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Coach Art
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 Posted - 08/17/2012 : 13:28:38
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I'm sure that we have all been in situations where the parents were poison to say the least. So I suggest we/you do some homework on them too, if possible prior to "committing" to the NEXT STUD. I personally will choose a player with less natural talent that can be coached up with good parents that bring my player to every practice/game & are commited to putting in the extra work at home over a player who's parents demand that there "little rock star" receives preferential treatment which will destroy the team chemistry. Sacrifice wins over unnecessary drama...
It's like the old saying "all money is not good $$$"
which one means more to you? |
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PeachFuzz
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Posted - 08/17/2012 : 16:22:16
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| At the younger ages, realize that you're drafting the family and not just the player. If you remember that, you can save yourself a fortune on Tylenol as you go through the season. |
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bmoser
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Posted - 08/17/2012 : 19:16:05
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It's harder in some ways to be a parent and sit outside the fence than it is to be a Coach who controls what goes on inside the fence.
Ask anyone who Coached their child in the early years and now turns things over to the Coaches who are better equipped.
However...
The toughest things Coaches do is cut players and deal with parents.
I've done both, and I find it a bit harder to sit outside, even though I know I don't have what it takes to be a Coach anymore.
I hope Coaches and parents will consider each others positions very closely, and give each other a bit more slack. Neither side of the fence is easy.
If you haven't had to call a parent to cut their kid, you cant know how hard that call is.
If you've never watched your kid sit on the bench, bat last, not bat at all, or watch you son play outfield all season long, that's no party either.
Let's give each other a little more respect next Spring. Looking back, I wish I had.
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ChinMusic
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Posted - 08/17/2012 : 20:29:04
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I can understand wanting to make everyone happy, but that's really not the job of a good coach. A good coach assembles a team where every players role is clearly defined, and then manages that chosen roster to get the best out of his team. Once you get to HS, the coaches don't really care what the parents think.
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bball2000
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Posted - 08/17/2012 : 22:04:39
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| Why treat a kid like it is HS? It is not HS nor are the coaches HS coaches. Respect for all should be what is shown. Parents, coaches and kids. A coach who adds too many to his roster is asking for trouble. Who really wants to drive hundreds of miles and spend hundreds of dollars to watch his kid sit on the bench? A coach that allows this to happen has NO respect for the kid or the parents. Do you ever see a coach's son warming the bench? |
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crzdirector
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Posted - 08/17/2012 : 22:26:47
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I've always coached and this will be my first season sitting on the sidelines in every sport. My son has outgrown my ability to be a good coach when there are so many more good options out there of people that really know what they are doing. Now as a parent looking for a team for my son I know the importance of not getting in his way. I'm doing my best to just be a dad and let him get evaluated without having to deal with me b/c I've dealt with those parents way too long.
You spend so much time with the families and on the field it is vital that as a parent you also look at the other families when evaluating where your child should play. It is a long a$$ summer if you don't like sitting and eating hot dogs with the other moms and dads wearing your gear. |
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Newbie BB Mom
141 Posts |
Posted - 08/18/2012 : 07:52:25
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quote:
Originally posted by bmoser
It's harder in some ways to be a parent and sit outside the fence than it is to be a Coach who controls what goes on inside the fence.
Ask anyone who Coached their child in the early years and now turns things over to the Coaches who are better equipped.
However...
The toughest things Coaches do is cut players and deal with parents.
I've done both, and I find it a bit harder to sit outside, even though I know I don't have what it takes to be a Coach anymore.
I hope Coaches and parents will consider each others positions very closely, and give each other a bit more slack. Neither side of the fence is easy.
If you haven't had to call a parent to cut their kid, you cant know how hard that call is.
If you've never watched your kid sit on the bench, bat last, not bat at all, or watch you son play outfield all season long, that's no party either.
Let's give each other a little more respect next Spring. Looking back, I wish I had.
Wonderful post, bmoser! |
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itsaboutbb
164 Posts |
Posted - 08/18/2012 : 16:24:50
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quote:
Originally posted by bball2000
Why treat a kid like it is HS? It is not HS nor are the coaches HS coaches. Respect for all should be what is shown. Parents, coaches and kids. A coach who adds too many to his roster is asking for trouble. Who really wants to drive hundreds of miles and spend hundreds of dollars to watch his kid sit on the bench? A coach that allows this to happen has NO respect for the kid or the parents. Do you ever see a coach's son warming the bench?
Exactly, If you pick the kid play him. Everybody plays everybody sits. There is nothing wrong with that. Because it's about the kids not about the coaches. |
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bkball
173 Posts |
Posted - 08/28/2012 : 11:09:25
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quote:
Originally posted by ChinMusic
I can understand wanting to make everyone happy, but that's really not the job of a good coach. A good coach assembles a team where every players role is clearly defined, and then manages that chosen roster to get the best out of his team. Once you get to HS, the coaches don't really care what the parents think.
A good coach? I think it depends on how you define as a good coach.
Wins don't make a good coach. In the end a "great coach" is a coach who's players play baseball the next season that's the bottom line, because they enjoyed it, improved and learned more about the game.
A good coach in high school might be what you refereed to above, but not before high school. |
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LilBigTown
115 Posts |
Posted - 08/29/2012 : 01:47:31
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| A good coach does make the kid want to play next year but the mark of great coach is he who sends kid up to the next level next year and actually takes time to contact new next lavel team with a referal. Its hard to determine during the season because people dont always agree but in the end its obvious and hind sight is 20/20. Thanks Peashooter for great season and tell your dad thanks for input throughout the the year! |
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offspeed4
169 Posts |
Posted - 09/18/2012 : 21:10:51
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How many kids do you think should be on a team (9u-12u and then 13-14)?quote:
Originally posted by bball2000
Why treat a kid like it is HS? It is not HS nor are the coaches HS coaches. Respect for all should be what is shown. Parents, coaches and kids. A coach who adds too many to his roster is asking for trouble. Who really wants to drive hundreds of miles and spend hundreds of dollars to watch his kid sit on the bench? A coach that allows this to happen has NO respect for the kid or the parents. Do you ever see a coach's son warming the bench?
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LLH
98 Posts |
Posted - 09/18/2012 : 21:41:02
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12u and under, 11 is a good number, depends on level being played
13u and up I like to see age plus 1
13u 14
14u 15
15u 16
16u 17
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dad4kids
109 Posts |
Posted - 09/20/2012 : 08:38:51
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quote:
Originally posted by bball2000
Why treat a kid like it is HS? It is not HS nor are the coaches HS coaches. Respect for all should be what is shown. Parents, coaches and kids. A coach who adds too many to his roster is asking for trouble. Who really wants to drive hundreds of miles and spend hundreds of dollars to watch his kid sit on the bench? A coach that allows this to happen has NO respect for the kid or the parents. Do you ever see a coach's son warming the bench?
LOL. This! Suggesting that 9-12 year olds should be treated like HS/college kids is usually just a smokescreen for "don't question my decisions!" It's funny how those who use the inapplicable HS or college analogy as a way to shut down dissent are the ones who are so often doing it the wrong way. Parents are smart enough to see if the coach's focus is what's best for his team, whether he cares about his players' development before the more important baseball years, or whether his primary concern is his own agenda (i.e., making sure his own kid never sits). |
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Good parents more important than good players!!!
