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mkrzem5601

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Posted - 02/22/2012 :  10:09:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Relocating into the North Fulton / Duluth, East Gwinnett area. Don't know anything about the baseball programs there. Son primarily is a pitcher, will be 10th grade in fall. Looking for strong HS program with
experienced coaching heavy on pitcher development.
Would anyone care to offer any suggestions on schools

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Gwinnett

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Posted - 02/22/2012 :  11:31:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
PARKVIEW PANTHERS, Lilburn GA, Gwinnett county. State champions AAAAA last season and were just ranked 8th in the nation. One of the best baseball programs out there! Go PARKVIEW!

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Originally posted by mkrzem5601

Relocating into the North Fulton / Duluth, East Gwinnett area. Don't know anything about the baseball programs there. Son primarily is a pitcher, will be 10th grade in fall. Looking for strong HS program with
experienced coaching heavy on pitcher development.
Would anyone care to offer any suggestions on schools


Edited by - Gwinnett on 02/22/2012 12:23:51
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tripleplay3

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Posted - 02/22/2012 :  18:55:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Roswell High - ranked in top 10 in nation 2 years and didn't even make the regional play offs that year. If your son can pitch he will get a lot of mound, program has a tendacy to burn arms out.
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yarddog

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Posted - 02/22/2012 :  23:16:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do academics have any say in the decision making process or is he going straight to the big leagues after HS? Sometimes we forget that there are far more important questions about relocating than baseball. There are several good teams in that area. However, if you want some good info on particular baseball programs, may I suggest you purchase the Georgia Dugout Preview magazine. It can be bought on-line at http://www.georgiadugoutclub.org/index.php
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jongamefan

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Posted - 02/23/2012 :  09:35:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by tripleplay3

Roswell High - ranked in top 10 in nation 2 years and didn't even make the regional play offs that year. If your son can pitch he will get a lot of mound, program has a tendacy to burn arms out.



TRIP: heard that way out here

caveat emptor
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B-man

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Posted - 02/23/2012 :  11:19:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
pitching development fluctuates year to year in some programs, and is not what you'd want to hang your hat on in making a decision like this. Pick a good school, find the right fit for summer ball,..and if you really want development take care of that on the side with a coach you hand pick and develop a relationship with.
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Gwinnett

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Posted - 02/23/2012 :  14:27:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Correct me if I'm wrong but all the top baseball schools in GA are ranked VERY high in academics as well. So if you pick by baseball you will be getting an excellent education. Then it really boils down to the student? Most all the top baseball HS's were ranked in top 500 nationally for academics in GA.

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Do academics have any say in the decision making process or is he going straight to the big leagues after HS? Sometimes we forget that there are far more important questions about relocating than baseball. There are several good teams in that area. However, if you want some good info on particular baseball programs, may I suggest you purchase the Georgia Dugout Preview magazine. It can be bought on-line at http://www.georgiadugoutclub.org/index.php

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mkrzem5601

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Posted - 02/23/2012 :  16:22:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am grateful for the guidance. Yes, academics are important. He carries a 4.0 and from what I can see, there is not much difference in the top schools in each area I mentioned as it relates to SAT test scores. He plays summers with ECB and has done so for years. Perhaps I should ask the question differently, which schools have the more experienced coaches that understand the long term development needs of baseball players. Again, appreciate the input
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agent21

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Posted - 02/23/2012 :  23:37:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK people time for a reality check. Coaches could be here today, gone tomorrow and you're going to relocate your family based on a baseball program?!

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CoachDad

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Posted - 02/26/2012 :  01:33:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by agent21

OK people time for a reality check. Coaches could be here today, gone tomorrow and you're going to relocate your family based on a baseball program?!





Speaking as a parent who did not think ahead in this way when I relocated with a promising 13 year old in m equation, this is an important element to be considered.

Some programs, unfortunately, are centered around teaching your player to be a kookie dough salesman, groundskeeper or to curry privilege in non-athletic manners at the expense of player or team development.

It is tough enough on a kid to move. Taking into consideration elements of his life that are important to hm is an admirable thing. Coping in retrospect when he is dropped into a loser program is one hassle that is easily enough avoided.
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CoachDad

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Posted - 02/27/2012 :  01:55:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AllStar

quote:
Originally posted by CoachDad

quote:
Originally posted by agent21

OK people time for a reality check. Coaches could be here today, gone tomorrow and you're going to relocate your family based on a baseball program?!





Speaking as a parent who did not think ahead in this way when I relocated with a promising 13 year old in m equation, this is an important element to be considered.

Some programs, unfortunately, are centered around teaching your player to be a kookie dough salesman, groundskeeper or to curry privilege in non-athletic manners at the expense of player or team development.

It is tough enough on a kid to move. Taking into consideration elements of his life that are important to hm is an admirable thing. Coping in retrospect when he is dropped into a loser program is one hassle that is easily enough avoided.



I'd be interested in where an accurate list of loser programs is. All it takes is to talk to one disgruntled parent whose "Little Johnny" didn't start at shortstop from Day 1...

For example, the aforementioned Parkview is an absolutely top notch program and public school, but I'd bet you wouldn't have to look too long to find someone who would badmouth it and if you looked hard enough, it would probably come down to playing time.

Just like any travel team.



Yeah, you are absolutely right. There is only one reason why anyone would look at a baseball program and form an opinion that it is a perinnial loser.

Seriously?

I am sure that if you try, you can think of other reasons you might advise a parent, who is looking to move iinto an area, to cross school x off the list baseball program wise.

Unfortunately, if, as you say, you are taking the word of one disgruntled parent as your research group when conducting a survey in an attempt to compile a list of loser programs, your data set is not liable to be a very accurate predictor.

I reckon that I don't understand the purpose of your post. It seemed to be some veiled insinuation against my motive in suggesting cautionary thought about choosing a high school for a relocating child or some pseododeep social commentary on the propensity of baseball parents to be unrealistic. Sadly, the ellipsis obviously left unsaid too much.

I don't know where an "accurate list of loser programs is'" but I would be happy to steer the OP away from one in particular if that were germane to the topic. Unless, of course, they wanted to spend a few years paying to watch losing baseball.

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mkrzem5601

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Posted - 02/27/2012 :  11:33:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting where this post seems to be headed. Kind of thought it might end up in that direction. As a newcomer, you always want to know where the potential mine fields are located. So I get the drift. After much exploration it looks like Lambert High School in Forsyth County is a good total fit for our family, with Alpharetta High as a second choice. Thanks for the the input.
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bkball

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Posted - 02/28/2012 :  09:40:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If Chipper Jones or Nolan Ryan asked this question would he get a different response?
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