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leftfielddad
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 Posted - 08/20/2015 : 10:07:51
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Originally posted by bballman
The batter's mechanics, contact and power has already been evaluated and the walk isn't going to hurt him. Like I said, for position guys, a determination has already been made prior to the games.
So, let me get this straight. It's entirely possible that a players hitting/batting scores are 100% attributed to the 60mph BP he participated in rather than him up at the plate trying to hit an 85+mph ball, or a curve, or a ball specifically thrown so as to not be hit? So really they are just looking at a players swing not if he can actually hit a real pitch?
CaCO3Girl, you are correct. From what I learned from recruiters what they want to see is your set up at the box including how you load, your swing plane, if you have a short swing compact swing or long swing. They also want to see your bat speed if they have the radar gun there. I also learned that they like true switch hitters especially if the switch hitter has speed. |
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Newbie BB Mom
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Posted - 08/20/2015 : 10:16:14
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Originally posted by CaCO3Girl
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Originally posted by bballman
The batter's mechanics, contact and power has already been evaluated and the walk isn't going to hurt him. Like I said, for position guys, a determination has already been made prior to the games.
So, let me get this straight. It's entirely possible that a players hitting/batting scores are 100% attributed to the 60mph BP he participated in rather than him up at the plate trying to hit an 85+mph ball, or a curve, or a ball specifically thrown so as to not be hit? So really they are just looking at a players swing not if he can actually hit a real pitch?
This is a bit of a hijack, but this reminds me of another thread a few years ago. A guy that had played in the minors -- peashooter -- posted that pro scouts could care less about fundamentals and all they look for is raw abilities, which cannot be taught.
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Funnyhop... Pro scouts don't care about fundamentals. Don't kid yourself. I played with players up until AA that could not catch a fly ball, could not throw accurately from the outfield, could not catch a ground ball at 3rb. Why were they in pro ball? They had bat speed, and could run fast. Sorry, Them's the apples. It is as simple as that. You can't coach speed, batspeed, and arm strength. Everything else is coachable. I don't agree with this, it is just reality. I honestly would have taken my HS infield over guys I had with the Expos up until AA. Heck my infield broke records for errors in a single season in Burlington Iowa. Our SS and 3B both had an insanely high amount of errors.
Here's the thread (which is really interesting for a lot of other reasons), but I've always remembered peashooter's observation (which appears on page 3):
http://www.nwgabaseball.org/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6454
Perhaps that is what college recruiters are looking for as well? |
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rippit
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Posted - 08/20/2015 : 10:41:43
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Player Reports and Web Pages are being generated daily. It is a slow process as we are loading photos and reports to individual pages. We are working day and night to get them loaded. We have over 60 in the system. Georgia Players can go to www.baseballscoutz.com click player rankings up top then once you get to that page look to the left click your grad class and a list will pop down the left side. Check each night if you are not up yet. Florida and Alabama guys will have the same landing site but with your respective state listed.
We appreciate your attendance. Over 40 NCAA and NJCAA Recruiting Coordinators or Head Coaches attended not Graduate assistants like some have insinuated. Also, report documentation came from full time MLB Scouts. We go out of our way to make sure you get a great look. These guys sit in there and stay every game. We had some really good players attend and look forward to assisting you with your recruiting. If there is anything you need please email or call we will do our best to assist.
Ummmmmm...you have 50 and this email was sent two days ago.
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bballman
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Posted - 08/20/2015 : 11:08:22
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Originally posted by CaCO3Girl
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Originally posted by bballman
The batter's mechanics, contact and power has already been evaluated and the walk isn't going to hurt him. Like I said, for position guys, a determination has already been made prior to the games.
So, let me get this straight. It's entirely possible that a players hitting/batting scores are 100% attributed to the 60mph BP he participated in rather than him up at the plate trying to hit an 85+mph ball, or a curve, or a ball specifically thrown so as to not be hit? So really they are just looking at a players swing not if he can actually hit a real pitch?
Basically, yes. However, no scout/recruiter will make a final decision on a player after having seen him only once. This initial evaluation will put you on a list. They will want to see the player again. Usually, this second and third look will come during a PG event when the scouts/recruiters are all there. They will be in contact with players they are interested in and ask for a schedule of when the player will be playing.
