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ToddH10
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 Posted - 02/13/2014 : 19:17:41
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| Anyone have any experience playing in these tourneys? What did you think? Our team is planning on playing in several of them this season. We have never played in them....usually just do USSSA or BPA, so was curious as to what people thought of them. |
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in_the_know
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Posted - 02/13/2014 : 23:54:50
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| What age group? They are outstanding events that attract professional and college scouts at the older ages (16 & up mostly). You'll see and face some of the best players in the country. Not at all like what you're used to if comparing to u-trip or bpa. |
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agent21
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Posted - 02/14/2014 : 13:25:12
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Played a 17U team from CA last summer with a roster full of D1 commits (not low-level D1 -- we are talking Stanford, ASU, etc.). They were tough competitors.
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ToddH10
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Posted - 02/14/2014 : 17:51:17
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| We are 10u. |
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bballman
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Posted - 02/14/2014 : 22:18:39
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| My son did PG tournaments for 5 years and never knew they did them for 10 year olds. In fact, as I write this, I went to their website and the youngest I see there is one 12 year old tournament and 2 13 year old tournaments. They are good, well run tournaments for HS age kids, but not really necessary for kids that young. They are usually pretty expensive so you can probably get more bang for your buck somewhere else. But, if you want to do it, feel free. Don't think you'd be disappointed with the level of competition. But that's just coming from being involved in the 14-18 tournaments. |
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a1prog
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Posted - 02/14/2014 : 23:42:14
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| The only thing you need to think about when signing up at the younger ages is the location of your games. You may play one day at east cobb, the next day in loganville an the next day in cumming. pg uses h-s fields all over and that can be a grind. For the older ages though this is where the best come to play. |
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in_the_know
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Posted - 02/14/2014 : 23:59:56
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ToddH10,
The real value of Perfect Game is the advanced scouting and consolidation of data on players that they publish on prospective college and pro players. Until very recently, they didn't do much below 14/15u. Just last season, I saw them doing 12u, but haven't heard of 10u until your post.
Check out their site (perfectgame.org) and you'll get a sense of what they do. Their tournaments tend to be expensive, but that's based on the older ages where each game is scored on gamechanger and broadcast online and individual write-ups on each game are provided.
At 10u, I'd compare price and give it a shot if it's price competitive with U-trip, BPA, Triple Crown, etc. If your son is playing competitively in the next 3-4 years, you'll have plenty of opportunity to play in their events. Their tourneys aren't for the meek and offer the best competition at the high school ages.
They're moving their HQ from Iowa to Emerson (LakePoint)and will run the baseball operations at LakePoint. I would expect that there will be much more opportunity to play more of their tournaments here now. My sons have played in their tourneys in both Atlanta and Ft. Myers over the years, but the new facility being built here will definitely be a game changer for our area and their tournaments. |
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Peanutsr
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Posted - 02/15/2014 : 02:35:30
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| The tournaments my son enjoyed the most at 10,11,12,13, and 14 were Triple Crown. |
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ToddH10
28 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2014 : 23:45:19
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| Thanks for the replys. The 10u tourneys are hard to find on their website. I think I had to go under the PG25 tourneys and then go under the 10u age group. |
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in_the_know
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Posted - 02/16/2014 : 09:49:20
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Originally posted by ToddH10
Thanks for the replys. The 10u tourneys are hard to find on their website. I think I had to go under the PG25 tourneys and then go under the 10u age group.
OK, Perfect Game Super25 is a new tournament format that they just begun, so that makes some sense. It's a tiered format where teams qualify via qualifiers, regionals, super regionals to a national championship.
The biggest thing that this tournament offers over its competitors is that your roster locks with the first pitch of your first game. So all those folks who moan about loading teams, adding players, etc., etc., should find this format favorable. It promotes the TEAM.
If they get solid interest at the lower age groups, it should be very competitive, however it the lower age groups opt to play USSSA Elite 32, AAU, TBS, etc., then it will end up like all the others.
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bballman
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Posted - 02/24/2014 : 11:14:11
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Originally posted by jongamefan
dads and moms may not like to hear this but trust me after 2 kids , nephews and watching the whole process go through from tball to college ball . and college ball is 5% of the kids who even make it to high school .
stay patient , the high school years and perfect game cycle will be here before you know it - time flys in youth sports
And you would be surprised at how many kids don't make it past the 1st year or two of college. I have been very surprised at the attrition rate on college teams.
