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crackedbats
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 Posted - 06/28/2010 : 06:41:44
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| so the question is how many teams will the 15u group field next year at ECB. If rumors are true some teams wont be back. What teams will fill their slots? Will there be less making many teams ultra competitive? Outside of ECB who will be around? Will the major independent teams like the PC Vipers still be around next year? It will be an interesting next few weeks to see what shakes out. |
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Top Gun
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Posted - 06/28/2010 : 17:56:57
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| Just some caution, when you throw out this kind of topic it starts rumor mills that are not based on truth. Many teams have not finished their seasons and it serves no purpose other than to put pressure on coaches to have an answer way before their season is done. And it's not fair to the players just because some parents outside of their team want to know what's going on. Teams will communicate with their families in due time, and will post their tryout information soon enough if they plan to return. But let's don't rush them. |
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teddy41
421 Posts |
Posted - 06/28/2010 : 20:37:00
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| i heard some parents for one of the teams already saying coaches wanted committment for next year now or they would not hold a spot. IF ec is holding tryouts soon its not too early to start this topic |
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jongamefan
218 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2010 : 00:04:13
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HA now THAT takes the cake y'all
Fourth of July hasnt passed already teams need comittments for Feb thru July baseball 2011 ?
Id suggest an answer but it wouldnt be printed
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Originally posted by teddy41
i heard some parents for one of the teams already saying coaches wanted committment for next year now or they would not hold a spot. IF ec is holding tryouts soon its not too early to start this topic
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Top Gun
59 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2010 : 10:56:41
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| The 15U season is actually May-July, and for the upper level teams who have kids making Varsity, late May. Any team requiring your commitment now is selling you a used car. |
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coachdan06
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Posted - 06/30/2010 : 03:45:36
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Originally posted by teddy41
i heard some parents for one of the teams already saying coaches wanted committment for next year now or they would not hold a spot. IF ec is holding tryouts soon its not too early to start this topic
Must be joking !
If this is true its all about the coach and his competing with the other coaches , so its nothing considerate to the player and his family |
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gasbag
281 Posts |
Posted - 06/30/2010 : 10:37:29
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This always is an amusing time and a confusing time ! I tell my son, when you commit to a team, it's for the season....the entire season. We set goals as a team and as individual players to accomplish throughout the season. If you take care of your business on the field, for your current team, you will not have to worry about "trying out" for any team ! If you accept the mentality that every time you step out onto that sacred field, it is a tryout....that you go 100% ALL the time....then any coach worth his salt will respect you, your efforts, your teams efforts and the game. They will know your capabilities, work ethic and mentality, long before they begin their "tryouts" for the next season. ANY coach whom does not respect an athletes existing season and their commitment to their existing TEAM, coach and families...well, in my opinion, that coach is selfish, more worried about himself ( or his son ) and not worthy of playing for.
I shall now step down off of my soap box !!!!! |
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Taterhater
66 Posts |
Posted - 06/30/2010 : 13:13:52
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So saith the Gasbag! All hail Gasbag!
I completely agree with you, man. |
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Alter-Ego
802 Posts |
Posted - 06/30/2010 : 16:11:42
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I have actually seen the reverse of this happen as well. If the coach does not start talking to parents about next year, by the middle of June, they start to think that he is looking at going a different direction and they are not included. A sense of panic starts to set in, and will at times start to look elsewhere for other options. That begins the domino effect.
I definately do not agree with a coach trying to force a committment from a player this early, but they also have to get a sense of how many they will potentially have coming back and which holes they need to fill.
They don't call this time of year "Free Agent Period" for nothing. |
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Lou
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Posted - 07/01/2010 : 13:26:58
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Originally posted by gasbag
If you take care of your business on the field, for your current team, you will not have to worry about "trying out" for any team ! ...
My son has played travel ball for five seasons. He has always taken care of business on the field. Of the five teams he has played for:
- Two of them disbanded in controversy after the season
- One of them had a complete turnover of the coaching staff
- One of them had all of the players except for the coaches kids leave the team, and for good reason
- The jury is still out over the fifth team
He has had to tryout for either a new set of coaches or a whole new team every year. |
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coachdan06
433 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2010 : 00:14:15
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Lou you either ran into coaches who couldnt lead a group of people or just as possible had a good coach with leadership skills but rotten parents who didnt get there way and they ruined it for everyone else so the team crumbled.
It only takes a few we've seen as much of one as the other
Be as wary of the team families as the coaches !!
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Originally posted by Lou
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Originally posted by gasbag
If you take care of your business on the field, for your current team, you will not have to worry about "trying out" for any team ! ...
My son has played travel ball for five seasons. He has always taken care of business on the field. Of the five teams he has played for:
- Two of them disbanded in controversy after the season
- One of them had a complete turnover of the coaching staff
- One of them had all of the players except for the coaches kids leave the team, and for good reason
- The jury is still out over the fifth team
He has had to tryout for either a new set of coaches or a whole new team every year.
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Lou
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Posted - 07/02/2010 : 09:36:38
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Originally posted by coachdan06
Lou you either ran into coaches who couldnt lead a group of people or just as possible had a good coach with leadership skills but rotten parents who didnt get there way and they ruined it for everyone else so the team crumbled.
IMHO one time was due to parents, once was simply that the coaches retired because their personal goals had been met. The others were definitely due to coaching leadership issues.
