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baseballwarrior
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 Posted - 05/10/2010 : 02:50:22
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Anyone know if the Lynn Haven Longhorns have been invited?
Whos Coming 11U
1. Bay Bombers (FL)
2. Cincinnati Stix (OH)
3. Dirtbags (NC) former Carolina Angels
4. Georgia Bandits (GA)
5. Memphis Outlaws (TN)
6. Sandtown Red Sox (GA)
7. SBA Orioles (VA) former VA. Generals
8. Team Georgia (GA)
9. TPSA (AL) former TPSA Bandits
10. West Tennessee Wildcats (TN)
11. 643 Cougars (GA)
12. 643 Jaguars (GA)
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TAZ980002
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Posted - 05/10/2010 : 09:33:48
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| Lynn Haven has been invited but is not attending. |
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Longhorn Fan
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Posted - 05/10/2010 : 11:39:37
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| We have but are probably staying home. It would be nice if these teams would come down here to play. We have went out and played some big teams. We are not stopping anybody from coming down here and playing in the Grand Slam Memorial Day tournament. |
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baseballpapa
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Posted - 05/10/2010 : 11:41:05
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| Papa has not wanted to say this but from what I have gathered from outside sources it appears that Lynn Haven has been invited and turned down the invite. I have also been told that Lynn Haven has chosen to play local tournaments and avoid the bigger tournaments. My personal knowledge of this team would lead me to believe that this is not true and that they would continue to put themselves in front of the best teams in the 11U division. You can't hold on to any title by avoiding the competition. There are many reasons that they could have chosen not to play in the Invitational as it was a late invite,or maybe they had financial constraints and Lord knows that we all could identify with that and I believe that Lynn Haven will handle the ranking just like most top ranked teams do and that is to put it on the line week after week. I am sure that someone from Lynn Haven will respond and let us know where they are playing and I think I even remember someone from their team putting up the link to their web site if anyone is wondering where they will be. From what Papa knows about this team they are a fine group of kids that just love the game and have a great support group of Coaches and Parents putting them in places that develop and help them grow and that is how it should be. |
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Yankeeclipper
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Posted - 05/10/2010 : 14:11:34
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I heard that the Bombers got beat by a team (AAA) from north Florida (CBC Storm) and that the Longhorns struggled to beat the same team in the championship game. Perhaps the tournament committe should withdraw their invitation to the Bombers and Longhorns and instead invite the CBC Storm to the the TBS Memorial Day Classic.
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Originally posted by baseballwarrior
Anyone know if the Lynn Haven Longhorns have been invited?
Whos Coming 11U
1. Bay Bombers (FL)
2. Cincinnati Stix (OH)
3. Dirtbags (NC) former Carolina Angels
4. Georgia Bandits (GA)
5. Memphis Outlaws (TN)
6. Sandtown Red Sox (GA)
7. SBA Orioles (VA) former VA. Generals
8. Team Georgia (GA)
9. TPSA (AL) former TPSA Bandits
10. West Tennessee Wildcats (TN)
11. 643 Cougars (GA)
12. 643 Jaguars (GA)
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PANNI
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Posted - 05/10/2010 : 16:29:14
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There was a scheduling conflict for the Horns. Our schedule is made well in advance and there for all to see at www.lynnhavenlonghorns.com. We were not initially invited to the Winder tourn until we won the ATL Super NIT, ( I think). I don't know when everyone else was invited. I do not know that we have avoided anyone. ATL Super NIT (5 1/2 hr road trip), Orange Beach Super NIT (2 hours), Wood Bat Tourn in P'cola (2 hours). We play in this tourn every year. Tallahassee Super NIT (2 Hours). We played our 1st 'home' tourn of the year last week. We have been on the road a lot. Memorial weekend, we had already scheduled to play in a tourn in PCB. This tourn typically brings in good teams that we do not typically get an opportunity to see. We also added a tourn the week prior to Memorial Day that was not originally intended in Lake City (3 hours). I do know that we are in the middle of playing 5 straight weeks to be followed by a fund raiser. As for my travel baseball budget, I am digging in the couch cushions week after week, as many others are, trying to make my son's goals achievable.
Here is a list of the teams we did not avoid: MBA Pride, Bay Bombers (3 diff tourns), The Bandits, Georgia Elite, Sandtown Redsox, Gulf Coast Lightning, Pace Seadogs, North FLorida Hurricanes.