And yes, enjoy your time and have fun. Time flies by REALLY fast.
I hear it all the time - Enjoy it while you can. I say the most important thing is to continue to build your relationship with your ball player. Even when the ride continues, you don't want your son to look back on the younger days and remember getting yelled at all the time about mistakes made or performance in their games. Baseball is a game of failure. It's a game of streaks. It's a game that challenges players mentally and physically. When a kid doesn't perform well, they know it. They don't need to be lectured on the way home. They need to know that it's OK and they will have the opportunity to come back in the next game and do better.
Make sure THEY enjoy the ride as well. If it's not fun, they won't want to keep doing it. If your relationship isn't good, they will dread seeing you after the game instead of looking to you for support and help them get through the tough times. No matter how far your kid gets, it will end at some time. Enjoy it while you can and make sure your player enjoys it while they can as well. Because it will be over before you know it. |
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SSBuckeye
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Posted - 02/25/2014 : 12:41:35
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| Awesome post, bballman! |
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Strategizer
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Posted - 02/26/2014 : 11:35:58
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| Yes,great post bballman! There are a lot of parents that want the best for their kids, but some times they go about it the wrong way. Early on I had my days, but I was fortunate to recognize my faults before there were any major regrets. My son is 12 now and has been playing competitive travel baseball for 4 years. I work with him a lot on the technical and mental aspects of the game. At first I was a little hard on him, but over the past couple of years I have made the experience a lot more fun for the both of us :-). I don't get mad or push him too hard when I train him. I'm always complimentary and supportive. On the way to a game I spend just a few minutes pumping him up-- and nothing more. After a game-- win or lose-- I make him feel good about himself :-). I always remind him that there are going to be GOOD days and BAD days... and EVERYBODY has them... on the field and off. It's how you build on those "good" days and how you "approach" and "overcome" the "bad" days... that ultimately define your character. I'm happy to say my son "still" really enjoys the game :-). In closing, there's nothing like having a strong bond and relationship with your kid(s)! |
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bballman
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Posted - 02/26/2014 : 12:20:14
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Thanks guys. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying to sugar coat things by any stretch of the imagination. You have to be honest about things - good or bad. I think there are just different ways to go about it. My son and I are very honest about how he performs.
I'll give you a couple of examples. He pitched in the championship game of a collegiate summer league last summer. He gave up 2 runs in the 1st inning, then shut the other team down for the next 5 innings. He went 6 innings giving up 2 runs and we lost the game 2-1. I knew he was not "on". I told my brother that, who was also in the stands. He basically said, are you kidding me? He pitched great!! I told him to ask my son after the game how he thought he pitched and I guarantee you he will say not that good. My brother asked him as soon as he got out of the dugout. My son said he did not have his best stuff and really didn't pitch that well by his standards.
Another one. Several weeks ago, he had a bad outing for his college team. Went 1 1/3 innings giving up six singles and 3 runs. He came out after the game and I just went up to him and said "Well, that sucked". He said , "yeah, I know". I happened to have recorded the beginning of the outing and noticed a couple of mechanical things he was doing wrong. I asked him if he was open to some feedback and to look at the video. We talked about it later, I showed him what I thought was going on and he saw it. He started to work on it and in his last 2 outings, he has gone 7 innings, 4 hits, 6 Ks, no runs.
If we didn't have the kind of relationship where you could be honest about performance, but willing to work together on it, he may still be giving up a bunch of runs.
Like I said, I don't think things need to be sugarcoated and everything is always great kind of attitude, but acknowledge that things didn't go well and go from there. Sometimes you should wait till the next day to say anything more about it, sometimes right then is the thing to do. It all depends. But get a read on your son. Many times he would come off the field and I would say - That didn't go to well - His response - I know. Me - Where do you want to go to eat?
I'm happy that I still get the privilege to watch him play as a sophomore in college. But I still need to heed my own advice, because this will come to an end before I know it as well. Believe me, it still feels like yesterday that he was going into his freshman year of high school. I still remember every emotion I went through during that time. I go by the HS field and remember that time and cannot believe that 6 years have gone by since then. It really boggles the imagination. Time really flies. |
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