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manonmoon
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 Posted - 08/23/2010 : 12:13:27
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| Looks like homeplates late start on tryouts may have hurt.I saw some good players but much like gamers not enought to hang with ecb teams things should be ok for some good baseball.Till next time "all is aok" |
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HomePlate
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Posted - 08/24/2010 : 11:01:39
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| Fair enough but not sure if you can accurately make that statement given none of Homeplates pitcher commits threw during tryouts and two commits werent there at all. |
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Critic22
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Posted - 08/25/2010 : 15:16:20
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| Manonmoon....Not every team is being organized to compete with ECB teams. Have you given any thought to "They just want to play competitive against every team". Your assessment in my opinion is pre-mature. Good luck to HOMEPLATE and all the upcoming teams for the spring. |
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Spygate
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Posted - 08/25/2010 : 19:00:58
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| Its all for the love of the game right Critic! Good luck to Homeplate i hope yall hang in there tough all year. Youll be better for it! |
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FIRE
20 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2010 : 11:55:14
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| what? why would manonmoon be so concerned or worried about homeplate anyway? and just for the record, yes, make no mistake about it, this team is absolutely being organized to compete with ecb. hope to see you in peachtree city again this weekend. |
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Spygate
27 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2010 : 20:58:37
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| Nothing new out at HP this weekend. We were unable to get our max number of players although we got a few good pieces. Any ECB teams with 15 players wanna lend us some? |
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Spygate
27 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2010 : 00:51:36
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| Specifically five players then we would have a team until then we have enough for basketball |
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elitegamers
117 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2010 : 04:43:57
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| @manonmoon... you state above that "but much like the Gamers, not enough to hang with ecb teams"...just out of curiosity, what are you basing this statement on? Very eager to hear your thoughts..... |
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whit417
132 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2010 : 08:44:28
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| I think a few people are in for a surprise this spring..... |
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cutoffman
63 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2010 : 09:35:11
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| Agree Whit417. Some outsiders seem to be posting like they know everything about HP Baseball and criticizing for no reason. Homeplate is actually full with maybe a slot or two held for spring. I think spygate and manonmoon are more worried about whats going on at HomePlate than focusing on there own teams. |
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Foul Territory
32 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2010 : 10:18:18
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Not sure Homeplate program is expecting or striving to be have an elite team on 13U age division. Their 2010 12U team wasn't elite so they'd have to have some major roster changes in 2011 to be thrown in the conversation of Georgia's best, right?? I'm also not agreeing with manonmoon that ECB is bar for success in Georgia at 13U.
I'm an outsider to Homeplate and ECB program but my posts are based on information as much as I can obtain it. 2010 12U Pippin team competed in the USSSA Global Sports WS and finished 2nd in the 4th tier bracket (reference USSSA web site for format info). Congratulations!! But not impressive. |
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lottapop
257 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2010 : 11:46:35
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| Hey guys, lets loose the secret identities. Lets have some fun with one another at the ball park ragging on each other. |
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baseballparent2010
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Posted - 09/03/2010 : 16:10:08
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| I think what is sad is that in 13U on the southside; August was full of drama, team splits, teams being taken away from coaches, and a whole lot of DADDY ball. A couple of facilities have posted comments about their teams that simply wasn't true. The "best talent" has not been combined in Gamer-land. And the "Super Major" team at Home Plate was more than half full when try-outs started. It's sad that at the ripe old age of 13; our son has learned it's all political. We wanted to teach our son that his skill places him on a team and earns him the spot on the field; not his dad's ability to network. This fall our family has learned a lot. However, we will remain confident in our son's ability and not stoop to the level to which we've seen others stoop. |
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whit417
132 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2010 : 16:34:12
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| Only 3 players from last years 12u team. I'd say that's a big change. |
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getusome3ecb
54 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2010 : 17:29:15
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| now that u have a team...its time to rise up and slay the mighty fire breathing dragon...what do u think SMOKE |
Edited by - getusome3ecb on 09/03/2010 18:16:49 |
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whit417
132 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2010 : 20:32:10
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| I don't think anyone has ever said the Home Plate team was going to be a "Super Major" team. With some dramatic improvements they will definitely be a legitimate major team this year. Can't speak for any other teams but there is no "Daddy Ball" on the Home Plate 13U Major team as the coach does not have a son on the team. As far as networking goes, I'm sure there probably was some, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. It might have gotten some feet in the door but every one of those kids on that team earned their spot and deserves to be there. |
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lottapop
257 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2010 : 22:58:19
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Drama on the southside?????? Every team in travel ball has drama of some sort or fashion. There is no "perfect situation" out there. Every Player and Coach has a 1 season contract and if they don't produce....time to move on!!
