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Spartan4
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 Posted - 09/30/2010 : 19:24:59
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| LOL looks like I've been doing it wrong......makes sense I was just not counting it as an AB |
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Spartan4
913 Posts |
Posted - 09/30/2010 : 19:33:48
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| Bankerheel, I wasn't talking at all about any of these kids getting drafted, getting a scholarship or making any of the ECB Astros teams....My opinion(which is obviously different than yours) is that I want my nephew to spend as much time ahead of the curve as possible. I have no idea if mine will be good next week much less next year or in 5 years. But while he can compete at this age we will, if he couldn't we wouldn't try, we wouldn't try and play at the major level. Playing up helped him and the other 2 boys that played up the year before because they had seen curve balls before, and IMO playing at the highest level possible will ensure that he isn't completely suprised when he faces a kid he could have been facing the entire time. Like I said in my last post right or wrong a pretty large group of parents/players want to play at the highest level possible. |
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SSBuckeye
575 Posts |
Posted - 09/30/2010 : 20:24:05
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| Never apologize for being proud, Spartan! |
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Spartan4
913 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2010 : 05:09:40
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Buckeye, I wasn't apologizing for being proud....I didn't want to sound like I was bragging on him for no good reason, as I was only trying to make a comparison of my view for the differences in our classifications....
And bball 2008, we didn't lose many games at the AAA level once we started playing to win, at the beginning of the year we were batting 11 and it showed, halfway through the season we lost 3 and picked up a GREAT player.....After that we were finally able to compete at the level our top 5-6 boys should have been playing at all along. We were still one pitcher off and maybe a little stronger bottom of the lineup but who isn't needing those?? I was obviously mistaken with computing batting average and not counting AB's that resulted in errors. Still the comparison is still there and our batting/on base averages were drastically reduced once our team started facing the premium pitching. Also, we couldn't score from second on any single or walk to second base playing the better competition either. |
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ecbinsider
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Posted - 10/01/2010 : 09:25:29
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Plenty of activity on this subject it seems, here is my take on a couple of things that have been brought up.
Playing Major Ball vs. AA/AAA - First of all, there are kids playing on major teams that are not major players and there are kids on a few AA and more on AAA teams capable of playing majors. Here the deal with this, the level of your classification doesn't really matter. What matters is, are you currently playing against the best teams in your area? Do you stay way from these teams to play only AA tournaments where you come in 1st or 2nd place consistently? I know of several teams that were AA who came out most every weekend and lined up with the best this state had to offer and really admire those teams because those player will develop faster then on a team where they "hide" and play in comfortable environments. I equate playing against major ball teams to taking advanced classes in grade school, you do it to challenge your student/player to help prepare them for the next level H.S./College. Is there any guarantee that this will ensure their success at the next level? It may not in many cases but I think we all really want to put our son in the best possible position when it comes to that point. If you look at other sports such as travel basketball, tennis and even soccer, the better players are either playing up or on elite teams, why is that? A kid playing AA ball now is fine but at some point they'll need to play against the top teams and players, the question when do you do that? Now or when their 13 or 14 years old? Sure puberty and other aspects will affect their potential as it will in any sports but if you took 2 kids of similar make ups and one played at the highest level from now thru H.S. vs. a kid who played AA ball your going to tell me that at age 14 or 15 they'll still have the same skill set? When a major team posts that they are looking for players I bet they have a half dozen kids from AA/AAA teams calling the next day, parents know they need to keep working up the food chain so to speak. Travel ball is a fairly recent phenomenon so you can't tell me that there is proof it doesn't matter now, look at all of the kids from the little league WS who are now pros, weren't they all playing the best? Don't get me wrong, I think player development is a big part as well but don't we all agree that playing against better competition helps develop better players?? If not, why do all of these teams play up in tournaments? To challenge and develop their players! Any parent on a team that doesn't go out and play some of the top teams, please ask yourself what are you doing there??? |
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gafan
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Posted - 10/01/2010 : 10:07:14
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| Playing up in level for additional competition is great for the kids but if you are a mid level AAA team and you consistently take your kids to EC tournaments where Majors teams are playing and you constantly get beat down in your 3 games (which is all you ever really get to play - 2 pool... one bracket) then your kids don't continue to love the game (mine doesn't... he LOVES to win) Learning to lose is great, but its important to have some good wins in there too for confidence.. "only losing by 10 runs" to a major team is not a win in my son's book. So I hope my coach throws a tourney in there every once in a while we know we have a shot at winning. |
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ecbinsider
318 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2010 : 12:08:55
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gafan,
Believe me, I know your feelings. My kid's never played for a major team but we love to go and compete and for the most part we can hang for a little while. We rarely win but when we go back and play teams at our own level, I feel like we have a leg up on them. Consider it, battle ready!!
