay11
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Posted - 11/08/2010 : 21:23:44
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| Wizard, there is an entire discussion about this same topic in the general category. It is under "dugout chatter". It seems as if the general consensus is that the the chanting is not ok. I believe you are talking about taunting a player on the opposite team or trying to purposefully hinder the performance of a child on the opposite team and not just cheering on your team. I agree it is a poor reflection on the coaches and parents of the player that allow this to go on. |
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ERROR ON 6
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Posted - 11/09/2010 : 10:11:39
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Originally posted by DugoutWizard
Can we please put a stop to all the chanting from the dugout and in-field during a baseball game. This should have stopped after 7u coach pitch. I don't believe it has a place in travel baseball and is a poor reflection on the coaches who allow their teams to chant.
If this is how you feel you aught to send this same message to the NCAA, the last time I checked and watched the college world series and the softball world series those 18-23 yo kids were chanting , yelling, "talking " smack...while most of the time they have their hat backwards.
Its part of the game, light'n up |
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bbwoodstock
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Posted - 11/09/2010 : 12:25:39
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| I strongly agree with wareagle and insider. And just because it happens at the older levels like NCAA doesn't make it acceptable, at least not for my 11U son. Thankfully this is not part of the game that our coaches or parents chose to teach. We strive to instill good sportsmanship at EVERY opportunity, an honor for the great game, and total respect for everyone including the opposing team and parents. IMHO, allowing negative chanting to persist is a very poor reflection on both the coaches and parents. I would not hesitate to pull my son (very competitive AAA player) from the dugout for any negative behavior/words directed at the umpires or other team. Conversely, I think many of us have experienced negative chanting/taunting/smack from opposing players (and more often parents) a few times each season. We try to teach our boys to block this out as much as possible and maintain their composure. To their credit, they often handle it better than their parents... |
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ducktape6
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Posted - 11/09/2010 : 13:19:22
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You guys are ridiculous.....I am 800 miles away and said that i was not going to post again until spring but some of the views and comments on the board are so adult driven and one sided. The game is for the kids. And if they want to cheer/chant then so be it. If parents want to cheer and chant then so be it. This counrty club style of play that you parents want to submit your kids to because you are trying to protect them in the long run will be counter productive. I always challenge this question to coaches, parents and critics.......At what point to we start training our kids to play under the conditions that they will face in high school, college or maybe even pro. First its not all about winning, then we are taking something that cost each household an average of $5000.00 per year to serious and now we should not cheer for our kids. PLEASE.....
Now i will be the first to admit that some groups cheering is more of an advantage than others ...... Yard Dogs, but that same style of play and cheering has made its way up 75 to the Braves in our age group and various other teams who understand the competative advantage strong verbal support can give a team......WHATS WRONG WITH THAT.......And in closing you guys need to get out of the house a little more often and play the real travel circuit ..... Playing in Florida, North Carolina against National ranked teams such as the Legends, Team Florida, Grasshoppers ...... Dont even think about going to Puerto Rico where they play a full concert between innings and heckle you until you submit........Its part of the game that makes it more challenging and fun for the kids......Its you parents that make the big deal out of it ..... I have watched parents rip Yard Dog parents for cheering too loud, hitting bleachers and watched the kids after the game exchange thoughts, phone numbers, batting gloves and play tag while parents find every excuse why the kids won or lost |
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kcndfan
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Posted - 11/09/2010 : 14:43:35
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I agree with all of the comments on this page. I have no issues with positive cheers, even though it seems very softball to me. Negative chanting has no place on any playing field. All cheers should always be to the support of your players and team and NEVER to the detriment or embarrassment of the opponent.
