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in_the_know

985 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2011 :  16:28:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Numbers rolling in as expected, WAY down. High Schoolers, get ready for impact next season.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/college/rice/7557752.html

Will be very interesting to see what travel sanctioning organizations will do. USSSA already has their bpf 1.15, which I have yet to see enforced or called into question.

Edited by - in_the_know on 05/17/2011 16:29:08

bballman

1432 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2011 :  22:56:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know the Perfect Game BCS tournament, which is normally a metal bat tournament, will require BBCOR bats this year in July.
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bigredrules

2 Posts

Posted - 05/18/2011 :  14:34:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If the BBCOR bats are designed to have the same thump as wood bats then why not just use wood bats? I would assume that the ripple effect of this will be that the balls will be tweaked so they are traveling further off of a dead bat. I guess in a few years we will all be discussing the new ball regulations.
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Scatbat

39 Posts

Posted - 05/18/2011 :  20:16:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They say the reason is that using wood bats would cost more in the long run due to them breaking more often.
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Hillio

123 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2011 :  01:23:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wood bats have a MUCH smaller sweet spot than even the worst alloy bat on the market. Slight mis-hits with wood will almost always be outs, whereas an alloy bat will be much more forgiving.
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Hillio

123 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2011 :  09:22:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hillio

Wood bats have a MUCH smaller sweet spot than even the worst alloy bat on the market. Slight mis-hits with wood will almost always be outs, whereas an alloy bat will be much more forgiving.


I take that back. Apparently, part of the BBCOR standard requires that the size of the sweet spot be reduced to between 5 and 7 inches.

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/rules/baseball/bats/NCAA%20BBCOR%20Protocol%20FINAL%205%2009.pdf

I think most wood bats are between -1 and -3 as far as weight, so teams that are still allowed to use -5 or -10 probably wouldn't want to switch anyway.
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Infield Fly

9 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2011 :  11:08:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bballman

I know the Perfect Game BCS tournament, which is normally a metal bat tournament, will require BBCOR bats this year in July.


Perfect game 14U does not require BBCOR bats, just fyi...but you are correct about 15U & up @ Perfect game.
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cam1

39 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2011 :  11:33:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What about 15u triple crown?
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Dr. Old School

314 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2011 :  12:37:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Triple Crown allows you to use the BESR certified bats, even the Composite bats. Expect them to follow suit and go to BBCOR bats next year, though.
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Four Seam

28 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2011 :  14:33:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This has the biggest effect on the lesser hitters. The good hitters will always hit. The ok and bad hitters will not have the crutch of the bigger sweet spot and more pop. In the end, the cream will rise to the top and the pretenders will be exposed. Thats not a bad thing. The ones that work hard will see the payoff.
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in_the_know

985 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2011 :  15:17:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cam1

What about 15u triple crown?



From their website - 2001 Bat Rules:
2011 Bat Rules

13u and Younger: No bat restrictions (must be a “Baseball” bat).

14u Only: -5 or -3 weight/length differential allowed. All -3 bats must be BESR or BBCOR certified. All composite bats with BESR or BBCOR stamp are allowed for 2011.

15u and Older: Must use -3 bat with BESR or BBCOR certification. All composite bats with BESR or BBCOR stamp are allowed for 2011.


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Scorekeeper

35 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2011 :  18:55:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
<<< The good hitters will always hit. The ok and bad hitters will not have the crutch of the bigger sweet spot and more pop. In the end, the cream will rise to the top and the pretenders will be exposed. >>>

Exactly the way I see it.
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gasbag

281 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2011 :  08:41:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We're swinging BBCOR this year as 14U....I could care less about his 14U stats. It's all about his future and not the present ! Learn to adapt, overcome and improvise and you'll succeed.
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Calif_Baseball

292 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2011 :  13:57:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well Calif has already gone to the BBCOR bat this year with good results. Last year a kid on a local high school hit 23 HR as a JR. This year he is bigger and Stronger and only hit 5 HR. Welcome to Small Ball and Real Baseball. They days of the BIG SLOW kids are over.

Here are the New Regulations for USSSA. They just put them out on 5/16/2011

http://www.usssa.com/usssa/usssa-general/2011-12NewBaseballBatMarksGrandfatheringRulesAnnouncement.pdf
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justletemplay

46 Posts

Posted - 05/26/2011 :  15:09:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am all for the new bats at 13 or so. A lot of the "talent" out there won't look as attractive when they have to actually play baseball with a wood comparable product, then the real athletes will emerge. Youth baseball rules and metal help to ensure smaller kids get a chance to play. Metal disguises poor swing mechanics and kids who have fast hands now, but have never learned to incorporate their lower half. When the ball is smokin thru the strike zone some of those kids are not going to be able to adjust to a bat where the weight is mostly in the head and needs to be 34 + inches to get plate coverage. It is going to diminish the competition and pool of players because you can only use so many short, fast guys. If ya can't hit, ya sit.
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