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seminole tony
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Posted - 09/03/2010 : 23:22:01
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Baseballparent2010 sounds a little bitter. Maybe you should have tried "networking" since your child was as close in talent as you think. From my side as a newcomer to
these teams I have not seen "daddyball". If there was any it seems to have made these teams that much more competitive. Just because a coach has a son on his team does not mean that child doesn't deserve the same chance to play. Good teams and coaches play the best to win and maybe last year it wasn't possible because of friendships and past history. I know this was not an easy thing for these coaches to do breaking up a team.
Coach your own team... not as easy as you might think. Teams are made around parents almost as much as players, we've all been on that team with that "dad or family" no one gets along with.
Take the move as a positive and find your son something better.
I hope to see a group of ELITE 32 contenders in the near future come out of the SOUTHSIDE. Why can't there be several quality teams in the Atlanta area? It happens in Florida, California, Texas. Lets send 3-4 teams to it.
We just need to establish a solid baseball programs on the southside and this fall is the cornerstone of it.
Good Luck Gamers, Homeplate, and Academy(and any one else feeling left out). |
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AA17Dad
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Posted - 09/04/2010 : 09:23:59
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http://www.nwgabaseball.org/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10443
This post ( 12u Forum)and the response from my buddy " SMOKE " might give a few of you some insight into some of the post directed at Homeplate.
As a side note..the Homeplate Elite team SMOKE is refering to is the Chili Dog Jones Teams. There are several 13u teams out of Home Plate that have no interest in a North vs. South War. ( Hope that works out for you ).
The Chili Dogs Jones team will be a solid Major team. Good kids and a good coach. It was good to see Home Plate welcome these families back after leaving for Ga Academy 2 years ago after playing at Home Plate for years and drafting a team out of HP and then taking it to GA.
Plenty of drama around the making of this team, but no different than most of the major teams. Some of the " Better " GA kids mixed with a few of the " Better " HP kids and then recruited a few outsiders.
Like any team that shows up with a "Core" group of kids the coaches did not necessarily take the "TOP " kids at try-outs. They picked the kids that " Fit " their needs. Nothing wrong with that, you can only have so many kids that play 1 position.
I will say that if these try-outs were held at some other location and an indepenent group chose the top 12 base on the try-out evaluation...the roster would be different.
Either way they will be a strong team with quality players and coaching....Don't take them lightly! |
Edited by - AA17Dad on 09/06/2010 09:04:44 |
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manonmoon
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Posted - 09/06/2010 : 11:16:44
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Originally posted by AA17Dad
http://www.nwgabaseball.org/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10443
This post ( 12u Forum)and the response from my buddy " SMOKE " might give a few of you some insight into some of the post directed at Homeplate.
As a side note..the Homeplate Elite team SMOKE is refering to is the Chili Dog Jones Teams. There are several 13u teams out of Home Plate that have no interest in a North vs. South War. ( Hope that works out for you ).
The Chili Dogs Jones team will be a solid Major team. Good kids and a good coach. It was good to see Home Plate welcome these families back after leaving for Ga Academy 2 years ago after playing at Home Plate for years and drafting a team out of HP and then taking it to GA.
Plenty of drama around the making of this team, but no different than most of the major teams. Some of the " Better " GA kids mixed with a few of the " Better " HP kids and then recruited a few outsiders.
Like any team that shows up with a "Core" group of kids the coaches did not necessarily take the "TOP " kids at try-outs. They picked the kids that " Fit " their needs. Nothing wrong with that, you can only have so many kids that play 1 position.
