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Yankeeclipper
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 Posted - 06/01/2010 : 07:56:33
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I agree with Tball: as an example, the Bandits played 4 games and two of the games were against the 16th seed. The team they played twice had a losing record last year [Triple Crown and USSSA tournaments] and has played very little this year [Triple Crown, Nations, and USSSA tournaments]and lost more games than won. My impressions is that there was only one top notch team there, the Bandits. A couple of other teams were good, but not great.
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Originally posted by Tball
Congratulations to the Bandits, however this tournament does not seem to be as strong as advertised earlier in the year. Yes there were some great teams... but not the best in the nation as had been advertised. I am not taking away anything from anyone!
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baseballpapa
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Posted - 06/01/2010 : 09:16:06
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Tball: It is obvious that you are not a big fan of the Bandits and we have absolutely no problem with that. Some teams you love and some you don't but let's all remember that they are all 11 years old.
I want to respond to your opinion that this was not that great of a tournament. I state for the record that it was one of the toughest tournaments that the Georgia Bandits have ever attended and we have been through the gauntlet of travel baseball tournaments.
I will give you some facts where you only gave us your opinion. According to a travel baseball ranking organization 4 of the top Ten 11 year old baseball teams in the nation attended this tournament with the Bandits being one of these team. According to the same ranking exactly 1/2 of the top ten (5) in the Southeastern Region attended this tournament. You tell me one place in the nation that can match this lineup and I will eat your hat if I can find out who you play for. (No salt will be needed.) Even the 2 Super NIT's of this past weekend cannot come close to the caliber of teams at this event. Before you commented did you at least take the time to come to the fields and see these teams. These teams represented themselves well and should all be commended for having the courage to come to this event. The level of baseball played at this tournament this weekend was as high as this age group can play and it was fun to watch these kids do things that they should not be doing at this age.
I had a blast watching and I saw some of the very best games of the year played this weekend and I watched most all of the great matchups.
MBA Pride was invited, accepted and later declined. Who's fault is that. Lynn Haven was asked late and had already had other plan's. Oklahoma Rays were coming at one point and then couldn't attend. If they had come 7 of the top 10 teams in the nation would have been there and the only way this tournament could have been any better than it was is that the above teams could have found a way to have been there. 4 of the top 10 in the nation will always make for a strong tournament and we feel very fortunate to have won it.
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TAZ980002
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Posted - 06/01/2010 : 11:35:49
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Originally posted by Yankeeclipper
I agree with Tball: as an example, the Bandits played 4 games and two of the games were against the 16th seed. The team they played twice had a losing record last year [Triple Crown and USSSA tournaments] and has played very little this year [Triple Crown, Nations, and USSSA tournaments]and lost more games than won. My impressions is that there was only one top notch team there, the Bandits. A couple of other teams were good, but not great.
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Originally posted by Tball
Congratulations to the Bandits, however this tournament does not seem to be as strong as advertised earlier in the year. Yes there were some great teams... but not the best in the nation as had been advertised. I am not taking away anything from anyone!
YC, I am anxiously awaiting a post from you that is complimentary of anyone besides MBA Pride. |
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Spartan4
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Posted - 06/01/2010 : 11:36:19
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| Tball and YankeeClipper......Y'all are insane if you don't think this was a strong tourney, sure there were a couple weak teams but the Bandits played TPSA and the Bay Bombers on sunday. The Bombers beat Sandtown who beat the Dirtbags. This was a great tourney but if the Bandits were the only good team in the tourney then who are the other good teams in the country?? The Bombers have proven they can beat anybody and have played some extremely tough games. Also, if I'm not mistaken they made it pretty deep in the Elite 32 last July. Was that just luck?? This was the best weekend tourney I have been able to watch in quite some time. Just like every year a couple teams dominate their particular region then meet at Disney to see who the #1 in the nation is, but until then I think it would be pretty safe to say that the Bay Bombers, Dirtbags, Sandtown, and TPSA are "good" teams |
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ERROR ON 6
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Posted - 06/01/2010 : 13:41:33
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What has happened to the 643 teams this year, did going to 2 teams spread the talent to thin? It seems like they went from one of the top teams in the country last year to two above average teams this year?
