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SouthSide24

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Posted - 08/12/2009 :  23:41:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not sure on this one, team has recently added 4 quality players to the roster..NOW, their is one possibly 2 more players that would like to come on board..Problem is the coach is not sure, bcz of the reduce innings some of his "older" roster players, who have been there from day one would receive..These two players are very good and an would make the team a lot better, but adding these two would make 13 on roster. Guess he is looking at loyalty to the parents/kids who have always been on team, but other coaches want these 2 kids and so do the better kids parents! Tough call..

AA17Dad

211 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2009 :  08:53:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What age group are you playing?

Is it aa, aaa, Major?

13 players can be managed well but it takes alot of effort and seems most coaches just can't get it right with 12 or more. But trust me it can be done.

If they are 12 and / or older and a major team. You need to pick them up and then have a team meeting on playing time, positios, ect. Some may choose to move on............
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bballman

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Posted - 08/13/2009 :  10:08:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Depends on what the team wants to be. Do they want to get better and play better competition? Do they want to stay stagnant and stick with the old players? Not sure what age you guys are, but between 12 and 15 many kids get to a point and then don't progress, they have reached their potential.

My son's team is moving on to 16u this year. At 15, we had a couple of kids who had been on the team since the beginning and played very little. They were told at the beginning of the season this would be the case and were given the choice to stay in that role, or they could do something else if they wanted. They chose to stay. For next year, there are several kids who will be cut who have been around for a while. 2 years ago, they were studs. Now, they are just average and we are going for more than that as a team. It's just the way it is as the kids get older. I live in Roswell and son grew up playing in the Roswell Rec league. When he was 8, there were probably 15 teams with 12 kids each on them. Thats 180 kids. On the varsity for Roswell and Centennial, there are maybe 18 kids on each team thats 36 kids. And that includes all four grades. When you look at Seniors only, there may be 20 kids on both teams from that one class. That is 11% of the kids who started playing rec ball. Fact is, as the kids grow, some progress, some don't. May just be time to move on.

Also, 13 kids is not a lot. I think it is a manageable number. JMHO.
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proball

36 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2009 :  10:24:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Add the boys and work thru the roster when you can because it make the whole team much better. Let the other players earn their positions because in High school they would have to do it. This will cause some headaches.
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diamonddad

59 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2009 :  11:05:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think it all depends on the age of the boys, the level of baseball, and what you are trying to accomplish as a team. Each one of these would make a difference in the response. I will tell you, however, that having 13 players will significantly reduce the on field playing time for most of the boys as well as the number of at bats they will get. If they have not been made aware of this up front this should be a top priority on your list of things to communicate. You do have options if you are creative such as using an EH to get certain players more at bats or substitutions to get more field time, but in my personal experience I have seen the reduction in at bats and playing time of around 25%-33%.
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Dr. Old School

314 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2009 :  12:46:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
10 players playing at one time (9 + EH)
2nd catcher rotating to keep fresh (as they get older and more games are played in a tournament, this becomes more and more important).
Extra outfielder.
additional infielder

13 can be managed easily, it just takes some coordination. There is still no reason everyone cannot play 75% of the time but no one should be playing 100% of the time. There are always opportunities to give players time to rest and recooperate. Not to mention, as they get older, injuries become more frequent. Especially with catchers.
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bballman

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Posted - 08/13/2009 :  14:23:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not to mention, it would be ideal to have the next scheduled pitcher out of the game before he pitches to rest and the pitcher who just got done should take some time to recoup. Not go right into position when he gets done. Depending on how many pitches he threw, out the following game as well (I assume you are playing tournament ball). You should also be able to have a relief pitcher warm up before he goes out, so someone should be in for him. If you do things right with the pitchers, 13 may not even be enough.
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TAZ980002

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Posted - 08/13/2009 :  14:29:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by diamonddad

I think it all depends on the age of the boys, the level of baseball, and what you are trying to accomplish as a team. Each one of these would make a difference in the response.



Well said Diamonddad
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