My point was that sometimes, just taking care of business is not enough, stuff happens that a kid can't control. |
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gasbag
281 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2010 : 10:50:35
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Originally posted by Lou
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Originally posted by coachdan06
Lou you either ran into coaches who couldnt lead a group of people or just as possible had a good coach with leadership skills but rotten parents who didnt get there way and they ruined it for everyone else so the team crumbled.
IMHO one time was due to parents, once was simply that the coaches retired because their personal goals had been met. The others were definitely due to coaching leadership issues.
My point was that sometimes, just taking care of business is not enough, stuff happens that a kid can't control.
Lou - I'm not suggesting that things like you listed don't occur because I've observed them as well. I'm simply suggesting that if an athlete takes care of his business on the field, other Coaches, players and parents & umpires, scouts etc. will see that. A ballplayer cannot control many things but he can control his own performance. If he controls his performance consistently and to his highest ability, he'll develop a favorable reputation. The favorable reputation will capture other coaches attention and they'll seek him out come recruitment time. Has he "tried out" for them yet on an individual basis, probably not formally, but informally he's tried out for them by his on field performance against them and others. I've heard this time and again from a variety of coaches regarding a variety of players, " I've seen him play, he doesn't need to workout for me because I know I already know what he can do and I want him" !
Likewise, if the athlete displays negative characteristics throughout a season, like not hustling, arguing with blue, talking back to the coaches, making bad baseball decisions, displaying poor sportsmanship etc., he's developing a negative reputation. Chances are when recruiting time comes around, he won't be sought out by the Coaches because his "informal" tryout was failed.
Now, this is not to suggest that a player is guaranteed a position. The coach must go through his "due diligence" on each and every athlete to make sure he wants them on his team and to make sure they want to be on his team. It's a two way PROCESS. I'm simply saying the way to get on a coaches radar, is to treat your games, your practices as you would a tryout and go all out. That part you can control. Each and every game and practice is an opportunity for you to showcase your skills....whether to your existing coach or perhaps another coach or scouts etc. |
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mrbama31
252 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2010 : 10:55:46
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I don't understand why this seems to upset you...This does not imply that the current player/players are NOT appreciated. What it does imply is that the coach may have many NEW player options. He is giving the current players the option to commit if they are not ready then he is simply letting them know that he is NOT going to pass on new player oprotunities. It also does not imply that if there is an opening on the team when the parents/player decides that he is NOT welcome on the team IF there is an open spot. Lets NOT bash the coach for simply communicating where he/the team is at for the next seasons roster. Seems a little early to me but NOT unfair.
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Originally posted by jongamefan
HA now THAT takes the cake y'all
Fourth of July hasnt passed already teams need comittments for Feb thru July baseball 2011 ?
Id suggest an answer but it wouldnt be printed
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Originally posted by teddy41
i heard some parents for one of the teams already saying coaches wanted committment for next year now or they would not hold a spot. IF ec is holding tryouts soon its not too early to start this topic
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teddy41
421 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2010 : 13:01:32
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| I would almost say every year that at least 2-3 will quit due to either not getting the playtime that mommy and daddy think they deserve or maybe they had to bat below 5th in the batting order and they got their feelings hurt. Good luck in high school parents and kids when it will be fundraising and sitting that you will get your letter in |
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14U ECB Stallions
16 Posts |
Posted - 07/18/2010 : 14:27:54
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| The 14U ECB Stallions are moving to Sandy Plains in 2011 for the 15U summer travel season and will become the 15U Sandy Plains Wildcats. You can read more about our plans inside the High School Age Team Openings or Tryouts page. |
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crackedbats
160 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2010 : 11:41:35
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Anyone have anymore insight as to what teams will be back next year? I know Astros, Titans and Yankees (Formerly Warriors). Heard Longhorns thru grapevine will be back. Stallions are gone from ECB to SP. Rawlings is an unknown. Shamrocks moving out to Kennesaw Mtn HS? Cobras? Braves are supposedly gone..Phillies?
Are there any permanent coaches at the 15u ages group that will have teams next year?
Anyone know anything about the Atl Bluejay program?
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ecguy24
26 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2010 : 15:31:17
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| Rawlings are breaking up. |
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123baseball456
2 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2010 : 15:14:50
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| My son plays for EC Rawlings and we have not heard this! Is there something we should know? |
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ecguy24
26 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2010 : 10:39:46
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| yes there is!! start looking for a new team!! |
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JimShwatz
34 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2010 : 14:40:06
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| Please don't tell me coaches are letting parents now there is no longer a team via this website. Not a class move! |
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123baseball456
2 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2010 : 14:43:57
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| If you know more then spill it! Lets not say just a little! |
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Lefty8
67 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2010 : 17:09:50
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| Does anyone know anything about the EC 14u Patriots? I understand they have and older group of teams 16 thru 18 that are pretty good. We have heard mixed rumors that they will be a good team and that they won't. Does anyone know anything about them. |
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Alter-Ego
802 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2010 : 21:06:14
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| The Patriots in the older age groups are the Scholastic teams. They require a certain GPA to play and showcase for Ivy League schools, if my memory serves me correctly. |
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dmb350
135 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2010 : 20:13:51
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It's a good program with a lot of focus on all areas of player development including grades and they do a lot for the older boys (16 and up) but....
You might want to be sure to ask the coach the cost for the season (both Fall and Spring), unless it's changed they were well north of both the Astros, Titans and Roadrunners and they've typically been a decent AAA team but not competitive at the Majors level.
Research, research, research prior to commitment. |
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