Team Georgia seems to have dropped off a little lately as well, while Sandtown is gaining speed
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Yankeeclipper
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Posted - 06/01/2010 : 13:45:07
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I fully agree! The teams cited below are certainly "good" teams but not "great". The Bay Bombers are the best of the bunch and recently have lost to a AAA team, been shutout twice, and scored too few runs to be considered a "great" team. The Bandits have been and still are a "great" team. I don't think it is appropriate to get upset when someone writes that playing a 16th seeded team twice in 4 games is not playing good competition.
It is also true that the number of good teams at that tournament was greater than most of the super NITs recently held in Florida, Georgia, and Alabama.
I'm not trying to take anything away from the Bandits, but they did have an easy road to that championship game. I know that they would have won anyway, so there is no need to try to glorify the teams that they played.
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Originally posted by Spartan4
Tball and YankeeClipper......Y'all are insane if you don't think this was a strong tourney, sure there were a couple weak teams but the Bandits played TPSA and the Bay Bombers on sunday. The Bombers beat Sandtown who beat the Dirtbags. This was a great tourney but if the Bandits were the only good team in the tourney then who are the other good teams in the country?? The Bombers have proven they can beat anybody and have played some extremely tough games. Also, if I'm not mistaken they made it pretty deep in the Elite 32 last July. Was that just luck?? This was the best weekend tourney I have been able to watch in quite some time. Just like every year a couple teams dominate their particular region then meet at Disney to see who the #1 in the nation is, but until then I think it would be pretty safe to say that the Bay Bombers, Dirtbags, Sandtown, and TPSA are "good" teams
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HAWKS8
70 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2010 : 14:19:44
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I am going add a comment.
I am going to echo the comments about Shannon Ivey. I have played in a lot of his tournaments and believe him to be one of the best tournament directors I have come across for the hopitality he shows to the sport. There were NO 15 run rule games, a hand few 10 run games and 16 games won on 5 runs or less. All teams can have up and down days hence the 10 run games, but all in all the games were very competitive from what I saw. Even the big win games I saw were close with the exception of an inning that got out of hand. I am assuming I am one of the "not highest competition" teams as we were one of those teams who lost by a couple of runs against 2 highly ranked major teams, but for us we saw this as a win. We were able to go out and compete against all the best teams in the south. We held our own for the most part and we were proud of that. I am hearing how this was not the tournament as advertised some were hoping for, but from where I stood, there were very few teams able to make a comment that they had a walk in the park to get through games. I watched some very good teams that I had always understood to be unbeatable...get beat. The Bandits played very well and are very strong. There is no doubt in my mind the team that beats them at full capacity is a force to be reckon with. I think for the Goliath teams out there, Shannon gave you a great tournament, for us David's, he gave us a great memory. |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2010 : 16:09:24
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| Back in Papa's Civil War days I would have been offended by Yankee Clipper's remarks but Papa has learned to tolerate a lot even Yankee's. Yankee Clipper seems to be a fan of the MBA Pride and Papa has held his tongue as I think the MBA kids are as good as they come but if the ole Clipper wants to tell things the way they are then he will mention that MBA has been beat 7 times this year and the Bandits twice by 11 year old teams. Bay Bombers beat the Pride the Bandits beat the Bombers, Lynn Haven beat the Pride and Bandits but the Bandits beat Lynn Haven and MBA hasn't. I am proud of our kids and will point out very clearly that this is not about who can pee the furthest but about teaching these kids the game of baseball and attempt to get them ready for bigger and better things that lay ahead of them. I state again that 4 of the top 10 in the nation were in this tournament and that 5 of the top ten in the Southeast were in this tournament. Now instead of worrying about the Bandits I would like for the Clipper Dipper and Tball tell us all how many top 10 teams were playing Lynn Haven or MBA this weekend and in case they don't want to answer Papa will tell you all that the answer is ZERO. Now please don't think that this is aimed at Lynn Haven or MBA Pride because Papa loves them both and this is just to answer Yankee Clipper and Tball that both seem to love trashing any team that is not theirs. I would also ask Yankee Clipper if he did any research on any other team other than the 16 seed. Did he not know that 3 teams in this tournament were higher ranked than the Bandits nationally. |
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moss21
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Posted - 06/01/2010 : 16:45:35
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| I have read all the post about the tournament last weekend and everyone has talked about the strong teams in the tournament,but hardly anything about the Ga. Academy team.Whoever is on this page has to admit that the G.A. team has made a pretty good improvment from the first of the year. We beat the Memphis Outlaws and 6-4-3 Cougars on Sunday before we ran up with the Bandits,which opened the bats up on us and I tip my hat to them. You have to give us a little credit. |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2010 : 20:00:07
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| I saw moss21 and his little guys play the 643 Cougars and was very impressed with the progress that they have made since we saw them earlier. They play with grit and that will continue to win them a lot of games. |
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doublebogey
11 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2010 : 20:38:34
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| Doesn't the #1 seed ALWAYS play the #16 seed in a 16 team tournament?? It sounds like YC's argument is that a one seed "avoids" the tough teams since they always play the "worst" team in the tournament the first round of bracket play. I bet ole Papa is scatching his Silver Creek head over that logic. |
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TAZ980002
831 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2010 : 20:38:57
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Originally posted by moss21
I have read all the post about the tournament last weekend and everyone has talked about the strong teams in the tournament,but hardly anything about the Ga. Academy team.Whoever is on this page has to admit that the G.A. team has made a pretty good improvment from the first of the year. We beat the Memphis Outlaws and 6-4-3 Cougars on Sunday before we ran up with the Bandits,which opened the bats up on us and I tip my hat to them. You have to give us a little credit.