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SSBuckeye
575 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2010 : 13:18:27
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| The key is to mix it up. I hope to play "up" about 2/3 of the time and at our level the other 1/3. |
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BravesFan
533 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2010 : 22:46:21
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Originally posted by in_the_know
There should be some very interesting data coming out in the next year or two that will largely support what we all know to be true which is that playing baseball year round is more likely to be detrimental to arm health. It was alluded to during the Little League World Series and the report is forthcoming. Basically, they have followed an extremely large sample population of little leaguer's from all over the country beginning in their youth and tracking them through high school. They are now beginning to graduate, so they are getting a large enough sample of data to begin drawing conclusions. Reports will be forthcoming.
Interstingly, they took a look at major league rosters and have found that they tend to be geographically split with more pitchers on ML rosters coming from the northern states and position players (better hitters) coming from the southern states. Their belief is that kids playing in the south, year round, tend to damage their arms to the extent that they aren't as strong or healthy as the northerners, yet hitting year round makes them far better hitters than their northern counterparts. Expect to see the data from their test group to support that hypothesis.
in the know,
Here are the results from the 2010 MLB draft, rounds 1-3 and it looks like the majority of these kids are from the south or west. Bottom line is your theory is not entirely correct.
FIRST ROUND
1. Washington Nationals -- Bryce Harper, C-OF, JC of Southern Nevada
2. Pittsburgh Pirates -- Jameson Taillon, RHP, The Woodlands (Texas) HS
3. Baltimore Orioles -- Manny Machado, SS, Brito (Fla.) HS
4. Kansas City Royals -- Christian Colon, SS, Cal State Fullerton
5. Cleveland Indians -- Drew Pomeranz, LHP, Mississippi
6. Arizona Diamondbacks -- Barret Loux, RHP, Texas A&M
7. New York Mets -- Matt Harvey, RHP, North Carolina
8. Houston Astros -- Delino DeShields Jr., CF, Woodward Academy, College Park, Ga.
9. San Diego Padres -- Karsten Whitson, RHP, Chipley (Fla.) HS
10. Oakland Athletics -- Michael Choice, OF, Texas-Arlington
11. Toronto Blue Jays -- Deck McGuire, RHP, Georgia Tech
12. Cincinnati Reds -- Yasmani Grandal, C, Miami
13. Chicago White Sox -- Chris Sale, LHP, Florida Gulf Coast
14. Milwaukee Brewers -- Dylan Covey, RHP, Maranatha (Calif.), HS
15. Texas Rangers -- Jake Skole, Blessed Trinity HS, Roswell, Ga.
16. Chicago Cubs -- Hayden Simpson, RHP, Southern Arkansas
17. Tampa Bay Rays -- Josh Sale, OF, Bishop Blanchet HS, Seattle
18. Los Angeles Angels -- Kaleb Cowart, Cook County (Ga.) HS
19. Houston Astros -- Mike Foltynewicz, RHP, Minooka (Ill.) Community HS