I hear it too often aimed at the other pitcher and or batter or even just flat out screaming when a pop up is about to land or a batter is swinging. We actually had a catcher on an opposing team that would scream at our batters just as the pitch would arrive. No words, just max volume. This should never be tolerated. Low rent and needs to be stopped. |
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bmoser
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Posted - 11/09/2010 : 15:27:45
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DugoutWizard:
It typically stops by the end of 11U, so you don't have much longer to endure it. |
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11UFAN
149 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2010 : 11:30:29
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Originally posted by ducktape6
You guys are ridiculous.....I am 800 miles away and said that i was not going to post again until spring but some of the views and comments on the board are so adult driven and one sided. The game is for the kids. And if they want to cheer/chant then so be it. If parents want to cheer and chant then so be it. This counrty club style of play that you parents want to submit your kids to because you are trying to protect them in the long run will be counter productive. I always challenge this question to coaches, parents and critics.......At what point to we start training our kids to play under the conditions that they will face in high school, college or maybe even pro. First its not all about winning, then we are taking something that cost each household an average of $5000.00 per year to serious and now we should not cheer for our kids. PLEASE.....
Now i will be the first to admit that some groups cheering is more of an advantage than others ...... Yard Dogs, but that same style of play and cheering has made its way up 75 to the Braves in our age group and various other teams who understand the competative advantage strong verbal support can give a team......WHATS WRONG WITH THAT.......And in closing you guys need to get out of the house a little more often and play the real travel circuit ..... Playing in Florida, North Carolina against National ranked teams such as the Legends, Team Florida, Grasshoppers ...... Dont even think about going to Puerto Rico where they play a full concert between innings and heckle you until you submit........Its part of the game that makes it more challenging and fun for the kids......Its you parents that make the big deal out of it ..... I have watched parents rip Yard Dog parents for cheering too loud, hitting bleachers and watched the kids after the game exchange thoughts, phone numbers, batting gloves and play tag while parents find every excuse why the kids won or lost
That a boy ducktape6. Glad you weighed in on this one. I gotta tell you, nothing gets the parents and kids competitive juices flowing more than to play a team that is "over the top" with cheering and chanting (kids and parents). Other than a championship game, those are the games you really want to win!
IMHO, those games are the most fun. Heck, my kid still talks about beating (and losing too)a couple of teams over the last few years that some would consider "over the top" in this regard.
One more thing, say what you want to about the Yard Dogs, but those kids were some of the most honest and respectful kids off the field I've seen. to Duck's point, the chanting and yelling, both off and on the field, is a style of play, so everyone shouldn't jump to the conclusion that these kids/teams are being disrespectful to the game. You just better be ready to back it up on the field because everyone will be gunning for you.
Alot of this will stop as the kids get older, and I for one will enjoy these rivalries until then.
This isn't tennis or golf, this is baseball.
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SSBuckeye
575 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2010 : 14:51:17
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We've gotta be careful in this discussion, because there are many different types of chanting that occurs. I'm on record as saying that if the chanting or cheering is designed to encourage one's own team or teammate, then there's nothing wrong with that. In fact, that's part of the game that I enjoy, certainly at the younger ages.
But, if people are trying to defend tactics that are designed to intimidate or affect in any way the other team, that's bush league. It's bush league at 7u, it's bush league at 11u, it's bush league in high school, and it's bush league in college.
This isn't WWE or UFC, this is baseball. |
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StormCoach45
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Posted - 11/12/2010 : 22:37:18
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| Coming from College I will say the chanting never goes away. The chanting just starts to get more personal and more harsh the older the players get. Even coaches talk crap. I do not care if my boys chant. But there is so much they should be looking for before a pitch that chanting shouldn't go on, but it will. |
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doubleplay11
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Posted - 11/13/2010 : 00:07:01
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This discussion is unbelievable. It's bad sportsmanship to purposefully try to disrupt another childs ability to play. What they should tune it out? Is bullying ok also? These are kids. What are we teaching? I thought it is do unto others as you would have them do unto you!
Buckeye, I agree with you. If you are trying to intimidate or negatively affect the other team it's bush league.
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