Moss, you are absolutely correct in my opinion. The GA Acad Red was a last minute addition to this tournament and they made it to the semi-finals before losing to the eventual tournament winners. You guys have a lot to be proud of for sure. We have played you guys twice this year and gave us all we could handle the first time around. It was a little easier for us this last time but we are playing much better now and almost 100% healthy. I hope the good Lord doesn't allow any more injuries to our boys this year. It has been an injury plagued year for the Bandits. |
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Whitlow
211 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2010 : 21:15:58
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It's sad that some people would say the Memorial Day Invitational tournament in Winder didn't have that strong of competition. It was disappointing that some teams didn't make it, but the competition was very strong.
The Dirt Bags are one of the best if not the best from North Carolina. In the Battle of the South and they made it to the final four teams getting eliminated by the Bandits.
The Cincinnati Stix also made it to the final four at the Battle of the South and gave the Bandits all they bargained for in the championship there with the Bandits winning 8-6.
The Bay Bombers are one of the best teams out of Florida and their record speaks for itself.
The TPSA team from Alabama is a fantastic team that gave other teams fits this weekend and had a 14-6 win over the Cincy Stix.
Team Georgia which is a fantastic team was only knocked out by a 3-2 win by the Bay Bombers.
The Sandtown RedSox knocked out some very good teams before getting beat by the Bay Bombers by only one run.
Georgia Academy Red which is fairly new had everyone talking before this tournament and they showed why, but they ran into a wall when they got to the Bandits.
Sorry if I left anyone out, but they were all good teams so please don't discredit them by saying this tournament didn't have great competition.
One thing for sure is that sometimes the Bandits make it look easy against very very good teams and that may skew your viewpoint. I think their health of the Bandits team was better than it has been earlier this season with I think only one player hurt.
Look at the stats they don't lie the Bandits scored 57 runs and only allowed 6 runs.
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billythekid
28 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2010 : 21:47:33
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| dear yankeeclipper i am part of that #16 seed you have little or no respect for.Some days your the bug some days your the windshield.This weekend the GA OUTLAWS was the Bug.NOT to take nothing from the Bandits they played unbelievable on offense and the defensive side of the ball.Besides who in the heck would want to play 3 games and get the bandits 2 of them.The outlaws started out bad and finished as bad.However your impression of us is misguided we dont play a lot of usssa tournaments because they lack a lot however the last one we played was a 12yr old tourn. in usssa i'l send you a picture of the 1st place trophy if you like.as far as our losses being greater than our wins wrong again.This tournament gave us the opportunity to see some of the best teams in the southeast.Some teams cannot budget Disney because some of our families are broke im becoming one of them. So when there is a opportunity to play these teams close we jump on it.Thanks to shannon for giving us that opportunity.Obviously you must not feel to be one of the superior teams from the southeast or you would have been there.INwhich if you would have been there you wouldnt discredit what the bandits done.Yankeeclipper i have grown to like you so much i would possibly rob a bank to refuel our budget just to play Your team.They dont call us OUTLAWS for nothing.But who are you? |
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10 BB
264 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2010 : 22:06:36
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I guess it's time I spoke on this tournament.
This tournament made for the best tournament of 2010 for several reasons and I'll speak on some of them.
