| Author |
 Topic  |
|
CaCO3Girl
1989 Posts |
 Posted - 03/29/2017 : 13:44:21
|
quote:
Originally posted by bama21
This is from the Pitch Smart Guidelines-Tommy John FAQ:
There are a number of factors that contribute to the likelihood of having Tommy John surgery or another arm injury. The single most important factor is daily, weekly and annual overuse.
Other factors include lack of rest, pitching while fatigued, poor mechanics,playing catcher when not pitching, playing on multiple teams at the same time, pitching multiple days in a row and throwing at maximum effort.
As far as monitoring, there is no way to do that and be 100% sure you are not hurting your son's arm. This is how I've seen the so-called monitoring over the years: How do you feel? You think you can give me another inning or two? I know your getting tired, but just get through this inning.
And of course the kid will try to accommodate. Make the decision as early as possible, as far as catching and pitching, if you care about your son's future health.
I think the decision makes itself over time. If you would have asked me three years ago which my son was I would have said that he was a catcher and not a pitcher. Why, because his throw downs were pretty and he doesn't mind getting hit with the ball. In youth baseball that's about 80% of the battle of being a catcher. He was an okay pitcher, he threw hard, but it's hard to tell anything about pitching until you get to the 60x90 field.
Now, if you asked me, in 9th grade I would say he is a pitcher and not a catcher (Of course he thinks he's an outfielder LOL). Why, because he is throwing harder and with more control than many upper classmen, and in High school speed and control is what makes a pitcher. As for catching, he never really got the blocking concept down and with a mile long back stop that tends to be important. |
 |
|
|
Hurricane
351 Posts |
Posted - 03/30/2017 : 10:42:07
|
quote:
Originally posted by Ryno23
quote:
Originally posted by Hurricane
quote:
Originally posted by Ryno23
What is everyone's thoughts on a kid who catches 10 innings of baseball one night, and then turns around and throws 75 pitches the following day for his school's JV team?
I have the Varsity coach's response already, and I will share after some folks chime in with their thoughts.
I guess my question would be is the kid playing for his JV or is he playing travel and JV, then I put that on the parents for letting him play on two teams at the same time. If JV game he caught 10 Innings then pitched the next day I say he probably threw too many pitches but I don't think throwing balls back to a pitcher is the same as throwing full velocity. If he is making a ton of throws during the game to 1B, 2B and 3B different story. Throwing back to the pitcher probably does more help strengthening the arm than wearing it out, although the time between that and pitching is always an issue. Tough when your best catcher is one of your top pitchers.
Nothing was EVER said about travel baseball. This was done all on the same coaches watch.
What he did say was "What some coaches will do for a trophy.Saw a coach in middle school have a pitcher throw 67 pitched on Tuesday, come back on Thursday, with one days rest and throw 140 more pitches to win a trophy. "
When he said Trophy I assumed it was something to do with travel baseball. I was not aware they were giving Trophies in Middle School Baseball! |
|
|
|
granddaddy
3 Posts |
Posted - 03/31/2017 : 07:33:53
|
They have a middle school championship and this was in playing for that. Pitcher was really good,he pitched 9 inning on Thursday and didn't give up any runs, but he labored his last two innings. Everyone there could tell he was really tired. Game was 0-0 after 8 innings, so every pitch was hard.
|
|
|
|
Ryno23
123 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2017 : 06:47:48
|
quote:
Originally posted by Hurricane
quote:
Originally posted by Ryno23
quote:
Originally posted by Hurricane
quote:
Originally posted by Ryno23
What is everyone's thoughts on a kid who catches 10 innings of baseball one night, and then turns around and throws 75 pitches the following day for his school's JV team?
I have the Varsity coach's response already, and I will share after some folks chime in with their thoughts.
I guess my question would be is the kid playing for his JV or is he playing travel and JV, then I put that on the parents for letting him play on two teams at the same time. If JV game he caught 10 Innings then pitched the next day I say he probably threw too many pitches but I don't think throwing balls back to a pitcher is the same as throwing full velocity. If he is making a ton of throws during the game to 1B, 2B and 3B different story. Throwing back to the pitcher probably does more help strengthening the arm than wearing it out, although the time between that and pitching is always an issue. Tough when your best catcher is one of your top pitchers.
Nothing was EVER said about travel baseball. This was done all on the same coaches watch.
What he did say was "What some coaches will do for a trophy.Saw a coach in middle school have a pitcher throw 67 pitched on Tuesday, come back on Thursday, with one days rest and throw 140 more pitches to win a trophy. "
When he said Trophy I assumed it was something to do with travel baseball. I was not aware they were giving Trophies in Middle School Baseball!
Where did I say trophy? |
|
|
|
Topic |
|
|
|
Some Coaches
