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kugs
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Posted - 06/18/2012 : 09:55:07
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This is my first post, so forgive any rookie mistakes I make. My son is 10 and turns 11 in a few weeks. He has played all-stars a few times and recently started hitting and pitching lessons. He's a great catcher, is very aggressive and motivated, and also can play outfield or third. He's hit the fence a few times at 190 feet, but has never gone over. I don't know if he's good enough to attend tryouts for a travel team and get selected; however, I think with the proper coaching and playing up a level, he would be a big asset. It's definitely a catch 22, which I'm sure many of you have been through. Any thoughts? |
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DecaturDad
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Posted - 06/18/2012 : 10:19:39
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Kugs,
I am sure you will get lots of advice here. First, realize the amount of time and money that travel ball takes. (I will let others expand on that.) By having a June birthday, he will be one of the older, bigger kids. That will help with his confidence. If he is a good catcher, that is also a plus. My son catches (just turned 13) and it is a great skill to have. I assume you understand that travel also has different skill levels: AA,AAA and majors. I would assume you would be looking for a AA team if this is his first time. Make sure you find a coach and a group of parents you like. You will be spending a lot of time with them :-) |
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in_the_know
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Posted - 06/18/2012 : 10:34:40
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The first thing I'd recommend you do is ask your son what it is that he wants out of his baseball experience. If he wants to compete at higher levels, against tougher competition, grow his skills and improve on his baseball, then that's a start. You should share with him that there are a lot of sacrifices that he'll need to make. Not sure how your all-star experience has been, but there are a lot of birthday parties, swim days, sleep overs, etc., that will be lost because of practice and tournaments. You need to be upfront with him and make sure that he has an appreciation and is willing to make that trade. What does come from the experience for him is making a lot of new friends, traveling to many different parks, experiencing much more competitive ball, etc. It takes a lot of dedication to play travel ball.
Also, be realistic with your kid's opportunity to succeed. Is he doing well to above average at the all-star level? Consider that he'll be playing against players that are mostly better than the all-star player, so be sure that your son will be able to adapt to "possibly" less success than he has to this point. Likewise, he may succeed tremendously well and rise to the advanced level of competition to surprise even you. There are times that my sons cause me to shake my head in disbelief at what they are able to do at times.
After you've sorted out the goals and expectations for you and your son, figure out what they are for your family. You'll need to make serious sacrifices with your finances and time. If you have other children (and they have activities), you'll be splitting your weekends heading in different directions, or carting the siblings to spend 6-12 hour days at ballparks. Can you afford the cost beyond the typical $1,000-$2,000 in dues and team expenses? Gas, Food, Gate Fees can run well over $100 per weekend. For out of town tournaments, tack on hotels.
In regard to your thoughts of whether he is good enough to attend tryouts, there's only one way to find out. Jump into some and see how he looks. Also, I would recommend that you and your son attend to watch some tournaments in the age group that he currently plays to see some of the talent level that he'll be jumping in with. See what you think and be realistic with your expectations of your son and his talent level. Most people that get disillusioned with the experience are those who think the sun rises and sets with their son's talent and aren't honest with themselves. When you attend some tourneys, try and watch some major, AAA, AA teams and get a feel for the skill difference at each.
It can be a great experience. There is every level of team out there. Some teams that border at the rec all-star level, so there's always a team that will fit the talent level of your son. If there is an opportunity to be a fill-in player on a team, give it a shot for the weekend. See how he does against the pitching. There isn't a team out there who can't use an extra catcher on a long weekend. It would be a chance to dip your toe and test the water before making a commitment.
Also, continue to ask any specific questions you think of on this forum. There is no shortage of experienced parents happy to share their history to better help folks like yourself new to the scene. |
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mrbama31
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Posted - 06/18/2012 : 11:33:00
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Very Good Post and excellent advise.
quote: Originally posted by in_the_know
The first thing I'd recommend you do is ask your son what it is that he wants out of his baseball experience. If he wants to compete at higher levels, against tougher competition, grow his skills and improve on his baseball, then that's a start. You should share with him that there are a lot of sacrifices that he'll need to make. Not sure how your all-star experience has been, but there are a lot of birthday parties, swim days, sleep overs, etc., that will be lost because of practice and tournaments. You need to be upfront with him and make sure that he has an appreciation and is willing to make that trade. What does come from the experience for him is making a lot of new friends, traveling to many different parks, experiencing much more competitive ball, etc. It takes a lot of dedication to play travel ball.