The playing surface was one of the best, not to hard and not to soft. I felt the grounds crew of which Shannon Ivey was one of made sure every field was in top notch shape before every game.
The mounds were by far the best mounds that my son has pitched from EVER.
The competition was as tough as any tournament of the 2010 season for the Bombers. We in my opinion had about the toudhest run facing Team Ga. TPSA Bandits, Sandtown Red Sox, Bandits Baseball and 643 Jaguars. By the time we reached the championship game and after winning two one run games were out of pitching and juice. In the end we got what we went for, the competition and if thats not what everyone is there for then I feel bad for your kid.
The bathrooms I feel would have made bmoser proud and the concessions had great hot dogs with home made slaw that gets a 10 rating in my book.
Lastly I don't think enough can be said about the effort that Shannon Ivey put forth to make this a very successful tournament. He spoke to and joked with alot of kids, met me personally and made me a fan of his tournaments. We hope that next year he will make this same tournament available to all age groups but just like this one to each age group one weekend at a time. It was nice that he focused just on the 11u and I feel that this might be the way to go so that the director make it about the experience and not just a paycheck!!! |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2010 : 22:15:31
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| billythekid is right on with the ole Flipper Clipper. Clipper thinks that if he can bad mouth another team enough that his team will eventually begin to look better. Papa's Grandson has played many a game with some of the Outlaw kids and I know that each one is a special baseball player. It takes courage and grit to put it on the line in this type tournament and the Outlaws deserve much credit for the way they play the game. They have no fear and all that happened this week is that they was unlucky to catch the Bandits on one of their better days. The Bandits gave up 6 runs against the Outlaws, TPSA Bandits, Ga Academy, and the Bay Bombers and the Outlaws had 3 of these runs so I think they fared as good or better than the other teams we played. |
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Tball
142 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2010 : 23:26:24
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Papa, NEVER in my comments did I say I did not like the Bandits!!!
I just stated the facts that the tournament did NOT have the competition that had been advertised in the fall. You said this could be a national event..it was not. You said try to get all the nationaly ranked teams together... it did not happen. You said have a tournament where the very best teams are competing...it did not happen. Very good teams here... yes! The best in the nation...NO.
Bandits are an awesome team, everyone knows that. This tournament did not live up to the hype in the fall.. that's all |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2010 : 09:25:02
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| Tball: You are just dead wrong and apparently stubborn to boot. I will just be quiet for a minute and let you enlighten all of us as to where there was a better or stronger 11U tournament in the nation this week. How can you be so naive to believe that the tournament was not strong when 4 of the 10 top ranked teams in the nation attended. Not state ranked but nationally ranked. It is true that it would have been much better if MBA, Lynn Haven, and the Oklahoma Rays attended but unfortunately they could not but that does not take away from the teams that did attend. And remember in the fall that at least 2 of these had committed which led to the hyped up hype in the fall. To my knowledge there has not been a stronger field of teams this year and probably will not be a stronger field of teams until the Elite 32 rolls around. |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2010 : 11:05:37
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| Bandits could have gone to Disney but due to cost of the Omaha, Nebraska event that is set up like Cooperstown with some teams from Puerto Rico and the Midwest we do not have the funds in our budget to do both and the Omaha trip has already been paid. There is a lot of us with Papa included that would have rather gone to Disney just because of the competition but it just didn't work out this time. Some of our players will be at Disney but with other teams. |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2010 : 13:16:19
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| We supposedly qualified by finishing 4th in the Florence, Alabama Super NIT but was not offered the berth as the director stated that he attempted to contact us but couldn't find us. He found us find when he needed the entry money for the tournament but when it came his time to give us something he couldn't find us. Whether we did or didn't doesn't really matter and our Georgia USSSA Director has been great in helping us out and that meant a lot to the Bandits. I have said many uncomplimentary things about our USSSA director so I think it only fair to give him credit for his help. It does not look like we will be attending Disney. |
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orville
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Posted - 06/03/2010 : 13:38:19
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| I bet next years 12u EcB Astros get invited to the Winder tourney. |
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TAZ980002
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Posted - 06/03/2010 : 13:58:16
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But did Bandits qualify for elite 32?
Technically, yes we should have been given one of the bids from the Florence, AL SNIT. Instead, the fine folks from USSSA in AL made up stories as to how they couldn't get in touch with us and therefore passed the bid along to another tournament. |
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