I know a lot of you guys don't get it, but this really is how it works. I know this, I could sit at a showcase and within the first hour, if that, tell which kids I thought were baseball players and which guys are not. And these scouts/recruiters are much better than me. The narrowing down of who a scout/recruiter is interested in starts in the first couple minutes of seeing them. Once they have weeded out 90% of the players there, then they watch a little more closely what the player does after that. The player will either stay on the "interested" list, or be taken off. If they stay on the list, then more follow up in actual games is required.
The showcase is there to get on a scout/recruiter's "interested" list. It is usually not the only thing that will get you recruited. Just the first step.
The whole recruiting game is extremely competitive. Believe me, there are a LOT more kids who want to play college ball then there are spots available on college rosters. As I stated earlier, not every kid who plays college baseball is an absolute stud. There are many levels of college baseball. The studs will be picked up early by the big D1s. Everyone else will be competing against a TON of kids for those lower level D1, D2, D3, JUCO and NAIA spots. First impressions do matter. |
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bballman
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Posted - 08/20/2015 : 11:37:43
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Originally posted by rippit
Player Reports and Web Pages are being generated daily. It is a slow process as we are loading photos and reports to individual pages. We are working day and night to get them loaded. We have over 60 in the system. Georgia Players can go to www.baseballscoutz.com click player rankings up top then once you get to that page look to the left click your grad class and a list will pop down the left side. Check each night if you are not up yet. Florida and Alabama guys will have the same landing site but with your respective state listed.
We appreciate your attendance. Over 40 NCAA and NJCAA Recruiting Coordinators or Head Coaches attended not Graduate assistants like some have insinuated. Also, report documentation came from full time MLB Scouts. We go out of our way to make sure you get a great look. These guys sit in there and stay every game. We had some really good players attend and look forward to assisting you with your recruiting. If there is anything you need please email or call we will do our best to assist.
Ummmmmm...you have 50 and this email was sent two days ago.
If you do a PG showcase, expect 4 to 6 weeks for your full report to be posted... Just sayin'. This stuff cannot be generated overnight. |
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in_the_know
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Posted - 08/20/2015 : 11:44:04
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Originally posted by CaCO3Girl
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Originally posted by bballman
The batter's mechanics, contact and power has already been evaluated and the walk isn't going to hurt him. Like I said, for position guys, a determination has already been made prior to the games.
So, let me get this straight. It's entirely possible that a players hitting/batting scores are 100% attributed to the 60mph BP he participated in rather than him up at the plate trying to hit an 85+mph ball, or a curve, or a ball specifically thrown so as to not be hit? So really they are just looking at a players swing not if he can actually hit a real pitch?
Don't confuse getting on someone's radar with getting an offer.
What scouts are looking for in the "combine" style events are the tools that "may" translate to being a player. Once on someone's radar, they will typically be seen multiple times afterward which may or may not lead to an offer. My son received multiple offers. Each were different. Here's how two of them came to be so you can get an understanding of how it worked.
Offer 1: The school had seen him play at a PG tournament at a young age (before freshman HS year) and been in touch with him for about a year. They saw him play in PG tournaments after his Freshman HS year and wanted him to make an unofficial visit and see the campus and go to a football game. As it turned out, we couldn't make that schedule work, so we decided to attend one of their winter camps. He stood out at the camp. No one other than the hitting coach and HC knew who he was, but I had multiple parents come up to me asking about his playing history, so I knew that he had definitely separated himself from the others. As bballman pointed out, there was every level of talent at this camp (well over 200 campers), from rec level to a few D1 prospects. There were kids in John Deere hats simply there for the shirt. My son stood out in the 60, BP and fielding drills. Most of the camp was indoors because of the weather. They took BP on the field. There was no scrimmage (because of weather). We left with a very good D1 offer to a school that has been to Omaha recently. In the case of this school, they had already seen some game performance, and his camp performance validated what they had seen.
Offer 2: My son had never done a showcase, but was invited to one that is a invitation only event (PG Jr National). His performance in the 60, BP and OF stood out. In the scrimmage, he only had one hit. On the second day, the ump was speaking with him between innings and told him he remembered him from day 1 and liked the way he handled himself at the plate. He actually apologized to him that he had been calling such a large zone. In the umps words, they have to in order to keep the showcase moving. Makes perfect sense, but in this case, you already have the top pitchers in the country now being given an additional advantage in the interest of keeping things moving. Guess what, all the scouts there are aware of this and are looking or tools and skills, not necessarily live performance.
