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baseballbrad
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 Posted - 04/27/2009 : 10:10:43
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Holly Springs beat Longhorns and then we lost to a very good Ga Grip team 12-9.We had our chances but commited way too many errors to win.The grip are definately one of the better teams in the state.Our hats our off to them for winning the tournament.Their pitcher in the championship game pitched a gem.
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Originally posted by Reggie
how did the horns and holly springs end up? heard about both of these teams.
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TAZ980002
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Posted - 04/27/2009 : 10:42:21
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Before a bunch of folks start hammering this kid's coaches and parents for letting him throw "hooks" I want to give you guys some information on this pitch. He has been taught to throw a 12-6 curve ball WITHOUT throwing it the traditional way. At no time does he snap his wrist or rotate him arm in a way that will cause damage like a traditional curve ball would. I've confirmed this with a Sports related orthopedic surgeon and a an MLB scout/pitching coach that still teaches kids to pitch today. His arm finishes in the same position that it would if he had thrown a fastball which makes the pitch even more effective.
I know there are still going to be skeptics but we have done careful research and if an expert told me it was going to cause damage, he would stop immediately.
BTW Shutout, thanks for the kind words about his performance.
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Originally posted by Shut Out
I saw the 2nd half of the 643/Grip game. What pitching from both teams. The kid from the grip was the best i've seen this year. I was a little disappointed with the amount of hooks he was throwing (however; they were unbeliveable hooks!) The defense from both teams was stout. 643 turned one of the prettiest 4-6-3 double plays i have seen from any team 10's - 12's this year. Maybe they should change their names to the 463DP Cougars? This was the first time i've seen the grip play this year and they are for real. Good sticks, fundamental d, and serious ace on the mound. Nation's baseball got a good one for the championship game. Wish i would have seen more of the tourney as i heard there were a lot of good games through out.
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baseballpapa
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Posted - 04/27/2009 : 13:41:56
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Congratulations to the Grip. Glad to see you coming on strong as it says much for your kids and coaches. Gives us Bandits another reason to get back to Atlanta before you big dogs start marking off our territory. Good news travels fast and if you were flying below the radar before this weekend you are now officially on the radar screen. You are the big blip in the center.
This win was huge for you and your kids and we look forward to seeing you.
Good Luck
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bmoser
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Posted - 04/28/2009 : 09:27:56
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Most of Georgia's 10U Major teams talent pools have run dry while the Grip can barely see the bottom of theirs. I know what else is out there for them, and trust me, they are a Ferrari in 3rd gear.
VROOM!
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clubhousebaseball1
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Posted - 04/28/2009 : 11:21:43
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| As you can tell from any court system in the world, you can find an expert to tell you anything you want to hear. In order to get the ball to rotate and move as a "hook" does, you myst spin it. I have been around MLB my whole life and this is a new one. It's his arm, I just hate to see a boy with this much talent be ruined for 10 year old baseball. I have seen him throw in tournaments before. He breaks his wrist. Good Luck. |
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baseballpapa
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Posted - 04/28/2009 : 12:20:01
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| I don't know what well you are looking in Mr. Moser but the North Georgia area is known for deep water. We have many options that we are looking into. We have been down this road before. The only way we will know for sure is to keep playing. The Bandits should be back in a couple of weeks and we plan on retaking the hill. The Grip had better get a good hold, (I mean grip) as we will try to push them off our mountain. Just kidding but it does make for good reading. |
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baseballpapa
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Posted - 04/28/2009 : 12:24:09
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| I absolutely disagree with Clubhouse. He is wrong and if I had to listen to a specialist in this field and someone that is obviously only speculating, I will always go with the specialist. I have seen this pitch and the wrist does not appear to be breaking. It is nasty but all 4 of the Bandits throw something similiar and none are breaking their wrists. |
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TAZ980002
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Posted - 04/28/2009 : 14:09:30
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Whoa bmoser !!! The Grip has always appreciated your support and encouragement but the truth is we have only won 1 tournament with the level of competition that we enjoyed this past weekend. Every team in that tourney could have beaten us at any given time. We are a very young team that will hopefully continue to gel but we are not staking claim to anything more than the first place plaque we just won. Too many good teams out their to get too excited just yet.
Thanks again for all your support though.
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Originally posted by bmoser
Most of Georgia's 10U Major teams talent pools have run dry while the Grip can barely see the bottom of theirs. I know what else is out there for them, and trust me, they are a Ferrari in 3rd gear.
VROOM!
