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watchingbaseball
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Posted - 03/03/2016 : 14:20:28
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CHECK TIME LIMITS AND RUN RULE
Make sure you check about run rule and time limits for the tournament you enter
Many tournament have shorter game time limits ( :55 to 1:45 )
COACH PITCH
If your a coach pitch team , watch out for a run rule . Most tournaments are mathematical since it has a 7-run limit per inning
USSSA uses (15) after 3 and (8) after 4 BPA uses (12) after 3 and (10) after 4 Using these run rules game can end early ( :35 min games ) and still anybody's game
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bfriendly
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Posted - 03/03/2016 : 17:50:40
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Thats a good point watchingbaseball.......I'd add that if there is a run ruled(which frequently happens) game, the next game may start early so be ready! Dont whine about starting 15 minutes early if the game before you ended earlier than expected. The team should have easily been ready and eager to hit the field anywho |
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oneZone
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Posted - 03/04/2016 : 13:23:17
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The time limit is important, and not just to avoid a potentially unpleasant or embarrassing mid-game surprise. It can really change your approach to a game, especially in terms of pitching.
BUT, to me the most interesting impact of a time limit is when those last few minutes are ticking away, and Team A has a better chance of beating Team B if they can just get the clock to 00:00.
There are a variety of opinions on what's right or wrong when it comes to stalling to secure the win ... what's your opinion?
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Edited by - oneZone on 03/04/2016 14:06:54 |
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CaCO3Girl
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Posted - 03/04/2016 : 15:16:33
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quote: Originally posted by oneZone
The time limit is important, and not just to avoid a potentially unpleasant or embarrassing mid-game surprise. It can really change your approach to a game, especially in terms of pitching.
BUT, to me the most interesting impact of a time limit is when those last few minutes are ticking away, and Team A has a better chance of beating Team B if they can just get the clock to 00:00.
There are a variety of opinions on what's right or wrong when it comes to stalling to secure the win ... what's your opinion?
My opinion, I like to see the boys play, so pool play I say just move onto the next inning and try your luck. Now, if it's bracket play I like to take advantage of rules that help the team and let the boys play longer (within reason). If they have to run the clock out an extra 30-120 seconds I say go for it. Have the pitcher change balls, have the catcher accidentally throw over the pitcher and 2B has to walk it back to the pitcher, pitch out to the kid at bat...etc
If it's more than 2 minutes then you should just play. Nothing aggravates me more than a coach coming out to "discuss" a call that was night and day clear just to waste the time. Or a coach telling a kid to slide back into 1B, or into 2B, and "PRETEND"to be hurt. I think a coach getting involved in the time wasting is wrong. |
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Hurricane
351 Posts |
Posted - 03/24/2016 : 14:13:30
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I say limit the games to an inning less and have no time limits, but keep the run rules. In HS and College even pros, there is not time limit to save a team, by wasting time, stepping out the box every pitch, untying shoes on deck to go up and have to waste time tying them. |
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HeyBlue
92 Posts |
Posted - 03/24/2016 : 16:55:54
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quote: Originally posted by Hurricane
I say limit the games to an inning less and have no time limits, but keep the run rules. In HS and College even pros, there is not time limit to save a team, by wasting time, stepping out the box every pitch, untying shoes on deck to go up and have to waste time tying them.
College Showcase tournaments still have a time limit |
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743
215 Posts |
Posted - 03/25/2016 : 15:01:32
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College Showcase? You mean one of those College Money Grabs? Where everyone pays money to have their teams looked at by Colleges or you talking about College Teams playing? If its just high school aged kids playing it's just a glorified travel tournament like PG. When I said no time limits for HS and College and pro I mean sanctioned by the GHSA or whatever state where playing for your school is more important than paying to enter a tournament. The Tournament in Cary North Carolina Team USA Facility going on right now that Walton and Allatoona are participating in does not have time limits. |
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bfriendly
376 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2016 : 08:52:47
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quote: Originally posted by CaCO3Girl
quote: Originally posted by oneZone
The time limit is important, and not just to avoid a potentially unpleasant or embarrassing mid-game surprise. It can really change your approach to a game, especially in terms of pitching.
BUT, to me the most interesting impact of a time limit is when those last few minutes are ticking away, and Team A has a better chance of beating Team B if they can just get the clock to 00:00.
There are a variety of opinions on what's right or wrong when it comes to stalling to secure the win ... what's your opinion?
My opinion, I like to see the boys play, so pool play I say just move onto the next inning and try your luck. Now, if it's bracket play I like to take advantage of rules that help the team and let the boys play longer (within reason). If they have to run the clock out an extra 30-120 seconds I say go for it. Have the pitcher change balls, have the catcher accidentally throw over the pitcher and 2B has to walk it back to the pitcher, pitch out to the kid at bat...etc
If it's more than 2 minutes then you should just play. Nothing aggravates me more than a coach coming out to "discuss" a call that was night and day clear just to waste the time. Or a coach telling a kid to slide back into 1B, or into 2B, and "PRETEND"to be hurt. I think a coach getting involved in the time wasting is wrong.
I haven't seen any type of "Pretend" acts or anything that frivolous. But I have seen a coach(including one from our past), perform time wasting acts. Changing pitchers comes to mind and the unquestionable questionable call does too. I have also seen a coach try to make a third out(with a runner and a batter) in order to "start" another inning as the chances seemed better with a new one, than the hopes of getting it done with 2 outs.
I agree it would be great if there was no time limit......it raises the intensity level when there is one, but its not necessary as the running out of innings will do the same. |
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teddy41
421 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2016 : 08:21:24
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make sure the umps have a timer that counts backwards and you hear the BEEP..many of these guys will cut the game off with a minute or so remaining under the assumption A> the home team wont win if we start another inning.B. we get paid by the game..C tourney is behind scheudle lets move it along |
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HeyBlue
92 Posts |
Posted - 03/30/2016 : 13:36:28
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quote: Originally posted by 743
College Showcase? You mean one of those College Money Grabs? Where everyone pays money to have their teams looked at by Colleges or you talking about College Teams playing? If its just high school aged kids playing it's just a glorified travel tournament like PG. When I said no time limits for HS and College and pro I mean sanctioned by the GHSA or whatever state where playing for your school is more important than paying to enter a tournament. The Tournament in Cary North Carolina Team USA Facility going on right now that Walton and Allatoona are participating in does not have time limits.
Granted those are not GHSA sanctioned. We occasionally do have JV/V double headers with a drop dead time limit. It is a GHSA sanctioned game, but does go against GHSA/NFHS guidelines. So do the JV Double headers that are shortened to 5 innings. |
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HeyBlue
92 Posts |
Posted - 03/30/2016 : 13:44:00
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Some tourneys have a no new inning with less than 5 minutes.
I have had to start a new inning with less than 10 seconds to go. |
Edited by - HeyBlue on 03/30/2016 14:28:07 |
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teddy41
421 Posts |
Posted - 03/30/2016 : 22:10:44
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clock dont lie..nice one blue love it |
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