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biged
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 Posted - 01/17/2011 : 20:05:47
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| My 16u Sophomre son has taken interest in weight training as a way to improve his baseball skills. What weight gain/muscle supplements are out there now? Things have changed since I was young, i.e. Joe Weiders weight gain powder, milk, and raw eggs. |
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Cardsfan17
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Posted - 01/17/2011 : 22:02:25
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| There are several versions of weight gain and muscle supplements currently on the market. Muscle milk is a popular version and doesn't taste terrible. Weight Gainer 2000 Gold packs a ton of calories and will work well for adding weight if you can choke it down. My best advice would be to go to your local GNC. Stay away from the pills that promise to do it all. |
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Mets69
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Posted - 01/18/2011 : 09:32:39
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I would be very cautious about using supplements, since many of them may contain hidden steroids. As the following article from the NY Times notes ...
"Unlike drug makers, which must demonstrate that a drug is safe and effective before the agency approves it for sale to the public, dietary supplements are a largely self-regulating industry."
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/29/health/nutrition/29drug.html
My son attended a workout at ECB a few months back and the guest instructor basically told all the kids to stay away from supplements. |
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coachdan06
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Posted - 01/18/2011 : 22:54:47
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STAY AWAY FROM SUPPLEMENTS THE BODY IS NOT MADE TO WORK THAT WAY
GET AN EDUCATION - DONT TRY TO GET AHEAD BY CHEATING YOUR BODY TO TRYING AND BUY YOURSELF IN TO BEING SOMEONE YOU ARE NOT - SPORTS ALWAYS END !! |
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9U Coach
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Posted - 01/19/2011 : 08:26:12
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| Come on!!!! There is nothing wrong with supplementation if done right. We are not talking about HGH or anabolic steroids here. My wife is a pediatric nurse who works for a nationally known pediatrician who was the head of pediatrics at Scottish Rite. He says that there is nothing wrong with protien supplements. They contiain amino acids and other vitamins that are good for kids at any age in moderation. Not to mention, most of these supplements contain a lot of the same ingrediants that are in baby formula. Especially at 16 yrs old, a shake a day is not going to hurt. |
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G-Man
326 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2011 : 09:28:33
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You can get varying opinions depending on who you ask. However my wife is a Doctor of Pharmacy and they have to take more 4x the course hours than MD's as it relates to Med Chemistry. Which is the study of drugs and other chemicals and their effects on the body. According to my wife too much protein is harmful to the kidneys at the younger age groups. I dont remember the formula but it is based on weight. Its like so many grams of protein per pounds is considered safe. However too much protein is not safe for a young mans kidneys.
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Originally posted by 9U Coach
Come on!!!! There is nothing wrong with supplementation if done right. We are not talking about HGH or anabolic steroids here. My wife is a pediatric nurse who works for a nationally known pediatrician who was the head of pediatrics at Scottish Rite. He says that there is nothing wrong with protien supplements. They contiain amino acids and other vitamins that are good for kids at any age in moderation. Not to mention, most of these supplements contain a lot of the same ingrediants that are in baby formula. Especially at 16 yrs old, a shake a day is not going to hurt.
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beanball
222 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2011 : 10:01:32
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G-Man
Our family doctor has said the same thing about protien and kidneys. I also know a friend that was heavy into protien supplements and he suddenly & unexpectedly expperienced kidney falure at a very young age - mid 30's. Nearly died and to this day has minimal kidney function.
Not worth the risk. |
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CoachDad
52 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2011 : 15:29:11
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| Beans, rice, potatoes, bread... chocolate cake, ribeye steak, bacon, eggs, milk. |
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PowerAlley
6 Posts |
Posted - 01/20/2011 : 20:10:15
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| If you are going to take protein supplements, I would recommend 100% whey protein with nothing else added (read the labels). Also, don’t overdo it. The amount of protein you need each day is based on your weight and activity. A lot of articles, especially by those written by companies that sell supplements, say that elite athletes need twice the protein as an average person. From what I’ve read, the RDA in grams for an average person is calculated by dividing your weight by 2.2 and multiplying the results by 0.8 (e.g., (150 lbs/2.2)x0.8 = 54 grams a day). Since too much protein is hard on your kidneys, as others have mentioned, be sure to drink plenty of water (8-10 8oz bottles of water a day). |
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beanball
222 Posts |
Posted - 01/20/2011 : 21:14:08
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| My wife makes milk shakes with ice cream, peanut buter and malt. There's about 1,000 calories in a glass |
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RACGOFAR
208 Posts |
Posted - 01/20/2011 : 22:22:28
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| My junior takes Whey protein in isolate form after workouts. Promotes muscle development/regeneration. He is a vegetarian. I don't think there is anything else I would let him take besides that. |
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oldschooldad
203 Posts |
Posted - 01/20/2011 : 22:29:12
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| interesting topic. Not sure where I personally stand on this because all of mine are big kids and don't need to "bulk up." I will say this however. Talk to your doctor before doing anything. A matter as important as the health and well being of your kid should be addressed by a medical expert and not a much of (mostly) dads posting opinions without knowing all the details. IMHO. |
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bestplayinbaseball
67 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2011 : 08:40:25
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| There is a correct way to supplement. Don't guess. Find someone in the field of nutrition. You can try and get knowledgeable about nutrition, or rebuilding a car engine, but if you do not have the 1st clue about either you'll make a lot of costly mistakes. Not just monetary mistakes. That's an entirely different concern than health impact related mistakes. And like a mechanic, there will be many opinions. |
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oldmanmj
191 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2011 : 10:02:31
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What age are we talking about giving supplements too? Are we so bent on being #1 that we would risk our kids health to win? What happened to eating right, waiting for puberty and working hard. Supplements were orginally made to help those that can't process or generate certain items within their own physical make up. They used to be prescribed, back in the day. Not we pop them like candy. Do we lift weights at 9 or 15? What do we take to be stronger, faster....?
Better asked; What happened to, hard work and desire = success? There are no short cuts. You can feed them all the instant muscle you want, but it still doesn't make up for the pure desire to learn, compete, fail or succeed, then do it all again. Every body is different, every brain is different, every desire is different, how about letting it play out naturally and then see what you have. Aren't there a million stories about the kids that didn't play any sports or couldn't even make their teams until they were seniors in high school or got to college?
How about the 100 of millions that do this every year and still can't play any sport competently. Be careful with your wonderful sons, they are great young men first with fresh minds. Build their hearts, minds and souls first, the rest will come naturally. |
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PMaggio
11 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2011 : 12:16:02
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| Supplements can be hit or miss these days unless you know what you are doing. Talking to someone in the know as suggested above is paramount. What I do for my teenager, and what my parents did for me when I was that age, is to always have some pasta with cut up chicken breasts or some twice baked potatoes in the fridge for him to snack on. We usually make it on Sunday nights and put it in the fridge. Whenever he gets hungry after getting home from school or practice, in between meals, ... I just point him there. At this age, they just need fuel, as long as they are active, the muscle mass will come naturally. |
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Critical Mass
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muscle/weight gain supplements?