As for the Tallahassee Super NIT, the CBC Storm is registered as a AAA team, but from what I've seen in ATL and Orange Beach, they are 'major' material. They played very well this weekend. They did in deed beat the Bombers and the North Florida Hurricanes. I do not know this for fact, but I did overhear some talk that they had picked up or added players. Again, I do not know this to be true or not. I cannot speak for the coaches but feel that if we cannot make the Winder Tourn., that inviting CBC would not be a bad idea. Our coaching staff, as well as I, thought the Tallahasse tourn would have brought more elite teams to the area as this seems to be a good central point for GA,N FLA, and CENT FLA teams. MBA made the trip but opted to play in the 12U division. I've read several posts where teams are not satisfied with the organizers of USSSA. I understand this too, but to basically say we are hiding is far from the truth. My 2 issues with USSSA are, the temp mounds were pathetic and the 1st place medallions for the Super NIT were embarrassing. It doesn't even recognize the particular tourn. CHEAP, CHEAP, CHEAP. ATL and Orange Beach plaques and trophies were 1st class.
I hope I have cleared the air as far as the 'avoiding' statement. I hope all you baseball moms had a wonderful Mother's Day. |
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baseballpapa
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Posted - 05/10/2010 : 18:00:16
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| I think that many teams have earned the right to be invited but at the time the tournament was being put together some of the really good teams were not on the 11 year old radar. As the year goes on I am sure that there will be several other teams rise to the top of the heap and that is good news for our division. The Bandits have beaten Lynn Haven and Lynn Haven has beaten the Bandits and we stand at 1-1 but there are many teams out there capable of beating us both and we are seeing more and more every single week. This past weekend at the Battle of the South I saw many teams capable of beating Lynn Haven, MBA Pride, Bandits and any other 11 year old team. Any of the top teams that has chosen the right pitcher and gets the right bounces can beat the other in this division. The last team standing at the end of the season is the one that will have earned a well deserved championship because they will have gone through the toughest division in travel baseball in my humble opinion. |
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Scoremore
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Posted - 05/10/2010 : 18:11:48
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The Longhorns won the Tallahassee Super NIT, the third straight Super NIT this past weekend. On Saturday, they beat the Orlando Warriors (Major) 11-2 and Lee Co Predators (AAA) 10-3. On Sunday they beat the Patriots (AAA) 6-5, Bay Bombers (Major) 6-2 and CBC Storm (AAA) 9-5 and never trailed or struggled during the game. The CBC Storm was a great team with great solid players. They beat 3 Major teams this weekend- Glory, Bombers and North FL Hurricanes. They should be in the major division. They would have given many teams at the Atlanta Super NIT fits. It's too bad the MBA decided to play in the 12U division. Word has it they thought there wasn't any competition in the 11U division, funny that 2 of the teams actually beat them this season. I would think they would like some revenge. It’s also sad that no other Major teams participated in this Super NIT. I've read many Georgia posts about only having 1 Super NIT. I wonder why no Georgia teams decided to come south for their chance. Last I checked the road between Georgia and Florida goes both ways. In regards to the invitation graciously extended to the Longhorns, it was a nice gesture but their schedule was set at the beginning of the year and there has been very little change to it if any. After the Atlanta Super NIT the Longhorns were invited to the Lithia tournament near Tampa and had to decline due to a fundraiser to raise money for the Disney trip which I hear is expensive. Then about a month ago they were invited to the Winder tournament, this is a 6 hour trip during a holiday weekend. The coaches really thought hard of a way to change their current schedule and travel north to play in this tournament. It would be a great opportunity. It’s just the weekend before Winder they have to participate in the State Tournament in Lake City (3 1/2 hrs) to “complete” their bid to Disney. This tournament was never on their schedule but had to add it because of the rules set forth causing them to play 5 straight weekends. The Longhorns have traveled more this year than any in the past and it is hard, money wise, to travel every weekend. Their schedule is no secret, if anyone would like to play the Longhorns come join them - www.lynnhavenlonghorns.com (not too hard to find). I don't believe there is any "avoidance" going on. There is a great condo deal listed on their website begging teams to come here and play. Their focus has been USSSA tournaments since the beginning. They have only played in one local tournament this year and it was USSSA. All others have required travel along with hotel rooms which adds up. Their schedule was put in place well before the season began and they have stuck to it- win or lose.
