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brdymakr
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 Posted - 04/15/2015 : 12:42:15
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| Was just recently at a HS game between two county rivals in Forsyth. No less than 7 MLB organizations were present all with radar guns and backpacks with logos in full view. A dozen or so "other" radar guns were also visible but backpacks and logos were not (likely collegiate affiliations). Most/All were clearly there to see one kid, the starting pitcher for the visiting team. How do we know? Cuz as the Coach went to fetch him from the mound after 2 1/3 (8 hits and 4 runs all earned) the scouts (including the "others") quickly packed their guns into the backpacks and left. Kid threw 90% fastballs all over 94MPH by the guns we could see from behind and got lit up. The question I walked away with was..."I wonder if this kid was throwing so many fastballs cuz he and everybody else knew that was what the scouts were there to see?"...in the end it likely confirmed his velocity report, but hurt his location and pitch mix / pitch command report. It also didn't do much for his teams chances of winning the game either. Opposing pitcher was mid 80's with a solid pitch mix and had not given up a run through 5 innings when we left a 8-0 game... All kinds of scouts attend all kinds of games, don't get caught up in the "hype" and just play ball at your best and they will find you...keep the dreams alive for as many boys as possible and our great game will flourish. |
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dgersh22
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Posted - 04/15/2015 : 17:14:02
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| brdymakr, where you watching the same West Forsyth vs. North Forsyth game I was. The young man that pitched did have his worst outing of the year for North his official line was 2 1/3 innings, 2 hits, 5BB, 1K, 3R, 1ER with 3 errors behind him. He has had anywhere from 12-20 MLB or scouting reps at every game he has pitched. I guarantee you none where college affiliated, he has already signed a letter of intent with UGA. His pitch mix that night was 66 pitches thrown of which 44 where fastballs, yes he touched 94, which is slower than what he has thrown most of this year and with better results (beat Lambert 2-1). All 17/18 year olds are going to have off games, just like many college/minor/major league players. In talking with some of the same scouts that have been there every game that he has pitched, they all stated that all kids have bad outings once in awhile. Believe me this young man does not get caught up in the "hype", for someone that will most likely be drafted in the early rounds in June he is the most down to earth, team guy out there. You should have stayed for the end of the game the final was 8-7! |
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hshuler
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Posted - 04/15/2015 : 18:06:53
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| Again...Scouts are looking for tools. 94 is plus tool. The kid could not win a game and would still be drafted highly because it would be the job of the organization to develop the talent and teach him how to pitch. |
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bballman
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Posted - 04/15/2015 : 20:57:43
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Originally posted by hshuler
Again...Scouts are looking for tools. 94 is plus tool. The kid could not win a game and would still be drafted highly because it would be the job of the organization to develop the talent and teach him how to pitch.
Yep. If you throw 94, they will find you. 94 is a tool you cannot teach.
If you are the opposing pitcher throwing mid-80's, you better go looking for someone who wants you. No one is going to be going out of their way to find you. No doubt you can play baseball somewhere, but no one is going to be knocking down your door. |
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Critical Mass
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Posted - 04/17/2015 : 11:49:41
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| Yeah, that kid won't be going to UGA. That's what i've heard on the street. He's one of two local pitchers to completely shut down Lambert this season, the other one is at Kennesaw Mountain. He 1 hit them over a 7 inning CG with 11ks. The hit was weak, like the leads from "Mitch and Murray"....fileted into LF. GA 2015's have a solid class of pitchers, although i have heard that 2 of the ones on top of the "radar"..and are not these two previously mentioned have "dead arms" and aren't anywhere near their velocity in Jupiter or ECP. Go figure. |
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hshuler
1074 Posts |
Posted - 04/17/2015 : 14:14:50
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| Yes, I think one has tendonitis and is shutdown for the foreseeable future. |
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Diamond_dad
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Posted - 04/19/2015 : 14:18:07
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| I've been watching a lot of college baseball on tv lately and I've watched most of the top teams and I've only seen two pitchers throw in the 90's. I've seen quite a few kids during PG tourneys that throw in the 90's though, is it because when they get to the next level they lack consistency? Most of the kids that threw 90's against my kids teams normally struggled to throw strikes. |
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hshuler
1074 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2015 : 18:21:40
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| Wow...I've seen SEC teams run kid after kid in the 90's. |
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GeorgiaBoy
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Posted - 05/07/2015 : 09:45:19
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This is a terrific post... I'm new to this forum as it is my second day on this site and my first post. My son just finished what we believe will be his last season of rec ball... He's 9 & will be playing 10u travel next season. I'm reading all I can about the world of travel ball... It seems that the learning curve is quite steep. Post like this help give me perspective... Thanks
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Originally posted by CaCO3Girl
The short story is if you took a poll right now 90+% of the College ball players were contacted because of their Travel Ball teams. You may even be able to go 99+%!
These are the harsh truths of baseball. Here is an excerpt off of a website:
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The following is a compilation of the odds for a high school player to either get drafted by a professional team or play college baseball.
Making the Pros
We will make some assumptions on the total numbers of players eligible each draft year.
High School Players @ 114,159 seniors
NCAA (4 year schools) @ 12,581 juniors & seniors
NJCAA (2 year schools) @ 11,520
COA (@ year schools) @ 2,175
That gives us 140,435 "draft eligible" players.
140,129/1,500 = 94
1 player in 94 will be selected in the Major League Baseball Draft
Playing in College
High School seniors = 114,159
College "seniors" (or sophomores when related to juco's) = 13,137
That means their are 114,159 graduating high seniors versus 13,137 slots open
114,159/13,137 = 10.1
1 high school player in every 10 has a chance to play in college
These numbers are not completely accurate, due to several reasons (foreign born players, players dropping out of school, etc.). But it is a fun look "At the Numbers."
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Now if you are a scout or a head coach are you going to spend your time at a High School Baseball game with 2-3 very talented kids, or are you going to see the 18 Very talented travel ball players all on one team?
Is it possible to get recruited right out of HS for College and MLB without doing travel ball, yes of course! Is it likely, no, no it isn't. But I would agree that a player should play EVERY game with the same amount of effort and heart, no matter who they think is watching.
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