20. Boston Red Sox -- Kolbrin Vitek, 2B-RHP, Ball State
21. Minnesota Twins -- Alex Wimmers, RHP, Ohio State
22. Texas Rangers -- Kellin Deglan, C, R.E. Mountain SS, B.C., Canada
23. Florida Marlins -- Christian Yelich, Westlake HS, Westlake Village, Calif.
24. San Francisco Giants -- Gary Brown, OF, Cal State Fullerton
25. St. Louis Cardinals -- Zack Cox, 3B, Arkansas
26. Colorado Rockies -- Kyle Parker, RF, Clemson
27. Philadelphia Phillies -- Jessie Biddle, LHP, Germantown Friends School, Philadelphia
28. Los Angeles Dodgers -- Zach Lee, RHP, McKinney (Texas) HS
29. Los Angeles Angels -- Cam Bedrosian, RHP, East Coweta HS, Sharpsburg, Ga.
30. Los Angeles Angels -- Chevy Clarke, CF, Marietta (Ga.) HS
31. Tampa Bay Rays -- Justin O'Conner, C, Cowan HS, Muncie, Ind.
32. New York Yankees -- Cito Culver, Irondequoit HS, Rochester, N.Y.
COMP ROUND A
33. Houston Astros -- Michael Kvasnicka, C, Minnesota
34. Toronto Blue Jays -- Aaron Sanchez, RHP, Barstow (Calif.) HS
35. Atlanta Braves -- Matthew Lipka, SS, McKinney (Texas) HS
36. Boston Red Sox -- Bryce Brentz, OF-RHP, Middle Tennessee
37. Los Angeles Angels -- Taylor Lindsey, SS, Desert Mountain HS, Scottsdale, Ariz.
38. Toronto Blue Jays -- Noah Syndergaard, LHP, Legacy HS, Mansfield, Texas
39. Boston Red Sox -- Anthony Ranaudo, RHP, LSU
40. Los Angeles Angels -- Ryan Bolden, CF, Madison (Miss.) Central HS
41. Toronto Blue Jays -- Asher Wojciechowski, RHP, The Citadel
42. Tampa Bay Rays -- Drew Vettleson, RF, Central Kitsap HS, Silverdale, Wash.
43. Seattle Mariners -- Taijuan Walker, RHP, Yucaipa (Calif.) HS
44. Detroit Tigers -- Nick Castellanos, 3B, Archbishop McCarthy HS, Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
45. Texas Rangers -- Luke Jackson, RHP, Calvary Christian Academy, Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
46. St. Louis Cardinals -- Seth Blair, RHP, Arizona State
47. Colorado Rockies -- Peter Tago, RHP, Dana Hills HS, Dana Point, Calif.
48. Detroit Tigers -- Chance Ruffin, RHP, Texas
49. Texas Rangers -- Mike Olt, 3B, Connecticut
50. St. Louis Cardinals -- Tyrell Jenkins, RHP, Henderson (Texas) HS
SECOND ROUND
51. Washington Nationals -- Sammy Solis, LHP, San Diego
52. Pittsburgh Pirates -- Stetson Allie, RHP, St. Edward HS, Lakewood, Ohio
53. Atlanta Braves -- Todd Cunningham, OF, Jacksonville State
54. Kansas City Royals -- Brett Eibner, RHP, Arkansas
55. Cleveland Indians -- LeVon Washington, OF, Chipola JC
56. Arizona Diamondbacks -- James Bradley, RHP, Nitro (W.Va.) HS
57. Boston Red Sox -- Brandon Workman, RHP, Texas
58. Houston Astros -- Vincent Velasquez, RHP, Garey HS, Pomona, Calif.
59. San Diego Padres -- Jedd Gyorko, SS, West Virginia
60. Oakland Athletics -- Yordy Cabrera, 3B, Lakeland (Fla.) Senior HS
61. Toronto Blue Jays -- Griffin Murphy, LHP, East Valley HS, Redlands, Calif.
62. Cincinnati Reds -- Ryan LaMarre, OF, Michigan
63. Chicago White Sox -- Jacob Petricka, RHP, Indiana State
64. Milwaukee Brewers -- James Nelson, RHP, Alabama
65. Chicago Cubs -- Reggie Golden, OF, Wetumpka (Ala.) HS
66. Tampa Bay Rays -- Jacob Thompson, RHP, Long Beach State
67. Seattle Mariners -- Marcus Littlewood, SS, Pineview HS, St. George, Utah