Also, be realistic with your kid's opportunity to succeed. Is he doing well to above average at the all-star level? Consider that he'll be playing against players that are mostly better than the all-star player, so be sure that your son will be able to adapt to "possibly" less success than he has to this point. Likewise, he may succeed tremendously well and rise to the advanced level of competition to surprise even you. There are times that my sons cause me to shake my head in disbelief at what they are able to do at times.
After you've sorted out the goals and expectations for you and your son, figure out what they are for your family. You'll need to make serious sacrifices with your finances and time. If you have other children (and they have activities), you'll be splitting your weekends heading in different directions, or carting the siblings to spend 6-12 hour days at ballparks. Can you afford the cost beyond the typical $1,000-$2,000 in dues and team expenses? Gas, Food, Gate Fees can run well over $100 per weekend. For out of town tournaments, tack on hotels.
In regard to your thoughts of whether he is good enough to attend tryouts, there's only one way to find out. Jump into some and see how he looks. Also, I would recommend that you and your son attend to watch some tournaments in the age group that he currently plays to see some of the talent level that he'll be jumping in with. See what you think and be realistic with your expectations of your son and his talent level. Most people that get disillusioned with the experience are those who think the sun rises and sets with their son's talent and aren't honest with themselves. When you attend some tourneys, try and watch some major, AAA, AA teams and get a feel for the skill difference at each.
It can be a great experience. There is every level of team out there. Some teams that border at the rec all-star level, so there's always a team that will fit the talent level of your son. If there is an opportunity to be a fill-in player on a team, give it a shot for the weekend. See how he does against the pitching. There isn't a team out there who can't use an extra catcher on a long weekend. It would be a chance to dip your toe and test the water before making a commitment.
Also, continue to ask any specific questions you think of on this forum. There is no shortage of experienced parents happy to share their history to better help folks like yourself new to the scene.
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spliter
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Posted - 06/19/2012 : 16:52:41
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This may sound stupid and should be...but isnt. Make sure your team has a place to practice and set times. I have only practice in our park one time in 8 weeks. We had to lease a field. At 13 Major State an EC team had 10 errors in two games. One of the parents said they havent been able to practice due to no field to practice. Sometimes the big parks are not the place to play when they are small. |
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bbmom2
119 Posts |
Posted - 06/19/2012 : 18:32:02
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Our biggest suggestion would be to target some teams - all different abilities and go watch them play. Watch the coaches and how they treat the players. Look at the discipline on the team - do they run to first ALWAYS? Do they hustle back after striking out? Do they run to first on a WALK? Do the player support each other? Do they seem to be well coached?
Sit in the stands with the parents and listen to them talk. Do they seem to be happy? Do they get along? You spent a lot of time with parents so make sure they seem to be cohesive (or as cohesive as a set can be in June!! LOl!)
Our son made the change between 11 and 12 and we've never looked back. We've thought about playing rec in the fall but then we go watch rec and just can't make ourselves do it. The level of play is so different... Plus at 14 they were still playing 54/80 fields and not 60/90.
Make sure there is an "out" if you go with a team. If you have to pay everything up front, make sure you can get your money back if you leave for valid reasons.
Make sure you go to Cooperstown when he turns 12!!
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peashooter
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Posted - 06/19/2012 : 20:09:23
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post in the section player looking for teams...I bet you can play some games with teams this year. Time is short so don't waste it. Now you will know where your kid fits in.
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kugs
11 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2012 : 09:47:29
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Thank you very much for such great advice! |
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gtown71
86 Posts |
Posted - 06/25/2012 : 15:16:19
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determine why you want to go to travel before you do. i see so many kids getting into travel ball (parents) for the wrong reasons. the parents hear travel ball and just assume that by playing in travel their child will become a better ball player. this isn't a true statement at all. research teams to find out what type of training they offer for the players during the season. we had a coach take 12 players that weren't selected to the allstar team and made a travel team himself. nothing against him or the kids for wanting to play more ball. however, i think it's giving the parents a false sense of hope for some of their kids going forward. the coach is a very nice guy but i can't see him offering any of those kids any advanced training. this is soley based off of watching his rec teams over the last couple of years. sad to say but travel ball is becoming more watered down by the day. |
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