His performance caught the attention of several schools and began contact with them. Some of those schools previously had some interest in him, but this school in particular did not have him on their radar previously. The RC and HC began showing up at almost all of his games after the event. We made an unofficial visit to the school and they made an offer. They continued to attend most of his games the remainder of the summer. Once on their radar, they saw plenty of live game action against good and not so good talent. They saw him do very well and very poorly over the summer, but they saw him....a lot.
So in both cases, the coaches were able to see him display tools in a controlled environment AND against live competition outside of the controlled environment.
The outcome of any showcase can and will be similar. It's an opportunity for someone who matters to put a check mark next to a kids name and begin watching him. There will be plenty of opportunity for your kid to show out against good competition during live action IF your son displays the tools and skills at the showcase and commands the follow-up. Remember, these scouts and recruiters are there to find players. They want to find players. They're looking for players to follow. The only thing that is consistent from showcase to showcase is the combine activity that gives the opportunity for a player to showcase his tools.
I'd worry less about the "live" portion of Scoutz or any showcase for that matter as you and the host have little control over how the competition level may be. I would agree that they overstated the caliber of attendees a good bit in their marketing. I looked at the list of attendees and recognized very few names. I'm familiar with most of the top players in the area and they weren't there. My son received an invite, but we had no reason to attend since he's already committed. Likely the same with many other top players around. As to the comments about trading mail lists to get recruiting coordinators to attend; who cares how they get them there? Your goal is to get your kid in front of these guys. If you showed up, and the guys who matter were there, mission accomplished.
I certainly see rippit's point that they overstated the caliber of attendees, but that's marketing. I have no doubt that 200 attendees of this event have signed to play college. Like bballman mentioned, East Georgia State and Bait College counts just as much as Vanderbilt in that metric.
I think that the displeasure over this event is the large gap in expectations. Consider my comments above and set your expectations accordingly of what a showcase is intended to deliver. I haven't asked before, but will find out from some RC's how much weight they put into the live scrimmage action vs. the "combine" activity. My guess is the combine is where they're looking for tools and if they see them, they'll watch in the future to see if those translate into game performance. |
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rippit
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Posted - 08/20/2015 : 12:31:19
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bballman - not to beat a dead horse but with limited resources and availability, we feel this particular venue was a waste of time and misleading from the beginning.
Our best successes have been making contacts ahead of time, letting the HC/RC know of my son's interest in their school, sending any known schedule to them etc. and then praying they respond - some do, some don't - then praying they show up and that the powers in charge of the team THAT GAME actually put my son in the game. Sitting in a dugout because you have to share time with another guy at your position SUX when everybody isn't on the same page.
He had other options the weekend of the BS deal, yet we trusted this organization to run a quality deal and spent $249 plus $20 gate fees plus 2 nights hotel plus 2 dinners and 3 lunches and gas on a 4 hour drive each way. He got stuck playing a position he doesn't normally play, we still haven't been given an explanation as to why. I've gone over the rosters and noted that some teams were overloaded at certain positions while other teams barely had 1 guy for the same position. WHY?
Bad organization is why.
Look, I know how it is supposed to work. In this situation it didn't and I've yet to get anything but excuses from BS.
Total waste of a weekend and money that could have been spent elsewhere.
BUYER BEWARE. SMOKE AND MIRRORS. |
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leftfielddad
16 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2015 : 12:44:10
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| On the lighter side of the conversation, we just received an email from CSAPrepstar and the message actually contained the blank spaces where the name goes. I was actually embarrassed for this company and I laugh about it now. |
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dad4kids
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Posted - 08/20/2015 : 14:19:38
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This is all excellent and helpful information and I appreciate you posting it.
I don't know why anyone's surprised that these situations occur given the interest and money involved. These scouting/showcase entities are obviously in it for a profit so it's in their economic distinterest to turn people away. All other things being equal, they'll err on the side of overinclucsion and profit. Seems like that is just part of the typical part of the process of matching up players with schools/teams. |
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CaCO3Girl
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Posted - 08/20/2015 : 15:35:17
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in_the_know...thank you for that VERY detailed explanation, I understand much more now than I did.
bballman and rippit...you guys are going to have to agree to disagree. You both have VERY valid points.
leftfielddad....i think I about choked on my Mt. Dew, too funny!
dad4kids...not sure I know of a single company who isn't out to make money, even the non-profits have to remain somewhat profitable. I think it is all a matter of did the consumer feel their money was wisely spent, in rippits case they feel their money could have been used more wisely elsewhere, and they are entitled to their opinion.