68. Detroit Tigers -- Drew Smyly, LHP, Arkansas
69. Toronto Blue Jays -- Kellen Sweeney, 2B, Jefferson HS, Cedar Rapids, Iowa
70. Atlanta Braves -- Andrelton Simmons, SS, Western Oklahoma State
71. Minnesota Twins -- Cartier Goodrum, SS, Fayette County HS, Fayetteville, Ga.
72. Texas Rangers -- Cody Buckel, RHP, Royal HS, Simi Valley, Calif.
73. Florida Marlins -- Robert Rasmussen, LHP, UCLA
74. San Francisco Giants -- Jarrett Parker, OF, Virginia
75. St. Louis Cardinals -- Matthew Swagerty, RHP, Arizona State
76. Colorado Rockies -- Chad Bettis, RHP, Texas Tech
77. Philadelphia Phillies -- Percy Garner, RHP, Ball State
78. Los Angeles Dodgers -- Ralston Cash, RHP, Lakeview Academy, Gainesville, Ga.
79. Tampa Bay Rays -- Derek Dietrich, SS, Georgia Tech
80. Toronto Blue Jays -- Justin Nicolino, LHP, University HS, Orlando, Fla.
81. Los Angeles Angels -- Daniel Tillman, RHP, Florida Southern
82. New York Yankees -- Angelo Gumbs, SS, Torrance (Calif.) HS
THIRD ROUND
83. Washington Nationals -- Rick Hague, SS, Rice
84. Pittsburgh Pirates -- Mel Rojas Jr., CF, Wabash Valley
85. Baltimore Orioles -- Daniel Klein, RHR, UCLA
86. Kansas City Royals -- Michael Antonio, SS, George Washington HS, New York
87. Cleveland Indians -- Tony Wolters, SS, Rancho Buena Vista HS, Vista, Calif.
88. Arizona Diamondbacks -- Robert Rowland, RHR, Cloverdale (Calif.) HS
89. New York Mets -- Norman Forsythe, C, Tennessee
90. Houston Astros -- Austin Wates, RF, Virginia Tech
91. San Diego Padres -- Zack Cates, RHS, Northeast Texas CC
92. Oakland Athletics -- Aaron Shipman, CF, Brooks County HS, Quitman, Ga.
93. Toronto Blue Jays -- Christopher Hawkins, SS, North Gwinnett HS, Sugar Hill, Ga.
94. Cincinnati Reds -- Devin Lohman, SS, Cal St. Long Beach
95. Chicago White Sox -- Addison Reed, RHS, San Diego State
96. Milwaukee Brewers -- Tyler Thornburg, RHS, Charleston Southern
97. Chicago Cubs -- Micah Gibbs, C, Louisiana State
98. Tampa Bay Rays -- Ryan Brett, SS, Highline HS, Seattle
99. Seattle Mariners -- Ryne Stanek, RHS, Blue Valley HS, Overland Park, Kan.
100. Detroit Tigers -- Rob Brantly, C, UC Riverside
101. Atlanta Braves -- Joe Leonard, 3B, Pittsburgh
102. Minnesota Twins -- Pat Dean, LHS, Boston College
103. Texas Rangers -- Jordan Akins, RF, Union Grove HS, Locust Grove, Ga.
104. Florida Marlins -- Jacob Realmuto, SS, Carl Albert HS, Midwest City, Okla.
105. San Francisco Giants -- Carter Jurica, SS, Kansas State
106. St. Louis Cardinals -- Samuel Tuivailala, SS, Aragon HS, San Mateo, Calif.
107. Colorado Rockies -- Joshua Rutledge, SS, Alabama
108. Philadelphia Phillies -- Cameron Rupp, C, Texas
109. Los Angeles Dodgers -- Leon Landry, CF, Louisiana State
110. Boston Red Sox -- Sean Coyle, SS, Germantown Academy, Philadelphia
111. Los Angeles Angels -- Wendell Soto, SS, Riverview HS, Sarasota, Fla.
112. New York Yankees -- Robert Segedin, 3B, Tulane |
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Spartan4
913 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2010 : 23:10:52
