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Dr. Old School
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 Posted - 07/08/2009 : 06:51:00
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I would say that 99% of the people commenting on here have never played for a non-dad coach. While the concept seems good, and in a utopian world there would be no favoritism, in reality there still many times is. They just don't share the same last name.
The important thing is to find a coach that is going to develop players and make them better, whether they have a son on the team or not. Understand how they organize practices, manage games, and how they use ALL their players on the team. |
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jacketsports
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Posted - 07/08/2009 : 11:52:10
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| my two cents is there are really good dad coaches and really good non dad coaches. there are also awful dad coaches and awful non-dad coaches, so it is a case by case basis. I will say that I have coached youth sports for 25 years and in the first 20 with no kid on the team I had great teams that gave me everything they had and we won 5 state championships with no complaints. In the last 5 years the kids have given me everything they have and we have got better and played good ball but with my kid on the team there have been many complaints. either I have forgot how to coach or maybe just maybe parents are the ones who have the problem with coaches who have kids on the team?!?!? JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT |
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bballman
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Posted - 07/08/2009 : 12:29:06
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My son played 5 years travel with Dad coaches (11, 12 twice, 13 and 14). Generally, there were very few problems with this. Coach (except one year) was generally harder on his son than most others on the team. There were the usual issues that come up with being a travel team, but not alot dealing with Daddy ball. The last 3 years were with the same team and we were happy with the situation.
This year, as a 15 yr. old, we are playing for a non-dad coaching staff. This coach has really focused more on the development of the kids and getting them ready to compete at the varsity level next year. We have played up all year playing either 16 yr. old teams or HS Varsity teams. All kids have had the opportunity to play and improve. Believe it or not, there have still been complaints. Some parents on the team think the coach should be playing more to win. "Why isn't so and so playing?" "Why does he put that kid in?" "If someone isn't performing, they shouldn't be out there." etc... Many of these complaints come from parents of kids who are in the game almost every play. Personally, I get tired of hearing the complaints. This coach has a plan in terms of developing players, learning all the players himself so when we get in a tournament to win he knows what he is dealing with and many other factors. He wants to get all the kids ready to perform at the highest level on their HS teams. But there are still those who are not happy.
My point is, no matter who you get to coach or how good that coach is, there will be those who don't like what is going on for some reason. This coach is highly respected with MANY players who have gone on to play College and Pro ball. Still, parents not all happy. By the way, these coaches are not paid. Team pays for their travel expenses and that is it. They do it because they love working with the kids.
I think families should work hard to find a good coach with a solid track record and trust their judgement. There are a ton of Dad coaches out there who are very good. Without them, no way there would be enough coaches for all our kids to play. Dad, non-Dad, paid, not paid - makes no difference. Find the right coach, go with it and try hard not to be a complainer. |
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jay
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Posted - 07/08/2009 : 13:29:12
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Originally posted by jacketsports
my two cents is there .... maybe just maybe parents are the ones who have the problem with coaches who have kids on the team?!?!? JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT
Bingo! Buy that man a diet coke.
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whits23
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Posted - 07/10/2009 : 14:43:28
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| i need a paid coach to help with an 13/14 team with practices (pitching-hitting) if anyone knows a reasonable one |
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loveforthegame25
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Posted - 07/10/2009 : 22:36:30
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23, you just narrowed the field, "reasonable one" counts us out |
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coachdan06
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Posted - 07/11/2009 : 02:35:36
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Originally posted by jacketsports
my two cents is there are really good dad coaches and really good non dad coaches. there are also awful dad coaches and awful non-dad coaches, so it is a case by case basis. I will say that I have coached youth sports for 25 years and in the first 20 with no kid on the team I had great teams that gave me everything they had and we won 5 state championships with no complaints. In the last 5 years the kids have given me everything they have and we have got better and played good ball but with my kid on the team there have been many complaints. either I have forgot how to coach or maybe just maybe parents are the ones who have the problem with coaches who have kids on the team?!?!? JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT
Jacket you are the not the problem coach .
That coach is the one who knowingly and without shame favors his son and friends cause after all look at all the free time I put in so give me a break willya ?
He coaches not primarily because of enjoyment but to advance his son you might could say to even protect his son cause he probably don't make the team without Dad being coach.
C'mon we all know these Coaches but rare is is the instance when they will admit their motives which causes then more resentment.
I coached nephews so didn't have real blood involved but the temptation to favor them over other players did exist at times.
I wouldn't do it because it wasn't fair to everyone nor would anyone be fooled even them and all there team mates after age 9 or 10.
I didn't claim the right to favor them just because of my free time being volunteered at the field! Coaching is a privilege not a bargaining chip .
Play it total honest and fair in your heart without favor-tisms and what one else may say wont be important.
Best to all
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