Please inform me what makes a "BIG" tournament? Is it the amount of teams, the quality? We are new to this "elite" status people are putting us in. We are just an 11U team looking to play baseball. In years past when the Bay Bombers were placed in this "elite" class they told us that USSSA, Super NIT, any tournament that the Bandits were in and Disney were the "BIG" tournaments. We have played all but 2 USSSA tournaments, both were in the 12U division, one winning it beating the 12U Bombers, 3 Super NITS (winning all three) and even had the chance to play the Bandit's twice, going 1-1 and next Disney. I don't think they are running from anyone. This isn't about being number 1, we never asked or sought this title. We just want our boys to get a chance to play and get better. I think adults put too much emphasis on being number one. There's more to being number one than a win record. It's how you handle yourself. The coaches, parents and kids are always number 1 in my book....even on their worst day. |
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6bomber
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Posted - 05/10/2010 : 18:14:42
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longhorns nor bombers will avoid playing anyone. you have seen what the lonhorns have done and the bombers have been there
with them and made the trip to tampa for the fla elite. sure they may not win every game by run rule but will battle with
anyone. surely there was another complaint about the umps in tally. saw one coach tossed and a few minutes later almost
lost the opposing coach over quite a few bad decisions. good luck in lake city. |
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baseballpapa
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Posted - 05/10/2010 : 18:18:47
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| Panni is certainly right about one thing and that is the cost of playing is getting harder and harder to swallow. I just reserved our rooms in the Cincinnati Ohio tournament and the Omaha, Nebraska that we will attend some of the College World Series and Papa is broke. The only thing that I can afford to send to Florida is my thoughts and well wishes. I think we would all like to play in all the big tournaments but the truth is simple and the truth is that it is much too expensive on the parents and Coaches to do them all. You just have to choose as well as you can and do what you think best serves your teams best interests. |
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10 BB
264 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2010 : 19:22:32
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It's all about the way the ball bounces and for anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't know much about baseball. We got beat by a AAA team maybe we should just quit but maybe just maybe we as a team that has lost games before can handle the losses and continue to be one of the top teams in the nation. One that has won the Grandslam WS 3 times and 2 times in a row, one that has competed in Disney's Elite 32 with a final four finish last year!
This is 11u baseball and each year it will be tough for any team to be on top and we are ranked in the top 10 by TBS and USSSA. Sure we lost but show me a team that never has. Some people think because we are a top team that we are bullet proof or just because we are a top team try to take a jab at us when we get beat.
Has anyone ever thought that maybe we just like the Bandits suffer from some injuries and aren't playing at 100%. Sure all teams have injuries but when top pitchers on a team suffer win lose records will suffer to. No excuses here because we take our lumps and continue to play week in and week out.
This past weekend is the first tournament this year in 11u and 12u the Bombers were not in the Championship game so I think we will be just fine. We don't run from anybody and have not this year played at our own beautiful Panama City Beach attempting to go after the best teams around!
On a different note Sunday play will be covered live on TravelBallSelect at this tournament for anyone who would like to watch the begining of what will become one of the biggest tournament in years to come. |
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Longhorn Fan
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Posted - 05/10/2010 : 22:57:08
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| The Longhorns are 5-1 against the teams you have listed. We have no reason to chase anybody. Our boys are playing ball and having fun learning the game. Our schedule is posted on our website for all to see. If you would like to play us, find one of those tournaments and sign up to play. I can even get your team discounts on condos and will even throw in some restaurant coupons. Come on down! |
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baseballdoc
73 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2010 : 09:24:03
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I disagree: Since I am from Jacksonville, the same city where the CBC Storm is from, I know them very well. My son played with those kids since he was 5 years old.
CBC Storm should be classified as AA. I was present for the game against the Bay Bombers and I left in the 4th inning with the Bombers ahead 2-0. When I heard the final score, I couldn't believe it. Your're going to have to trust me on this one: CBC Storm does not belong in the group of teams invited to the Winder tournament and much less in the Elite-32 World Series. They picked the right tournament. To gain an Elite-32 berth they simply had to beat two teams of their competition level.Once they reached the championship game, they earned the berth. The CBC Storm would not have a chance of making it to the semi-finals in Stuart' Super NIT this coming weekend.
The Storm played with their original roster and did not add any players. This is a team that concentrates on Sunday double-headers with local teams. They occasionally participate in nearby tournaments [Gainesville and Lake City]. The head coach is excellent but unfortunately he doesn't have a lot of talent on the team.