I will say that if these try-outs were held at some other location and an indepenent group chose the top 12 base on the try-out evaluation...the roster would be different.
Either way they will be a strong team with quality players and coaching....Don't take them lightly!
you are right aa17dad a true try out should start from zero with the elite team taking top player 1st.Heres the problem some parents don't like some coaches some coaches don't like some parents try outs not fair to all for sure |
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lottapop
257 Posts |
Posted - 09/06/2010 : 12:12:10
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| I don't think anyone was taken from try-outs by team Jones. Rodney should be able to put together a great team for this year. |
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baseballparent2010
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Posted - 09/06/2010 : 18:33:51
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| AA17Dad- I think you're my neighbor! LOL Anyway- you make the point I was trying to make (but not very well, I guess). I expected a try out to be that- you show up with your kid- and you have 40 kids there- and the top 12 are chosen. That's not what happened. We have the utmost respect for Home Plate- and unlike the Gamers- at least they had a try out. But it is difficult to explain to your 6 year veteran Major Player son that particular positions are taken when he really thought he was going to a true try out. When players are guaranteed positions, that's not a try out team. Anyway, Seminole Tony, I'm not really bitter. We know this will make our son stronger. Our son will be a dominant player in the spring on a competitive Major or AAA team. We hope to see you at the park. |
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AA17Dad
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Posted - 09/06/2010 : 21:33:46
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Originally posted by lottapop
I don't think anyone was taken from try-outs by team Jones. Rodney should be able to put together a great team for this year.
From what I have heard ...he already has.
He did a great jobs with the Home Plate Black 10U team a few years ago and has a proven track record with the older boys. |
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AA17Dad
211 Posts |
Posted - 09/06/2010 : 21:41:40
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Originally posted by baseballparent2010
AA17Dad- I think you're my neighbor! LOL Anyway- you make the point I was trying to make (but not very well, I guess). I expected a try out to be that- you show up with your kid- and you have 40 kids there- and the top 12 are chosen. That's not what happened. We have the utmost respect for Home Plate- and unlike the Gamers- at least they had a try out. But it is difficult to explain to your 6 year veteran Major Player son that particular positions are taken when he really thought he was going to a true try out. When players are guaranteed positions, that's not a try out team. Anyway, Seminole Tony, I'm not really bitter. We know this will make our son stronger. Our son will be a dominant player in the spring on a competitive Major or AAA team. We hope to see you at the park.
Yes...we are neighbores...just down the street....but I am in under cover mode so....... |
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whit417
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Posted - 09/06/2010 : 22:24:23
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| The top players available were selected for the 13u major team. I know for a fact that the coach was looking for players at the tryout. My son was selected at the tryouts. If a player was good enough to be on that team, in the coach's opinion, they would have been selected. In fact, there were several players from tryouts that were given a second look outside of tryouts. That doesn't mean your child isn't a good player, but, not to be rough, he just wasn't as good as one's that were chosen, in the opinion of the coach. The players chosen are the ones that the coach feels gives him the best chance at success. Just because you've played on major level teams before that doesn't give you an automatic roster spot on any team you choose. You have to go out and earn your spot. The boys selected did just that. |
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Foul Territory
32 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2010 : 08:41:23
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Kinda hard to criticize Home Plate coaches/organization for not having a "open" tryout. It's a safe play to build team around players/families you have strong knowledge of. Knowing what a child has done on the field in competitive situations against equal talent is key. Plus knowing families level of commitment and relationship with others in advance of season ensures a smooth summer.
What you hate to see is children ordained as "starting Center Fielder" or whatever before the first official team practice. That closed minded approach is what disappoints people most. Make the boys earn their opportunities. That's all you can ask for...and though they have a paid "manager/head coach" he can't do it alone. So you need at least two Dads with some clubs to round out staff. Of course their sons will make the team. As you go up in age divisions this is less of a reality. I hope all available spots were picked by the paid coach. If he's being paid he should select the players that he thinks will bring the most team success. His job is on the line so I'm sure he's not going to put it in the hands of other Dads who potentially make political selections. |
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