I learned a lot more about showcases than I ever knew before so thank you ALL! |
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rippit
667 Posts |
Posted - 08/23/2015 : 10:51:03
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It's now been three days since the email copied and pasted was sent and BS website still only has 56 players ranked which still isn't the 60 they lied about on the 20th.
And don't tell me it doesn't matter if you hit or not in the games. At least one kid over there has his 0/5 in his write up. If it doesn't matter, why would you put that in there?
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Originally posted by rippit
Player Reports and Web Pages are being generated daily. It is a slow process as we are loading photos and reports to individual pages. We are working day and night to get them loaded. We have over 60 in the system. Georgia Players can go to www.baseballscoutz.com click player rankings up top then once you get to that page look to the left click your grad class and a list will pop down the left side. Check each night if you are not up yet. Florida and Alabama guys will have the same landing site but with your respective state listed.
We appreciate your attendance. Over 40 NCAA and NJCAA Recruiting Coordinators or Head Coaches attended not Graduate assistants like some have insinuated. Also, report documentation came from full time MLB Scouts. We go out of our way to make sure you get a great look. These guys sit in there and stay every game. We had some really good players attend and look forward to assisting you with your recruiting. If there is anything you need please email or call we will do our best to assist.
Ummmmmm...you have 50 and this email was sent two days ago.
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in_the_know
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Posted - 08/23/2015 : 16:59:11
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Originally posted by rippit
It's now been three days since the email copied and pasted was sent and BS website still only has 56 players ranked which still isn't the 60 they lied about on the 20th.
And don't tell me it doesn't matter if you hit or not in the games. At least one kid over there has his 0/5 in his write up. If it doesn't matter, why would you put that in there?
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Originally posted by rippit
Player Reports and Web Pages are being generated daily. It is a slow process as we are loading photos and reports to individual pages. We are working day and night to get them loaded. We have over 60 in the system. Georgia Players can go to www.baseballscoutz.com click player rankings up top then once you get to that page look to the left click your grad class and a list will pop down the left side. Check each night if you are not up yet. Florida and Alabama guys will have the same landing site but with your respective state listed.
We appreciate your attendance. Over 40 NCAA and NJCAA Recruiting Coordinators or Head Coaches attended not Graduate assistants like some have insinuated. Also, report documentation came from full time MLB Scouts. We go out of our way to make sure you get a great look. These guys sit in there and stay every game. We had some really good players attend and look forward to assisting you with your recruiting. If there is anything you need please email or call we will do our best to assist.
Ummmmmm...you have 50 and this email was sent two days ago.
You can choose to believe what you want regarding the live game action. This may fall on deaf ears, but the reality is that the recruiting coordinators, that is, the people you are most interested in, aren't the ones doing the write-ups. You're putting WAAAAY too much emphasis on the stats. The college scouts could tell which players were legit based on the combine activity. The live action may or may not have confirmed, it, but they got on a radar (or didn't) based largely on the controlled environment.
You also seem extremely focused on them getting their results posted quickly. I'd be more interested in them getting them right and the quality of the assessment. The Perfect Game showcase write-ups typically take a month or more to complete and post. They are written, then crosschecked across multiple sets of notes from multiple sets of PG staff. They tweak accordingly.
I believe that everyone gets that you feel ripped off from this event and want to vent. I don't believe that mine or anyone else's advice will sway your opinion on the matter, so we'll agree to disagree. The only reason for my input is to allow others reading this understand how these showcases work so that there is some balance in the perspective. |
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bballman
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Posted - 08/23/2015 : 20:03:39
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Originally posted by in_the_know
You can choose to believe what you want regarding the live game action. This may fall on deaf ears, but the reality is that the recruiting coordinators, that is, the people you are most interested in, aren't the ones doing the write-ups. You're putting WAAAAY too much emphasis on the stats. The college scouts could tell which players were legit based on the combine activity. The live action may or may not have confirmed, it, but they got on a radar (or didn't) based largely on the controlled environment.
You also seem extremely focused on them getting their results posted quickly. I'd be more interested in them getting them right and the quality of the assessment. The Perfect Game showcase write-ups typically take a month or more to complete and post. They are written, then crosschecked across multiple sets of notes from multiple sets of PG staff. They tweak accordingly.
I believe that everyone gets that you feel ripped off from this event and want to vent. I don't believe that mine or anyone else's advice will sway your opinion on the matter, so we'll agree to disagree. The only reason for my input is to allow others reading this understand how these showcases work so that there is some balance in the perspective.