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TAZ980002
831 Posts |
Posted - 04/28/2009 : 14:41:19
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We have seen him throw it on video again, and again, and again, ... in slow motion. He doesn't break his wrist.
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Originally posted by clubhousebaseball1
I have seen him throw in tournaments before. He breaks his wrist. Good Luck.
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Baseball
111 Posts |
Posted - 04/28/2009 : 14:47:04
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Baseball Papa....How would you rank the North Georgia Lightening and North Georgia Cougar Teams from the North Georgia area?
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Originally posted by baseballpapa
I don't know what well you are looking in Mr. Moser but the North Georgia area is known for deep water. We have many options that we are looking into. We have been down this road before. The only way we will know for sure is to keep playing. The Bandits should be back in a couple of weeks and we plan on retaking the hill. The Grip had better get a good hold, (I mean grip) as we will try to push them off our mountain. Just kidding but it does make for good reading.
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bmoser
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Posted - 04/28/2009 : 14:59:04
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Two great teams with all the ingredients we all strive for; great boys, great Coaches, and great families supporting the effort. Lots of simiarities between these 2 teams. Biggest difference is that one has been around for a long time, and the other is the new kid on the block. I hope I'm there to see it.
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Originally posted by baseballpapa
I don't know what well you are looking in Mr. Moser but the North Georgia area is known for deep water. We have many options that we are looking into. We have been down this road before. The only way we will know for sure is to keep playing. The Bandits should be back in a couple of weeks and we plan on retaking the hill. The Grip had better get a good hold, (I mean grip) as we will try to push them off our mountain. Just kidding but it does make for good reading.
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Tball
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Posted - 04/28/2009 : 15:51:40
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| Clubhouse, I have not seen this boy throw. However it is not hard to throw a ball that breaks without a snap of the wrist. This pitch is thrown with the EXACT same arm motion as a fastball!!!! |
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clubhousebaseball1
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Posted - 04/28/2009 : 16:47:44
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| I moved here from Florida and have seen some fantastic ball players at this age. I have talked to a lot of fathers who have told me the same thing as I am hearing here. I know a few of them are not playing any longer. Which in my opinion is sad. You may think I am speculating, which is fine, but basic physics will tell you a ball will not curve without it spinning. I simply am saying I will not let my son throw anything close to a hook at this age. I feel if you are really good, I go back to location, location, location in this age. A good fastball that can be placed and a good change up. Why take a chance for 10 year old kids? Does not make any sens eto me, but then again, he is not my child. |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 04/28/2009 : 18:38:42
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| I know that we would enjoy getting on the field with the Grip. As everyone knows we chase the best. Bandits bloodhounds are out and looking to find the Grip but they will have to wait a couple of weeks to see us. We are still up in the hills of Tennessee and North Alabama the next couple of weeks and then we plan on returning and checking this new phenom out. Did they eat the Scorpions as I have not heard anything about the Scorpions since my boy got hurt. Did they take a week off and I hear they may be up in Nashville with the Bandits this weekend. |
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baseballpapa
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Posted - 04/28/2009 : 18:40:58
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| Both are loaded with talent and appear to be ready to make a charge up the hill. We have been successful against both of these teams but it is because we know we must always play our best or we will come away with a defeat. |
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bmoser
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Posted - 04/28/2009 : 22:22:12
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I wasn't even talking about what the team has done, I was eluding to what they have yet to become.
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Originally posted by jc1964
Whoa bmoser !!! The Grip has always appreciated your support and encouragement but the truth is we have only won 1 tournament with the level of competition that we enjoyed this past weekend. Every team in that tourney could have beaten us at any given time. We are a very young team that will hopefully continue to gel but we are not staking claim to anything more than the first place plaque we just won. Too many good teams out their to get too excited just yet.
Thanks again for all your support though.
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Originally posted by bmoser
Most of Georgia's 10U Major teams talent pools have run dry while the Grip can barely see the bottom of theirs. I know what else is out there for them, and trust me, they are a Ferrari in 3rd gear.
VROOM!
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Baseball
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Posted - 04/29/2009 : 08:53:33
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Thanks for the information Baseball Papa. I ask because the EC Bulldogs defeated both teams in Sunday bracket play to win the tournament at Jack Mattox this past weekend and was not certain as to the calibur of these 2 teams.
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Both are loaded with talent and appear to be ready to make a charge up the hill. We have been successful against both of these teams but it is because we know we must always play our best or we will come away with a defeat.
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Nations Baseball tourney this week - 10u