The Bay Bomber would likely mercy rule them the next time -
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Originally posted by PANNI
There was a scheduling conflict for the Horns. Our schedule is made well in advance and there for all to see at www.lynnhavenlonghorns.com. We were not initially invited to the Winder tourn until we won the ATL Super NIT, ( I think). I don't know when everyone else was invited. I do not know that we have avoided anyone. ATL Super NIT (5 1/2 hr road trip), Orange Beach Super NIT (2 hours), Wood Bat Tourn in P'cola (2 hours). We play in this tourn every year. Tallahassee Super NIT (2 Hours). We played our 1st 'home' tourn of the year last week. We have been on the road a lot. Memorial weekend, we had already scheduled to play in a tourn in PCB. This tourn typically brings in good teams that we do not typically get an opportunity to see. We also added a tourn the week prior to Memorial Day that was not originally intended in Lake City (3 hours). I do know that we are in the middle of playing 5 straight weeks to be followed by a fund raiser. As for my travel baseball budget, I am digging in the couch cushions week after week, as many others are, trying to make my son's goals achievable.
Here is a list of the teams we did not avoid: MBA Pride, Bay Bombers (3 diff tourns), The Bandits, Georgia Elite, Sandtown Redsox, Gulf Coast Lightning, Pace Seadogs, North FLorida Hurricanes.
As for the Tallahassee Super NIT, the CBC Storm is registered as a AAA team, but from what I've seen in ATL and Orange Beach, they are 'major' material. They played very well this weekend. They did in deed beat the Bombers and the North Florida Hurricanes. I do not know this for fact, but I did overhear some talk that they had picked up or added players. Again, I do not know this to be true or not. I cannot speak for the coaches but feel that if we cannot make the Winder Tourn., that inviting CBC would not be a bad idea. Our coaching staff, as well as I, thought the Tallahasse tourn would have brought more elite teams to the area as this seems to be a good central point for GA,N FLA, and CENT FLA teams. MBA made the trip but opted to play in the 12U division. I've read several posts where teams are not satisfied with the organizers of USSSA. I understand this too, but to basically say we are hiding is far from the truth. My 2 issues with USSSA are, the temp mounds were pathetic and the 1st place medallions for the Super NIT were embarrassing. It doesn't even recognize the particular tourn. CHEAP, CHEAP, CHEAP. ATL and Orange Beach plaques and trophies were 1st class.
I hope I have cleared the air as far as the 'avoiding' statement. I hope all you baseball moms had a wonderful Mother's Day.
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TAZ980002
831 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2010 : 09:46:24
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| Longhorn family, now that you have reached "the summit", you will have to work on dealing with the criticism that comes with it. Some of it is legitimate, some of it is not. Most of it is based on jealousy and envy. Don't worry about it. Just keep doing what you are doing. You guys have a great team. |
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baseballdoc
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Posted - 05/11/2010 : 12:24:45
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Would it be inappropriate to ask you to cite a few legitimate concerns and some that are not? It's hard for me to tell which are legitimate and which are not.
"Some of it is legitimate, some of it is not". |
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TAZ980002
831 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2010 : 14:56:46
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Doc, what I meant was people will criticize a team for dodging competition or winning at all cost or pitching their pitchers too much. It seems that everything a successful team does is under very tight scrutiny. Some of that criticism is legitimate and some is completely bogus and made without knowing the real circumstances surrounding a team's situation.
I'm sure that your son's team has already received a bunch of it. |
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bturner
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Posted - 05/11/2010 : 15:10:46
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Longhorns
You can stay in PCB for the rest of the year and NO ONE can say a word. After the wins you guys have had you have nothing to prove. If any of the big boys want another bite let them come and get it. |
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baseballpapa
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Posted - 05/11/2010 : 16:39:12
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| Longhorn Fan: Bandits have had to listen to the same type of crap you are getting to listen to now for 2 years. Most of it comes from people that you have beat and from teams that know that they can't beat you on their best day. The prize is always harder to hold than it was to grab and the Longhorns just need to enjoy the fruits of their labor. The Bandits and others like the Bandits know what kind of team you have and just look forward to playing you whenever and wherever we can. I wish we could come South but the budget is not there for the travel. It's getting harder and harder to keep in front of the best teams. Good Luck to you guys and we hope to see you again soon. |
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PANNI
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Posted - 05/11/2010 : 18:04:15
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Baseball doc, then I'm not sure about CBC. If they are a AA team, then there were several tewams in ATL and Orange Beach that were not "major" level. Trust me on that one too as I watched the complete Bomber game as well as the game against the Glory, NF Hurricanes and The Horns. Maybe everyone body just woke up and realized they were 11 years old boys.
