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AA17Dad

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Posted - 02/13/2012 :  09:09:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok, OK, Here's the deal.

ECB. has a killer "Grilled Chicken Ceaser Wrap"
6-4-3. Don't
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90mph

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Posted - 02/13/2012 :  11:08:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AA17Dad

Ok, OK, Here's the deal.

ECB. has a killer "Grilled Chicken Ceaser Wrap"
6-4-3. Don't



YUM....FINALY....GETTING TO WHAT'S IMPORTANT
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90mph

26 Posts

Posted - 02/13/2012 :  11:14:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by klhmlh

My son plays on a summer 16u team at ECB and it isn’t the Astros or Titians. He has a paid coach that plays college baseball and then coaches in the summer. The reason my son decided to play with this team is he really liked his coach and felt that he was relevant to him. I’m telling you this young coach has his head on right and is working to improve these 16 year old young men.



Nice post. You hit it....no pun! My son may be playing for the same team!
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gasbag

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Posted - 02/13/2012 :  13:24:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow sure is a lot of "is he a Dad coach" or not going on.....I'm of the mind who cares ? Most coaches are Dad's whom coached their own kids at one time or another and whom have stuck with coaching. So what ? Being a Dad coach doesn't make you a good or bad baseball coach. It has absolutely nothing to do with it. I understand at the younger ages there are many Dad coaches whom aren't experienced baseball guys but guess what, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to teach fundamentals, sportsmanship etc to little kids...it takes patience ! How many guys with pro or college experience do you see coaching 8 year old kids ? Why....because their experience is wasted on kids that young and coaching older kids is they can better share their insights and experience. But guess what, they wouldn't have many of the kids they have to select from the talent pool if it wasn't for those Dad coaches at the younger ages. I applaud all of the coaches, especially the non paid coaches whom work with our youth to teach this great game as well as life lessons.

BTW, I was one of the Dad coaches at the younger ages whom realized one day that my son had outgrown my knowledge of the game and that I had to seek someone with more experience and insight for my son to continue to develop. Did I contribute to who he is today as a ballplayer....your dang skippy I did ! Was I solely responsible for it...ABSOLUTELY NOT ! I'm just happy I got to play a role in his development, as well as all the other kids I coached !

My long winded point is there are all kinds of coaches out there. Do your homework and match your son/daughter with whom you think they will benefit the most from. Don't just discard folks because they are moms/dads coaching and don't just assume a cat with pro or college experience is best. Sometimes the most educated and experienced make the worst coaches ! Don't assume anything !
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peashooter

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Posted - 02/14/2012 :  13:37:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a suggestion. Scout the coaches out. Hang around tournaments and listen to the post game speaches. You may have to walk to the outfield grass (I think that is weak of the coaches who do that. I have no problem addressing the kids in front of the parents). Listen to what the coach says. Is it stuff like "we have to hit better, make less errors, bla bla bla" or do they frame the game in the context of life...lost opportunities, you only get one chance some times, overcoming fear, pointing out the fear based plays. I bet you find yourselves being able to point out 5 more things than most coaches...If you can't and you walk away with Wow, I learned some stuff from this speech, then that might be a good coaching candidate.

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M. Bare

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Posted - 02/15/2012 :  13:02:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pea, agree with you on most of your posts but your statement about coaches being "weak" if they have a team meeting after a game without including the parents is just ridiculous! Part of what you preach is teaching these kids life lessons through baseball so what do you think those meetings are? They are about being a part of a team who just did battle on the field, they are about building trust between a coach and his players. Parents have no business being involved in those, it's getting everyone prepared for how HS and college teams operate. This isn't rec ball anymore.
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excoach12

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Posted - 02/15/2012 :  15:43:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with Pea.
My son has been on numerous teams through rec and travel and we always had our meetings in the outfield away from the parents. When I started being the head guy I invited the parents to the post game meeting to hear what I was saying to their kids. The kids will tell them anyways so I preferred they heard it straight from me. I have nothing to hide. I am not ashamed of what I have to say.
And the parents love it. You should have seen the look on their faces when I waived them out to the meeting and asked them to attend the post game meetings so they can reinforce at home what I was about to say. Did anyone have an issue once or twice? Yup. Do they have the opportunity to leave if they do not like how I run the team? Yup. Have they left? Nope. Guess it works.
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peashooter

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Posted - 02/15/2012 :  19:27:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ex: yup exactly. Plus when the parents can hear you talk, they will also hear you tell Johnny xyz on why he won't get more time at 2b because he doesn't backup throws, or didn't hustle to first base on a popup, or won't pitch as much because he lobs the ball in stressful situations. I can hear the other meetings and post game now.
Parent: "Stevie, what did coach say?"
Stevie: "Nothing much, we need to hustle more."
When the coach said plenty.

These are kids, hell even 18U kids would struggle to listen and apply what the coach is saying.

My favorite thing is telling the kids something we have to work on then asking specific kids right at the end of the meeting.
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