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| Wow.......the South really puts out the players it seems......I saw some pitchers in there too.....that was the draft only, I would like to see the percentage of MLB pitchers from the North vs. South. |
Edited by - Spartan4 on 10/05/2010 08:28:16 |
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G-Man
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Posted - 10/05/2010 : 01:04:40
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All players need to rest their arms. However I will disagree with your assessment of playing year round is bad for a players arm. As Bravesfan stated if you look at the draft and the top D1 players in the country they all mostly played in states that play baseball year round. Even in Nolan Ryans book he himself states that today kids dont throw enough.
With proper care and precaution playing year round baseball is no hazardous than anything else. All sports train year round in one form or another. Baseball is no different except that it can be played all year in some states. To be honest playing year round is what has helped my son reach the level he has. He has only played baseball for a little over 2 years. Playing year round has allowed him to reach levels of play that I believe others his own age not playing year round would have. In the last two years we have played over 300 games counting travel and Rec ball combined. Last Spring and this fall as an 11 year old he plays and starts for a 14u team and I really dont believe this would have been possible if he didnt have the opportunities playing year round for the last 2 years.
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Originally posted by BravesFan
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Originally posted by in_the_know
There should be some very interesting data coming out in the next year or two that will largely support what we all know to be true which is that playing baseball year round is more likely to be detrimental to arm health. It was alluded to during the Little League World Series and the report is forthcoming. Basically, they have followed an extremely large sample population of little leaguer's from all over the country beginning in their youth and tracking them through high school. They are now beginning to graduate, so they are getting a large enough sample of data to begin drawing conclusions. Reports will be forthcoming.
Interstingly, they took a look at major league rosters and have found that they tend to be geographically split with more pitchers on ML rosters coming from the northern states and position players (better hitters) coming from the southern states. Their belief is that kids playing in the south, year round, tend to damage their arms to the extent that they aren't as strong or healthy as the northerners, yet hitting year round makes them far better hitters than their northern counterparts. Expect to see the data from their test group to support that hypothesis.
in the know,
Here are the results from the 2010 MLB draft, rounds 1-3 and it looks like the majority of these kids are from the south or west. Bottom line is your theory is not entirely correct.
