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BaseballMom6
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 Posted - 04/13/2016 : 13:25:41
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bfriendly, my point about the ending is that it is to me, what makes it a Christian prayer(as would one that began with Lord, our Father, as I have only heard those phrases when observing Christian prayer. Having a moment of silence to you is PC, to me it is a matter of respect. A moment of reflection recognizes that Johnny may be Christian, and Stevie may be Jewish and others may worship differently, but they may all appreciate the time to pray/be thankful in their own way instead of being told how to pray.
I agree that you want to see sportsmanship at all times. But consider that after joining them the day before, perhaps the coach/parents/players were not comfortable with the process and decided as a team not to participate before the game ever started? He says nothing about poor behavior of the coach, that they all shook hands as expected, but that he turned down the invitation to pray.
My point is that sportsmanship does not begin or end with prayer, or how/when/if you pray. It starts/finishes with respect for the game, yourself, coaches, parents, teammates, opponents and umpires. |
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Hurricane
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Posted - 04/25/2016 : 15:44:12
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Originally posted by BamaDad
This discussion reminds me of a phrase that was repeated often when I was active in the military. The quote is "there are no atheists in foxholes". In other words, nobody really minds a prayer for safety on the battlefield regardless of who may or may not be on the other end. Of course with the kids, it's not that serious. It's a show of gratitude that everyone is okay. Most of all, no one is trying to convert anyone through a prayer of thanks for everyone being safe from harm.
So just to be clear Bama, you are fine with your son or daughter partaking in a prayer with someone of a Muslim, Jehovah Witness or Buddhist faith?
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bfriendly
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Posted - 04/26/2016 : 13:59:03
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Originally posted by Hurricane
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Originally posted by BamaDad
This discussion reminds me of a phrase that was repeated often when I was active in the military. The quote is "there are no atheists in foxholes". In other words, nobody really minds a prayer for safety on the battlefield regardless of who may or may not be on the other end. Of course with the kids, it's not that serious. It's a show of gratitude that everyone is okay. Most of all, no one is trying to convert anyone through a prayer of thanks for everyone being safe from harm.
So just to be clear Bama, you are fine with your son or daughter partaking in a prayer with someone of a Muslim, Jehovah Witness or Buddhist faith?
Thats not clear, its called spin.......Dont ever remember hearing a story of a "Foxhole Prayer" being aimed toward Alah.
I am sure kids with those religions do pray either before or after their games in their Way.........to theirs
BTW-Your Question has already been asked and answered. Some would find another team as I would so its OK, but we'll go elsewhere
BTW=we just got back from the Super NIT in SC. Right before the awards ceremony with both teams lined up, everyone bowed their heads and someone lead us in Prayer............It was Awesome and really had me appreciating everything the whole weekend was about! |
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Bergkamp10
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Posted - 04/26/2016 : 18:20:27
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I wouldn't worry about being forced to find another team. It's highly unlikely you will ever see anything other than a Christian prayer at a US baseball game just as you will likely only see a Hindu prayer at an Indian cricket game.
The dominant religion is entirely dictated by geography and tradition rather than theological "truth". One of the most persuasive arguments against religion is how many Gods there are (and have been). Either there is only one God, multiple Gods or no Gods. Whichever God you end up with is mostly dictated by where you are born and how you were raised.
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Originally posted by bfriendly
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Originally posted by Hurricane
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Originally posted by BamaDad
This discussion reminds me of a phrase that was repeated often when I was active in the military. The quote is "there are no atheists in foxholes". In other words, nobody really minds a prayer for safety on the battlefield regardless of who may or may not be on the other end. Of course with the kids, it's not that serious. It's a show of gratitude that everyone is okay. Most of all, no one is trying to convert anyone through a prayer of thanks for everyone being safe from harm.
So just to be clear Bama, you are fine with your son or daughter partaking in a prayer with someone of a Muslim, Jehovah Witness or Buddhist faith?
Thats not clear, its called spin.......Dont ever remember hearing a story of a "Foxhole Prayer" being aimed toward Alah.
I am sure kids with those religions do pray either before or after their games in their Way.........to theirs
BTW-Your Question has already been asked and answered. Some would find another team as I would so its OK, but we'll go elsewhere
BTW=we just got back from the Super NIT in SC. Right before the awards ceremony with both teams lined up, everyone bowed their heads and someone lead us in Prayer............It was Awesome and really had me appreciating everything the whole weekend was about!
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bfriendly
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Posted - 04/27/2016 : 21:48:30
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It certainly does make a difference where you were born and who your parents are. I was born in The US of A and we were founded "Under God"(the same as mine).
I think we even use that quote in a few different Patriotic instances. Now whats that little phrase on our Money...........oh yea, "In God We Trust".
I assure you when our country was being put together, the great men who put their lives on the line for Freedom sake, Prayed to God Almighty to help them make the right decisions.
I almost feel like an American, when we pray before or after Sports |
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