I agree with all this. Including that we'll have to agree to disagree. |
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baseballscoutz
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Posted - 08/26/2015 : 14:37:57
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The list of former attendees and where they signed is on our site. We do not claim that we got them signed but that those guys attended and were later signed that fall. We have actually had over 200 in the four years but used 200 as the number. We sent invites from coaches that sent us names, Top 100 attendees and PG event attendees. We also let a few /2017/2018 kids just sign up so that we could see them for the first time. The college coaches cannot all sit in the dugouts, some were upstairs do to NCAA Rules. So the 20 in the dugout where not all that attended. We guaranteed 25 we had 40 attend. They signed in by the way. So, again you can get on here bash our product say we lied or whatever you want 706 833 3394 is an easy phone call. Pick up the phone express your issues and we will see how we can help. We had 226 actually attend the event. We turned many away. We wanted to keep it at 200 but needed more pitchers and outfielders when we reached 200. If your kid got 4 live at bats which all did then the scouts saw more than plenty. We can break down mechanics in one AB. They saw BP and 4 live at bats. They saw everyone throw and field some balls. They saw everyone run and play in two games. They saw pitchers throw to 7-10 hitters. The guys know what they want and this is why we structure the event this way. I stay in constant contact with recruiters daily. We know what they want and they know what we deliver that sir is why they have continued to come to our events since 1998. Let the professionals decide what they want to see and you decide if you want to attend. The list is public record of every player that has signed. We also have not updated it the last two months so there are many more to add. SO if your just looking to be an ass then you've done a great job if you seriously want to discuss ten call stop parading around on here like your some expert in the field. quote:
Originally posted by rippit
Seriously folks - if you weren't there - you don't know how poorly this was run.
IF/OF wasn't done Friday night. It was done for 30 minutes prior to your teams first game with both teams in that game participating. Like I said earlier, each kid got 1-2 balls hit to them period. There may or may not have been a gun on the throw. There was ONE kid - in a uniform with a clipboard writing down what I can only assume was velocity. If you had the 8am game, scouts were just trickling in.
For this reason, there was no way for them to have been given a list of who could throw or field whatever in time for them to "look" at certain players.
As to Friday night, there was some bat speed testing going on in the hitting building. Each player got 5 swings then 5 more swings during BP. The scouts were in the 1B dugout. When a certain team was running 60s, they would wander over in their pack of 20, not 40, to observe. Wasted walk in my opinion if you are going to be given a list of who did what times. You can't remember 250 faces.
So, back to BP. 20 guys, not 40 as BS has indicated - nor can anyone prove they were ALL RCs, were sitting in the dugout grading swings. Okay cool. So we have the 60, 10 swings and bat speed tests on Friday night.
And you guys are going RANK players based on this. Seems simple enough. So where are the rest of the rankings? I'd love to see what you say about my son's bat speed (which another place said topped out at 99 in May), his swing, and I already know his 60 time.
He's not a pitcher, he's a 2016, so it seems to me that nobody cares at this point about how he fields and throws a baseball which is a big part of the game (hardly anyone was there to see it and I have yet to see any feedback that his results were documented). Size? Check. Grades. Check. Experience? Check, Baseball IQ? Check.
We've been to several camps where the feedback was immediate. I don't believe this organization is on the up and up as they are failing miserably on following through with anything at this point for over 200 kids from just ONE of their camps. We've already had several other emails trying to get us to other camps they are running. So again, TWO HUNDRED scouted and found from just THEIR deal?
NO.
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baseballscoutz
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Posted - 08/26/2015 : 15:11:52
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So what your saying is that he is a 3B that can't play 1B or 1B that can't play 3B. So your limited by opportunities to only be able to play one corner. If he's not a runner then limits even more. If he doesn't throw 85 plus then limits again. So you are a big guy with some power. Take a look at the rosters of every college team in Georgia. There are some high quality athletes on most of these teams. Guys that Throw, Run and hit. That's what the scouts look for in a player. They will teach IQ, players will get experience. That stuff matters little. What matters is that you can get in school and that you can Run, Throw or hit. If you cannot do 2 of 3 you are gonna have a tough time. quote:
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Seriously folks - if you weren't there - you don't know how poorly this was run.