FIRST ROUND
1. Washington Nationals -- Bryce Harper, C-OF, JC of Southern Nevada
2. Pittsburgh Pirates -- Jameson Taillon, RHP, The Woodlands (Texas) HS
3. Baltimore Orioles -- Manny Machado, SS, Brito (Fla.) HS
4. Kansas City Royals -- Christian Colon, SS, Cal State Fullerton
5. Cleveland Indians -- Drew Pomeranz, LHP, Mississippi
6. Arizona Diamondbacks -- Barret Loux, RHP, Texas A&M
7. New York Mets -- Matt Harvey, RHP, North Carolina
8. Houston Astros -- Delino DeShields Jr., CF, Woodward Academy, College Park, Ga.
9. San Diego Padres -- Karsten Whitson, RHP, Chipley (Fla.) HS
10. Oakland Athletics -- Michael Choice, OF, Texas-Arlington
11. Toronto Blue Jays -- Deck McGuire, RHP, Georgia Tech
12. Cincinnati Reds -- Yasmani Grandal, C, Miami
13. Chicago White Sox -- Chris Sale, LHP, Florida Gulf Coast
14. Milwaukee Brewers -- Dylan Covey, RHP, Maranatha (Calif.), HS
15. Texas Rangers -- Jake Skole, Blessed Trinity HS, Roswell, Ga.
16. Chicago Cubs -- Hayden Simpson, RHP, Southern Arkansas
17. Tampa Bay Rays -- Josh Sale, OF, Bishop Blanchet HS, Seattle
18. Los Angeles Angels -- Kaleb Cowart, Cook County (Ga.) HS
19. Houston Astros -- Mike Foltynewicz, RHP, Minooka (Ill.) Community HS
20. Boston Red Sox -- Kolbrin Vitek, 2B-RHP, Ball State
21. Minnesota Twins -- Alex Wimmers, RHP, Ohio State
22. Texas Rangers -- Kellin Deglan, C, R.E. Mountain SS, B.C., Canada
23. Florida Marlins -- Christian Yelich, Westlake HS, Westlake Village, Calif.
24. San Francisco Giants -- Gary Brown, OF, Cal State Fullerton
25. St. Louis Cardinals -- Zack Cox, 3B, Arkansas
26. Colorado Rockies -- Kyle Parker, RF, Clemson
27. Philadelphia Phillies -- Jessie Biddle, LHP, Germantown Friends School, Philadelphia
28. Los Angeles Dodgers -- Zach Lee, RHP, McKinney (Texas) HS
29. Los Angeles Angels -- Cam Bedrosian, RHP, East Coweta HS, Sharpsburg, Ga.
30. Los Angeles Angels -- Chevy Clarke, CF, Marietta (Ga.) HS
31. Tampa Bay Rays -- Justin O'Conner, C, Cowan HS, Muncie, Ind.
32. New York Yankees -- Cito Culver, Irondequoit HS, Rochester, N.Y.
COMP ROUND A
33. Houston Astros -- Michael Kvasnicka, C, Minnesota
34. Toronto Blue Jays -- Aaron Sanchez, RHP, Barstow (Calif.) HS
35. Atlanta Braves -- Matthew Lipka, SS, McKinney (Texas) HS
36. Boston Red Sox -- Bryce Brentz, OF-RHP, Middle Tennessee
37. Los Angeles Angels -- Taylor Lindsey, SS, Desert Mountain HS, Scottsdale, Ariz.
38. Toronto Blue Jays -- Noah Syndergaard, LHP, Legacy HS, Mansfield, Texas
39. Boston Red Sox -- Anthony Ranaudo, RHP, LSU
40. Los Angeles Angels -- Ryan Bolden, CF, Madison (Miss.) Central HS
41. Toronto Blue Jays -- Asher Wojciechowski, RHP, The Citadel
42. Tampa Bay Rays -- Drew Vettleson, RF, Central Kitsap HS, Silverdale, Wash.
43. Seattle Mariners -- Taijuan Walker, RHP, Yucaipa (Calif.) HS
44. Detroit Tigers -- Nick Castellanos, 3B, Archbishop McCarthy HS, Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
45. Texas Rangers -- Luke Jackson, RHP, Calvary Christian Academy, Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
46. St. Louis Cardinals -- Seth Blair, RHP, Arizona State
47. Colorado Rockies -- Peter Tago, RHP, Dana Hills HS, Dana Point, Calif.
48. Detroit Tigers -- Chance Ruffin, RHP, Texas
49. Texas Rangers -- Mike Olt, 3B, Connecticut
50. St. Louis Cardinals -- Tyrell Jenkins, RHP, Henderson (Texas) HS
SECOND ROUND
51. Washington Nationals -- Sammy Solis, LHP, San Diego
52. Pittsburgh Pirates -- Stetson Allie, RHP, St. Edward HS, Lakewood, Ohio
53. Atlanta Braves -- Todd Cunningham, OF, Jacksonville State
54. Kansas City Royals -- Brett Eibner, RHP, Arkansas
55. Cleveland Indians -- LeVon Washington, OF, Chipola JC
56. Arizona Diamondbacks -- James Bradley, RHP, Nitro (W.Va.) HS
57. Boston Red Sox -- Brandon Workman, RHP, Texas
58. Houston Astros -- Vincent Velasquez, RHP, Garey HS, Pomona, Calif.
59. San Diego Padres -- Jedd Gyorko, SS, West Virginia
60. Oakland Athletics -- Yordy Cabrera, 3B, Lakeland (Fla.) Senior HS
