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bball2000
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 Posted - 01/20/2013 : 23:08:38
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AAU posted new rule for 2013 that for 8 u thru 13 u there will be no bat restrictions for ESPN Nationals. Does this mean everyone can bring a loaded bat?If you have any questions regarding any of the rule changes, please contact National Baseball Chair Ed Skovron (401.451.1999, oldpro77@msn.com) or Debra Horn at the National Office (407.828.3459; debra@aausports.org).Bat Restrictions
There are no bat restrictions for the 8U through 13U age groups. 14U, Underclassmen, and Upperclassmen must abide by the NFHS mandates for bats. This is directly from AAU website. |
Edited by - bball2000 on 01/20/2013 23:12:18 |
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Card6
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Posted - 01/21/2013 : 13:15:22
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| This can not possibly mean shaved bats are legal. |
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Spartan4
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Posted - 01/22/2013 : 01:33:30
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I doubt shaved bats will be legal.
It won't matter tho, any time a kid rips one off little Johnny his parents will start telling anybody who will listen the kids bat has to be shaved....the way some people talked last year every team had more shaved bats than legal bats. |
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Hot Corner
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Posted - 01/22/2013 : 08:54:25
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0 chance shaved bats would be legal. If someone was hurt they could own that place. Way too much liability. Truth is, as sick as it is shaved bats are there with ALL age groups. Don't think for 1 second that some idiot parent that is trying to impress everyone would not have little Johnny's bat shaved. Although it is very few, these people are out there.
Until these associations decide to do what's right and invest in safety for the kids by doing random compression tests, there will be altered bats and peoples suspicion that certain kids are using them.
I can promise one thing, if my kid is seriously hurt and I request the bat to be checked and it comes back altered. Someone is going to charged. The bat manufactures are suing individuals these days because of the liability and the penalties are huge.
Sorry for the rant but playing Men's slow pitch I have seen some nasty results of shaved bats.
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Card6
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Posted - 01/22/2013 : 09:07:08
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Originally posted by Spartan4
I doubt shaved bats will be legal.
It won't matter tho, any time a kid rips one off little Johnny his parents will start telling anybody who will listen the kids bat has to be shaved....the way some people talked last year every team had more shaved bats than legal bats.
Amen to that. We cant stand to be around parents like that. Avoid at all cost.
Bottom line a cheater will cheat. Shave bats do nothing in the short or long run to help the child using them but hurt them and others.. |
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nastycurve
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Posted - 01/22/2013 : 12:22:34
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| You mean you guys dont think sammy sosa only used corked bats during warmups to hit homeruns for the fans? |
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Hot Corner
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Posted - 01/22/2013 : 13:05:56
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Spartan4
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Posted - 01/22/2013 : 13:35:31
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[quote]Originally posted by nastycurve
You mean you guys dont think sammy sosa only used corked bats during warmups to hit homeruns for the fans?
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Sports Science did a show that concluded corking a bat had a negative effect on distance. I was pretty amazed a pro athlete would risk his reputation to hurt performance!!!
Also I play in a men's league where everybody uses a cut bat.. It's pretty crazy the additional ball speed from stock to shaved. |
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nastycurve
244 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2013 : 14:40:18
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| I'm thinking a 13 year old should go out there with a fungo. |
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Hot Corner
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Posted - 01/22/2013 : 14:53:51
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Cut bats make a huge difference. The difference in our men's ball is we all know what we are getting into. With guys hitting 375-400 ft bombs with clean bats, you put cut bats in their hands and its nuts.
Same concept for the kids except they don't have a clue. I am confident that 1 day compression tests at the youth level will be common (unless youth goes wood first which would be great!).
The only way organizations would test bats is if they were pressed by the parents.
Who out here wants to start the movement!!!????!!! Ha |
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Spartan4
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Posted - 01/22/2013 : 15:39:24
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| We used the hottest possible legal bat available last year. If my kid has to pitch against it he might as well use it. And it was ridiculously hot, but every mom and grandma became an expert..."it's shaved" or "he's using a loaded bat" but it was perfectly legal. After a lot of hoopla I looked forward to people crying about the bat as much as watching baseball. And there was a Florida team who had the same bat and it was shaved, that thing was incredible!! 95lb kid hitting 275 and still rising when it went out! A lot of infielders just got out of the way. But from what I understand the bat lasted 2 tournies. |
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nastycurve
244 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2013 : 15:45:23
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Lol lets both sign up for that! Big business isn't going to let a little thing like the health of a child get in the way of recurring revenue. I've played softball with shaved and rolled bats and those things bomb. It makes you wonder how often our kids are playing with/against them.
Does bbcor have any anti rolling characteristics? |
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Hot Corner
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Posted - 01/22/2013 : 16:54:02
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Nasty, I don't think so. The true reason for rolling is to compress the fibers and glue in a composite bat. Thats what "breaks" the bat in. You could get the same effect with a rubber mallet hitting the barrel. But that in itself is "altering" the bat. It's comical to me.
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Spartan4
913 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2013 : 19:39:55
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| Few weeks ago at a men's softball tourney at Disney I watched a man purchase the newest Miken bat(already supposed to be pretty hot) and proceed to beat the crap out of it up against a telephone pole(rotating it in his hands of course)...Why?!?! His answer: does the same thing as rolling it, just need it to be broken in. Then he went on to complain that he has to buy a new bat for Disney tourneys because "these guys actually check the dang bats"!! |
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in_the_know
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Posted - 01/23/2013 : 09:16:24
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Originally posted by nastycurve
Lol lets both sign up for that! Big business isn't going to let a little thing like the health of a child get in the way of recurring revenue. I've played softball with shaved and rolled bats and those things bomb. It makes you wonder how often our kids are playing with/against them.
Does bbcor have any anti rolling characteristics?
First off, rolling only has an effect on composite bats. The net result of rolling the bat is that it breaks it in more quickly and evenly than using the bat. A composite bat gets "hotter" with use until that point where it's maxed out. Originally manufacturers had to meet the specifications (BESR or 1.15, or none) when the bat came out of the wrapper.
With the BBCOR spec, now that it's widely known that composites surpass the spec with age, they are now required to never exceed the spec through the life of the bat. So you'll find that these bats do get hotter with age, but never to the point that they exceed the BBCOR maximum limits of barrel flex. So a player will want to break the bat in to get maximum performance out of the bat or they will be using a relatively dead bat until that time.
So the BBCOR's don't institute any kind of "anti-rolling" technology, it just dictates that the bat cannot exceed the specification throughout the life of the bat so manufacturers must produce a bat that maxes out at or below the limit.
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Spartan4
913 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2013 : 12:24:39
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| I wonder why baseball manufacturers don't use the same technology the softball bats have. Some have a hardened steel sleve inside the bat the others staple the cap in etc etc etc...Every baseball bat I know of just has a pop in type end cap. |
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HITANDRUN
436 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2013 : 13:23:44
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| I've said it before will say it again. No one needs to shave these bats they are already super hot out the wrapper unless they are wood or bbcor. I have a feeling each year the bats in hs and college bbcor will be hotter than they were in 2011 for bbcor and slightly hotter in 2012. Watch the HR numbers jump this year. |
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AAU POST NO BAT RESTRICTIONS 2013