IF/OF wasn't done Friday night. It was done for 30 minutes prior to your teams first game with both teams in that game participating. Like I said earlier, each kid got 1-2 balls hit to them period. There may or may not have been a gun on the throw. There was ONE kid - in a uniform with a clipboard writing down what I can only assume was velocity. If you had the 8am game, scouts were just trickling in.
For this reason, there was no way for them to have been given a list of who could throw or field whatever in time for them to "look" at certain players.
As to Friday night, there was some bat speed testing going on in the hitting building. Each player got 5 swings then 5 more swings during BP. The scouts were in the 1B dugout. When a certain team was running 60s, they would wander over in their pack of 20, not 40, to observe. Wasted walk in my opinion if you are going to be given a list of who did what times. You can't remember 250 faces.
So, back to BP. 20 guys, not 40 as BS has indicated - nor can anyone prove they were ALL RCs, were sitting in the dugout grading swings. Okay cool. So we have the 60, 10 swings and bat speed tests on Friday night.
And you guys are going RANK players based on this. Seems simple enough. So where are the rest of the rankings? I'd love to see what you say about my son's bat speed (which another place said topped out at 99 in May), his swing, and I already know his 60 time.
He's not a pitcher, he's a 2016, so it seems to me that nobody cares at this point about how he fields and throws a baseball which is a big part of the game (hardly anyone was there to see it and I have yet to see any feedback that his results were documented). Size? Check. Grades. Check. Experience? Check, Baseball IQ? Check.
We've been to several camps where the feedback was immediate. I don't believe this organization is on the up and up as they are failing miserably on following through with anything at this point for over 200 kids from just ONE of their camps. We've already had several other emails trying to get us to other camps they are running. So again, TWO HUNDRED scouted and found from just THEIR deal?
NO.
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BBall123
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Posted - 08/31/2015 : 09:14:10
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Bballman You are absolutely correct. We have been going through this very process since late last summer(2014) We have been in communications with scouts, cross checkers and scouting directors from 11 MLB teams so far providing questionnaires, medical info, references etc. Invited to and will be attending several individual MLB team private workouts in the fall/winter. They all want to see him this spring in his senior high school season. It is a process, size, speed, bat speed, arm strength, that's called projectability. One of the main things they are looking at if the are on you is "make up".
If they are on you they already know you can play. They want to see " WHO YOU ARE" How do you handle your self with coaches, team mates, umpires, opposition, parents,, how do you handle failure? Can they invest in you as a person or are you a screw up waiting to happen.
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The batter's mechanics, contact and power has already been evaluated and the walk isn't going to hurt him. Like I said, for position guys, a determination has already been made prior to the games.
So, let me get this straight. It's entirely possible that a players hitting/batting scores are 100% attributed to the 60mph BP he participated in rather than him up at the plate trying to hit an 85+mph ball, or a curve, or a ball specifically thrown so as to not be hit? So really they are just looking at a players swing not if he can actually hit a real pitch?
Basically, yes. However, no scout/recruiter will make a final decision on a player after having seen him only once. This initial evaluation will put you on a list. They will want to see the player again. Usually, this second and third look will come during a PG event when the scouts/recruiters are all there. They will be in contact with players they are interested in and ask for a schedule of when the player will be playing.
I know a lot of you guys don't get it, but this really is how it works. I know this, I could sit at a showcase and within the first hour, if that, tell which kids I thought were baseball players and which guys are not. And these scouts/recruiters are much better than me. The narrowing down of who a scout/recruiter is interested in starts in the first couple minutes of seeing them. Once they have weeded out 90% of the players there, then they watch a little more closely what the player does after that. The player will either stay on the "interested" list, or be taken off. If they stay on the list, then more follow up in actual games is required.
The showcase is there to get on a scout/recruiter's "interested" list. It is usually not the only thing that will get you recruited. Just the first step.
The whole recruiting game is extremely competitive. Believe me, there are a LOT more kids who want to play college ball then there are spots available on college rosters. As I stated earlier, not every kid who plays college baseball is an absolute stud. There are many levels of college baseball. The studs will be picked up early by the big D1s. Everyone else will be competing against a TON of kids for those lower level D1, D2, D3, JUCO and NAIA spots. First impressions do matter.
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jje1
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Posted - 09/04/2015 : 12:30:18
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| Hey Rippit, I have seen some rating as low as 5! And I agree with an earlier post that it better to start at local showcases show your player can get a feel of what's going on. It will prepare him for the PG which is still brings very subjective measurements into play. |
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Someone please explain it to me