61. Toronto Blue Jays -- Griffin Murphy, LHP, East Valley HS, Redlands, Calif.
62. Cincinnati Reds -- Ryan LaMarre, OF, Michigan
63. Chicago White Sox -- Jacob Petricka, RHP, Indiana State
64. Milwaukee Brewers -- James Nelson, RHP, Alabama
65. Chicago Cubs -- Reggie Golden, OF, Wetumpka (Ala.) HS
66. Tampa Bay Rays -- Jacob Thompson, RHP, Long Beach State
67. Seattle Mariners -- Marcus Littlewood, SS, Pineview HS, St. George, Utah
68. Detroit Tigers -- Drew Smyly, LHP, Arkansas
69. Toronto Blue Jays -- Kellen Sweeney, 2B, Jefferson HS, Cedar Rapids, Iowa
70. Atlanta Braves -- Andrelton Simmons, SS, Western Oklahoma State
71. Minnesota Twins -- Cartier Goodrum, SS, Fayette County HS, Fayetteville, Ga.
72. Texas Rangers -- Cody Buckel, RHP, Royal HS, Simi Valley, Calif.
73. Florida Marlins -- Robert Rasmussen, LHP, UCLA
74. San Francisco Giants -- Jarrett Parker, OF, Virginia
75. St. Louis Cardinals -- Matthew Swagerty, RHP, Arizona State
76. Colorado Rockies -- Chad Bettis, RHP, Texas Tech
77. Philadelphia Phillies -- Percy Garner, RHP, Ball State
78. Los Angeles Dodgers -- Ralston Cash, RHP, Lakeview Academy, Gainesville, Ga.
79. Tampa Bay Rays -- Derek Dietrich, SS, Georgia Tech
80. Toronto Blue Jays -- Justin Nicolino, LHP, University HS, Orlando, Fla.
81. Los Angeles Angels -- Daniel Tillman, RHP, Florida Southern
82. New York Yankees -- Angelo Gumbs, SS, Torrance (Calif.) HS
THIRD ROUND
83. Washington Nationals -- Rick Hague, SS, Rice
84. Pittsburgh Pirates -- Mel Rojas Jr., CF, Wabash Valley
85. Baltimore Orioles -- Daniel Klein, RHR, UCLA
86. Kansas City Royals -- Michael Antonio, SS, George Washington HS, New York
87. Cleveland Indians -- Tony Wolters, SS, Rancho Buena Vista HS, Vista, Calif.
88. Arizona Diamondbacks -- Robert Rowland, RHR, Cloverdale (Calif.) HS
89. New York Mets -- Norman Forsythe, C, Tennessee
90. Houston Astros -- Austin Wates, RF, Virginia Tech
91. San Diego Padres -- Zack Cates, RHS, Northeast Texas CC
92. Oakland Athletics -- Aaron Shipman, CF, Brooks County HS, Quitman, Ga.
93. Toronto Blue Jays -- Christopher Hawkins, SS, North Gwinnett HS, Sugar Hill, Ga.
94. Cincinnati Reds -- Devin Lohman, SS, Cal St. Long Beach
95. Chicago White Sox -- Addison Reed, RHS, San Diego State
96. Milwaukee Brewers -- Tyler Thornburg, RHS, Charleston Southern
97. Chicago Cubs -- Micah Gibbs, C, Louisiana State
98. Tampa Bay Rays -- Ryan Brett, SS, Highline HS, Seattle
99. Seattle Mariners -- Ryne Stanek, RHS, Blue Valley HS, Overland Park, Kan.
100. Detroit Tigers -- Rob Brantly, C, UC Riverside
101. Atlanta Braves -- Joe Leonard, 3B, Pittsburgh
102. Minnesota Twins -- Pat Dean, LHS, Boston College
103. Texas Rangers -- Jordan Akins, RF, Union Grove HS, Locust Grove, Ga.
104. Florida Marlins -- Jacob Realmuto, SS, Carl Albert HS, Midwest City, Okla.
105. San Francisco Giants -- Carter Jurica, SS, Kansas State
106. St. Louis Cardinals -- Samuel Tuivailala, SS, Aragon HS, San Mateo, Calif.
107. Colorado Rockies -- Joshua Rutledge, SS, Alabama
108. Philadelphia Phillies -- Cameron Rupp, C, Texas
109. Los Angeles Dodgers -- Leon Landry, CF, Louisiana State
110. Boston Red Sox -- Sean Coyle, SS, Germantown Academy, Philadelphia
111. Los Angeles Angels -- Wendell Soto, SS, Riverview HS, Sarasota, Fla.
112. New York Yankees -- Robert Segedin, 3B, Tulane
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SSBuckeye
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Posted - 10/05/2010 : 08:22:32
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BravesFan,
Apples and oranges. The top 3 rounds of the MLB draft does not equate to a major league roster. For all we know, these southern pitchers blow their arms out in the minors due to the extra work they receive. I have not seen this upcoming report, and I have no idea about its validity, but you've certainly not contradicted it with this info.
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bankerheel