Don't really know that there are any concerns with our Longhorn program. We started the season with an idea of what we wanted to achieve for the season and we seem to be doing okay. If anyone opts to criticize a bunch of 11 year old kids, that is there option.
Gotta go for now. Headed to Longhorn practice. Hope I can find them.
nappropriate to ask you to cite a few legitimate concerns and some that are not? It's hard for me to tell which are legitimate and which are not.
"Some of it is legitimate, some of it is not".
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Longhorn Fan
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Posted - 05/12/2010 : 00:41:56
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| The Storm did add to their roster this season but who cares. They played hard and did not quit. Don't really care what class they are in. They played with heart and I applaud them. |
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LonghornPapa6
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Posted - 05/12/2010 : 11:42:55
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| PLAY FORWARD...Anyone who knows The Longhorns, knows our team does not avoid anyone, and will play any team that is in front of us...which is exactly what the focus has been the entire season, and will continue to be. This helps our boys get the very best experience, playing against the very best competition they can find to prepare them all for their future high school days, and beyond for some. Competition being friendly, we as parents, grandparents, and coaches, should remember to always keep it fun for our boys of summer, in order to keep their dreams and their passion for the game alive. Baseball IS the greatest game on earth, and we are all fortunate to have boys that love the game, and are very good at playing the game, so lets all be thankful for what we have, and "PLAY FORWARD." |
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baseballdoc
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Posted - 05/12/2010 : 18:02:25
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Yes, compared with last year, they did have a few different players on this year's roster, but in fact the kids they lost were much better than those they added. However, they did not modify their roster prior to the Tallahassee SNIT. They are not participating in the Elite-32 World Series.
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Originally posted by Longhorn Fan
The Storm did add to their roster this season but who cares. They played hard and did not quit. Don't really care what class they are in. They played with heart and I applaud them.
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Longhorn Fan
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Posted - 05/13/2010 : 00:06:20
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Yes they did.
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Originally posted by baseballdoc
Yes, compared with last year, they did have a few different players on this year's roster, but in fact the kids they lost were much better than those they added. However, they did not modify their roster prior to the Tallahassee SNIT. They are not participating in the Elite-32 World Series.
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Originally posted by Longhorn Fan
The Storm did add to their roster this season but who cares. They played hard and did not quit. Don't really care what class they are in. They played with heart and I applaud them.
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gwinnettdad
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Posted - 05/13/2010 : 14:32:46
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If you would like to play us, find one of those tournaments and sign up to play. I can even get your team discounts on condos and will even throw in some restaurant coupons. Come on down!
Most of the elite teams I know of are "going to" the best competition. If you think that the rest of your tournament schedule will get you ready for the elite 32 you are going to be very dissappointed. |
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baseballdoc
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Posted - 05/13/2010 : 15:36:09
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Name me one [initials will suffice]!
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Originally posted by Longhorn Fan
Yes they did.
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Originally posted by baseballdoc
Yes, compared with last year, they did have a few different players on this year's roster, but in fact the kids they lost were much better than those they added. However, they did not modify their roster prior to the Tallahassee SNIT. They are not participating in the Elite-32 World Series.
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Originally posted by Longhorn Fan
The Storm did add to their roster this season but who cares. They played hard and did not quit. Don't really care what class they are in. They played with heart and I applaud them.
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PANNI
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Posted - 05/13/2010 : 22:40:42
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Gwinettdad, time will tell how our preperation and tourn schedule will play out. Once again, we have been out on the road for every tourn except one. Our area just does not offer the amount of teams that yours does (inside a one hr radius), but unfortunately we cannot be on the road every week to areas 4-6 hours from PC. Almost every tourn we have played is a minimum 2 hr drive w/ an overnite stay. We will be playing in our 3rd 12U tourn of this year this weekend. Would you argue that the Horns have come unprepared to any 11U tourn this year? Please name one, because i don't recall many this year. I have no reason to believe we would not be prepared in Disney. But hey, if we come out flat, we had a great year and we will try again next year. Win, lose or draw, by the time my son gets back home from Disney and jumps in his pool w/ his buddies, he will have forgotten about the Elite 32, as will most 11 -12 year olds.Not the end of the world... Is it??
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Originally posted by Longhorn Fan
If you would like to play us, find one of those tournaments and sign up to play. I can even get your team discounts on condos and will even throw in some restaurant coupons. Come on down!
Most of the elite teams I know of are "going to" the best competition. If you think that the rest of your tournament schedule will get you ready for the elite 32 you are going to be very dissappointed.
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