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caughtstealing

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Posted - 01/24/2010 :  06:41:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My son plays for a 13u team in Forsyth County and his manager recently registered them to play in a USSSA tournament in March. I looked at the web site at the tournament and teams entered and saw that teams that had a majority of their players playing on a 2009 Major team (according to the USSSA Site) were registered in the AAA classification (the Blackcrackers - 18 of 19, Team Wilson - 9 of 13).

I know these classifications are subjective (some AAA teams want to be Major teams for perception purposes and some Major teams want to be AAA for scheduling purposes) but if a team wants to move down in classification, is there a petitioning process? Can teams just self declare? What is the precedent?

bmoser

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Posted - 01/24/2010 :  09:16:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Both teams were re-classified from Majors down to AAA by USSSA due to their 2009 results. If you go to this site, click on re-classification, scroll down then open up the report, you'll see.

http://www.gausssabaseball.com/index.cfm?TPID=137
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DoubleD

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Posted - 01/24/2010 :  11:43:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This should help.
http://www.gausssabaseball.com/index.cfm?TPID=137
The two teams mentioned were probably reclassified by USSSA based on their last years performance/record vs. in class teams.
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whits23

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Posted - 01/24/2010 :  14:21:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you have to have (not sure the figure)but a winning percent somewhere below 50% to move down
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caughtstealing

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Posted - 01/24/2010 :  14:43:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great! Thanks for the info and link.
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Alter-Ego

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Posted - 01/24/2010 :  17:00:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
USSSA moved a lot of teams down this year to balance out the Major, AAA, AA, and A divisions.

The thing to remember is that "Just because a team was registered last year as a Major team, does not mean they proved to be. Also just because a player was on a Major team, does not mean he is a major level player."

caughtstealing,
Yes there is a request process for a team to be moved down a level if they feel they can't compete at the higher one. USSSA did this proactively this year, though. They typically move teams up but have not usually down.

There will be some change management needed because too much focus tends to be on the level and not enough on what the team can accomplish for their players.
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