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Posted - 10/05/2010 : 09:39:20
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G-Man,
We can agree to disagree, but if in fact your son has played nearly 300 games in the last 2 years, I will almost gurantee you that he will suffer some sort of either burnout or arm problems by the time he finishes high school if he is a pitcher or a catcher. I hope not but that number is staggering for any age. The professionals play maybe 200 games per year including spring training and fall instructional league, and they are getting paid for it. |
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BravesFan
533 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2010 : 10:08:24
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Originally posted by SSBuckeye
BravesFan,
Apples and oranges. The top 3 rounds of the MLB draft does not equate to a major league roster. For all we know, these southern pitchers blow their arms out in the minors due to the extra work they receive. I have not seen this upcoming report, and I have no idea about its validity, but you've certainly not contradicted it with this info.
Andy
Andy,
No it doesn't but an average major leaguer is what 30 yrs old now? Population demographics have really changed over the past 25 years, many more people moving to the southern states from the north. You also see it in football recruiting, more talent in Florida then any other state this side of the MS river. My kid doesn't play fall ball because his team shuts it down (manager also coaches FB) but I don't see anything wrong with it as long as their not getting overworked during the season. |
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SSBuckeye
575 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2010 : 11:39:47
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| No question on the population trends. That's why my beloved Buckeyes have to recruit Florida (Santonio Holmes, etc) & Georgia (Cam Heyward, etc.) to get all that football talent! |
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G-Man
326 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2010 : 12:34:20
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No he is not a pitcher or catcher. This is one reason I dont allow him to play either or those positions because of the number of games he chooses to play and to save his arm. As for the burnout. No one can predict what will happen in the future. For some players, playing 30 games a year till high school can lead to burnout. For others they could play everyday for the next 30 years and not get burnout. All I can say is my son eats, sleeps and drinks baseball. When he is at home he is either playing wall ball, playing with his baseball cards or playing a baseball video game. He is one of those kids that would rather go play a baseball game then go to Disney, the beach or any other activity that most boys his age love. We always offer him choices and he always picks baseball.
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Originally posted by bankerheel
G-Man,
We can agree to disagree, but if in fact your son has played nearly 300 games in the last 2 years, I will almost gurantee you that he will suffer some sort of either burnout or arm problems by the time he finishes high school if he is a pitcher or a catcher. I hope not but that number is staggering for any age. The professionals play maybe 200 games per year including spring training and fall instructional league, and they are getting paid for it.
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Spartan4
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Posted - 10/05/2010 : 15:24:53
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| I'm with you G-Man, I know mine would rather play 80 games a year than sit at home doing nothing on the weekends..... |
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