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 Posted - 10/24/2013 : 11:30:23
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A friend has a son that plays travel baseball in Alabama. He is a sophomore this season. his son's HS team does not form a team to play summer or travel so the coaches encourage them to play travel baseball, he said his sons travel coach is the assistant coach on another high school team near them, he says his son doesn't get the playing time he should because the coach tends to play the players that attend his high school. I haven't thought about this before, does that happen here in Georgia? Is that any different from daddy ball?
Should parents check a roster for players going to the coaches high school? Are there any legalities with GHSA? |
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BaseballMom6
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Posted - 10/24/2013 : 23:11:16
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| It is my understanding that Georgia High School rules prohibit coaches from coaching their on players outside of the school season. |
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nastycurve
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Posted - 10/25/2013 : 12:21:39
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GHSA only allows for very limited interaction with Coaches and players(2 at a time max). What a lot of successful teams do is put a majority of their high school players on a travel team and coach them with a coaching staff of like minded individuals or they are coached by a hs coach who is not on staff. Either way, they will still need additional players because even in high school not everyone buys into the system and some play on their own travel squads.
One thing I have noticed is that the majority of coaches, in addition to developing players, want to win. There will be some mistakes made as far as evaluation of talent goes, but all in all, if your kid can play he will play. Not many travel coaches will sit a kid who can throw 85+ or hit the ball over the gate, whether he goes to the hs or not. |
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4-love-of-the-game
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Posted - 10/25/2013 : 15:36:44
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| I coach at a local Georgia HS and coaches at ANY level (freshman, JV or Varsity) are NOT allowed to coach any high school age players from their school in that same sport in the "off season". This rule is in place specifically for this reason!! |
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aSouthPaw
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Posted - 10/25/2013 : 15:47:18
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| I think BaseballMom6 is correct with a small correction. GHSA allows a community coach to coach travel ball players from his team as long as there are no more than 2 players from the school he/she coaches for. |
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HITANDRUN
436 Posts |
Posted - 10/27/2013 : 15:23:42
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| What is a community coach. Does this mean an assistant coach can coach a travel team as long as he is not the head coach? |
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in_the_know
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Posted - 10/28/2013 : 09:19:59
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Originally posted by HITANDRUN
What is a community coach. Does this mean an assistant coach can coach a travel team as long as he is not the head coach?
It's a coach who is not a teacher at the school. Someone from the community who is on the coaching staff but is not a school employee. Receives no compensation from the school (may receive some from booster club). |
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HITANDRUN
436 Posts |
Posted - 10/28/2013 : 14:40:54
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| So does this mean an assistant coach at a hs can coach a travel team as head coach, as long as he is not the head coach for hs? |
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in_the_know
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Posted - 10/28/2013 : 19:50:58
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According to GHSA rules, summer is unrestricted as long as the students participation is voluntary. So any high school coach, including the head coach, can coach as many of his students during the summer as he or she wants, provided it's voluntary. As soon as August 1 hits, the school year is in effect and the legal practice rules would dictate that no more than 1 coach may meet with 2 students at a time to practice or improve skills outside of the sport's season.
SITUATION: A certified teacher who coaches at a member school gives instruction and/or coaches in a non-school Summer program that continues into Fall semester. What are the restrictions on the coach?
INTERPRETATION: The Summer activity is unrestricted as long as the students' participation is voluntary. After the GHSA school year begins in the Fall, the following conditions must be met:
If the students are in the school where the teacher coaches, no more than two can meet with the coach in skill-building drills at any point in time out of season.
If the student is from a school other than the one at which the teacher coaches, the student must voluntarily attend any instruction session or competition with the Summer activity without any direct or indirect influence from the school the student attends.
If any student transfers to the school where the teacher coaches, it would be prima facie evidence of undue influence and penalties could result. NOTE: This interpretation also applies to Community Coaches.
The GHSA school year begins August 1.
The baseball calendar for the 2013/2014 school year:
Date for first practice: Jan 27 - Note, this is the first date that tryouts may begin
Date for first contest: Feb 17
Last play date: Apr 26
Playoffs run May 2 - May 26
Max games Varsity may play=26, JV=18 - If a player is playing both varsity and JV during a season, they cannot exceed a combined 26 games.
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in_the_know
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Posted - 10/28/2013 : 20:09:10
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Here's the GHSA Constitution and by-laws on Coach and Community Coach:
2.51 An athletic coach must be a professional teacher meeting the teaching requirements and be employed by only one board of education or similar governing authority within the GHSA membership, regardless of whether or not they are paid for their coaching (Exception: when all boards of education or similar governing authorities and all principals/headmasters involved sign a consent form on an annual basis he/she may coach at another school system), AND:
1. be employed for 20 or more hours per week on a regular basis in a professional, contracted position and must hold a teaching certificate or leadership certificate issued by the State of Georgia, OR
2. be employed for 20 or more hours per week on a regular basis as a JROTC instructor in the school's JROTC program, OR
3. be assigned as a student intern in a practice teaching situation under the guidance of a college or university teacher training program, OR
4. be a retired teacher teaching or supervising (NOTE: coaching meets the supervising requirement of this by-law) less than one-half time (forty hours considered full time), OR
5. be a certified teacher or administrator at a member school on medical leave governed by the "Family Medical Leave Act" and/or the "Georgia Teacher Maternity Leave of Absence" policy (see the GHSA web site for the required form).
6. If a currently certified faculty-coach at a member school loses his/her teaching position because of a reduction in force action, that school may petition the Executive Director in writing for that individual to continue to coach without going through the community coach training.
7. A teacher at a non-member school who is hired to be a coach at a member school must complete the GHSA Community Coach Education program and may not be a head coach. A consent form between the two schools must be completed annually.
2.52 Member schools may employ persons who are not professionally certificated teachers as assistant coaches in their athletic programs. These individuals are referred to as "community coaches."
1. Community Coach is defined as a person who does not have a professional-level certification, who relates in role and function to a professional and does a portion of the professional's job or tasks under the supervision of the professional, and whose decision-making authority is limited and regulated by the professional. Community coaches are not allowed to function without the immediate supervision of an educational professional and may not function as a varsity Head Coach or be named by the school as a varsity Head Coach.
2. Licensed para-professionals and full-time substitute teachers must complete the GHSA Coaches Education Program and testing program to be eligible to coach.
3. All community coaches should be signed to a written "agreement to coach."
1. They may coach for only one board of education annually, regardless of whether or not they are paid for their services.
2. Community coaches may not coach the same sport at more than one school even if there are multiple schools in the system.
4. All community coaches must complete the GHSA Coaches Education Training and Testing Program in "Sport First Aid" and "Principles for Coaches."
1. Prospective coaches must be subject to a criminal background check before they are registered for the GHSA coaches education program.
2. Courses are offered at various times each school year throughout the state.
3. Prospective coaches are registered with the GHSA office by the school hiring them.
4. No community coach may do any GHSA coaching until he/she has been notified that the GHSA Coaches Education Program had been completed successfully.
5. It is recommended that the following priority for employment be used:
1. certified employees in the local system (secondary, middle, elementary, central office, etc.)
2. retired certificated personnel
3. community coaches who have completed the GHSA Coaches Education Program.
6. All community coaches must attend a regular GHSA rules clinic each year for any sport in which they coach beginning with their first year of service or the school will be fined.
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Is there a conflict of interest at the HS age
