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stanlewis

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Posted - 08/24/2010 :  08:35:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I moved this to a new topic to keep the instructor listing on topic.

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Originally posted by BaseballMomof2

Question for those of you who hire coaches for you sons:

How often do you recommend lessons be - weekly, bi-weekly more often than weekly?
How long should lessons be? How about if you are doing hitting and pitching lessons at the same time? How long for each and how often?
Also, do you recommend this for year round or just when baseball season is on or some other schedule?

My son has been doing hitting and pitching lessons once a week, same day for both. Pitching first for 30 min then hitting for 30 minutes. Seems like to much to me. 20 minutes pitching and 20 minutes hitting seems to me to be enough.

Would appreciate your ideas and opinions.

dmb350

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Posted - 08/24/2010 :  10:12:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by dmb350

I would say 1 lesson a week is plenty unless you son is learning something new and you can't be sure he's keeping the mechanics right. The length of the lesson just depends on what you're working on. Flat out bullpen sessions with no real time taken up with a lot of instruction can go fast but if drills or heavy hands on is added then it takes more time. Same applies for hitting.


Bottom line is that the skills acquired during lessons MUST be practiced regularly or else you've wasted your money. To answer your question, I doubt your son is getting as much from whatever he's training last regardless of the length of the lesson. I'd suggest splitting them up but that's just me.

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Alter-Ego

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Posted - 08/24/2010 :  13:07:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is a hugely "Relative" topic. It has the most to do with what are they trying to work on. Is it general development or are they specifically trying to fix something. My rule of thumb has always been once a week for P and hitting, for 30 minutes each with general development. If something is being specifically worked on, like a mechanical flaw, you may need to go to 2 days a week for that particular activity. What most people try to do is do every bit of their work in a lesson format. For each session you do on general development, you need to do 2 days of that activity outside of the lesson. Otherwise you don't reinforce what you are learning. I would never recommend anyone do more than a 30 minute session for either pitching or hitting. After 30 minutes of one-on-one work you have a lot of reps in and can start slipping on their mechanics. Lessons are for development. "Outside the lesson" work is for the continued muscle memory.

This is just my opinion and is worth what you pay for it. I am sure others have great input.
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Steel-Will

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Posted - 08/24/2010 :  14:23:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Alter - That's pretty much what I've done unintentionally after observing my son. After 30 minutes, his focus is deminished and the newness begins to wear down and reps get sloppier. Some training tried to INSIST that I do an hour, but I found 30 minutes at this age is good.

Any thoughts on how many days per week to long-toss? Is two enough? Is four too many?
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Alter-Ego

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Posted - 08/25/2010 :  10:41:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nobody's schedule is perfect, and I am sure there are several other opinions but if I was putting together a "Blue Sky" schedule, this would be it:

M - Hit and Long toss/light pen work
T - exercise/run
W - Pitching lesson
TH - Hitting Lesson
FR - off
SA - Hit and Long toss/light pen work
SU - exercise/run
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dmb350

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Posted - 08/25/2010 :  14:38:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Half that schedule, if done right/regular would be more work than 90% of players get now on average. Looks like a great schedule.

Let's get some details on a typical long toss workout since we're on the subject.
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BaseballMomof2

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Posted - 08/25/2010 :  14:43:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks y'all, for the advice. We decided to split up the hitting and pitching lessons. Hitting for 30 min one day and pitching for 30 minutes another day. That with either games or team practices two days a week keeps him busy with baseball work 4 days of the week.
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zman

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Posted - 08/26/2010 :  13:06:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think long toss should be done 3 times a week and maybe the 4th day football toss to break it up and add some fun to the workout.
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PumknHead

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Posted - 09/01/2010 :  18:15:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alter-Ego

Nobody's schedule is perfect, and I am sure there are several other opinions but if I was putting together a "Blue Sky" schedule, this would be it:

M - Hit and Long toss/light pen work
T - exercise/run
W - Pitching lesson
TH - Hitting Lesson
FR - off
SA - Hit and Long toss/light pen work
SU - exercise/run


Would you do this the entire off season? How would this be modified during the season?
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Alter-Ego

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Posted - 09/02/2010 :  06:29:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
PH,
I would stay with the schedule as much as i could in the off season. The weather will become a factor on the long tossing, though.
A weighted ball program could be substituted in for the long toss when it gets cold an long tossing outside is no longer an option. I would NEVER recommend doing a weighted ball program unsupervised. Learn one from an experienced instructor.
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