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dirtdawgs
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 Posted - 05/03/2010 : 12:47:30
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rule 8.04.b 8.04.B At any time, the offensive team may use a courtesy runner for the pitcher and catcher of record the previous inning
on defense. The courtesy runner must be a player not presently in the line-up. If no players not presently in the
line-up are available, the courtesy runner shall be the player making the last batted out.
Rule 8.04.B Comment: The re-entry status of the courtesy runner, pitcher, and catcher shall not be affected by
this rule. If at any time, a courtesy runner is determined to be ineligible, a proper replacement pursuant to these
rules (if available) will be used without penalty. |
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G-Man
326 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2010 : 12:53:14
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Its always been my experience with Usssa in Florida to go extra innings and no time limit until there is a winner in the championship game. I dont remember using a international tie-breaker in the championship. I guess each TD and maybe state do it different.
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Originally posted by hococubs
The HOCO CUBS enjoyed playing in McDonough this weekend. We lost in an international tie-breaker to North Augusta.
I do have a question that I hope you guys can answer.
My understanding was that the last "batted" out goes to second. However, the ruling was that it was the "last out." Is there a place where this rule is found?
Thanks --
As to my rankings:
Elite Gamers - Red (should be a major team)
Chain Dirtdawgs
Hoco Cubs
Home Plate - Meyer
West Georgia Bandits
Georgia Select Red
North Augusta
Georgia Select Red
Alpharetta A's
Georgia Redbirds
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Shut Out
512 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2010 : 17:00:48
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Originally posted by Shut Out
they are playing in Flowery Branch this weekend so we will see.
For those that haven't seen Mill Creed Red in a while. They still got it. They lost a tough battle to Alpharetta A's in the pool play 3-1 but got to live another day and fought their way back through the brackets to face Alpharetta again in the Semis and jumped on them early to put Alpharetta away.. They then gave Team Ga everything they had asked for in the finals before Team ga ended up on top 8-6.
One other thing to not the 10U braves held their own also this weekend. Just missing the gold bracket then winning the silver. However they only lost to Team GA by 1 in pool play. They may be 10 in age but other than that they are just as good as most of the 11AAA/AA's. |
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hococubs
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Posted - 05/04/2010 : 22:38:01
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THANKS. The reason I asked the question is that in the championship game of the director's cup, we doubled up a runner. Instead of putting the batter that made the out on second, the umpire allowed them to put the runner who was doubled up (the fastest player on their team). I disagreed with the ruling. By the way, the runner ended up scoring to tie the game and send to another inning of international play.
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Originally posted by dirtdawgs
rule 8.04.b 8.04.B At any time, the offensive team may use a courtesy runner for the pitcher and catcher of record the previous inning
on defense. The courtesy runner must be a player not presently in the line-up. If no players not presently in the
line-up are available, the courtesy runner shall be the player making the last batted out.
Rule 8.04.B Comment: The re-entry status of the courtesy runner, pitcher, and catcher shall not be affected by
this rule. If at any time, a courtesy runner is determined to be ineligible, a proper replacement pursuant to these
rules (if available) will be used without penalty.
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HAWKS8
70 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2010 : 22:57:04
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| Shut Out..Thanks for the kind words. We went through a tough March, all the rain and cold weather set us back a little and we decided to work on some things before mixing it up with the big boys. I believe my boys have some momentum right now although, it is 11U baseball and I am sure there is always a possibility of a down weekend. Look forward to competing with all the teams in the area. Having played in some other states this year, I fully believe the toughest competition we see is right here in the area. There are a lot of really good teams in the immediate area. See you at the park. |
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TAZ980002
831 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2010 : 05:58:09
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| Hawks8, when are you guys going to play in one of these big Atlanta tournaments? I'm really looking forward to you guys showing these big boys what your team is made of. Maybe the Triple Crown State in Alpharetta? |
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HAWKS8
70 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2010 : 21:02:54
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| I will be looking at one of these in the near future. Once this thing called work gets done, i will have time to look into some. The TC state may be a possibility. I wish the Nations Georgia Invite would have been later than March. We may have had a pretty good chance to play you big boys in Winder on Memorial Day. I would have loved getting in that one. |
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Whitlow
211 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2010 : 07:54:28
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Originally posted by HAWKS8
I will be looking at one of these in the near future. Once this thing called work gets done, i will have time to look into some. The TC state may be a possibility. I wish the Nations Georgia Invite would have been later than March. We may have had a pretty good chance to play you big boys in Winder on Memorial Day. I would have loved getting in that one.
We would have liked to have won the GA invitational also and We miss the MC Red Hawks in GGBL as well. I think we would go all tournament as well if not for the extra cost. It's hard to turn down getting 18+ games for the cost of a tournament. I'm glad the Red Hawks are doing good now. Gwinnett teams like the MC Red Hawks are underrated. |
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qwikslvr
21 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2010 : 13:20:20
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| So, after the weekend that ECB Luck had, does this change the rankings any for them? They got beat Friday night by Sharon Springs blue. They came back Saturday ready to play beating Sharon Springs black 10-1 and beating 643 jaguar's in extra innings 14-9. They then went on to beat Alpharetta A's in extra innings 10-9. They were beaten in the semi finals by the 643 cougars, who then beat Sandtown for the championship. |
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Shut Out
512 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2010 : 13:15:03
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Welcome to the home of the
11 A A A - GEORGIA RANKINGS 2010
RANKINGS AS OF MAY 10 TH
#1 ELITE GAMERS - RED - - accurate
#2 WEST GEORGIA BANDITS - - accurate
#3 HOME PLATE - MEYER - - accurate
#4 SANDY PLAINS WILDCATS - - accurate but have to stay consistant
#5 NEWNAN GEORGIA OUTLAWS - - on the move; may be at the major level before seasons end
#6 SHARON SPRINGS - BLACK - - should have dropped further but still in top 10
#7 CHAIN DIRT DAWGS - - maybe a little high
#8 GEORGIA SELECT - RED - - haven't seen enough of them
#9 MILL CREEK - RED - - haven't seen enough but if they play like they did 2 weeks ago they are a major team not AAA
#10 EAST COBB LUCK - - gotta like a team that never says die and should have lost 2 straight this weekend but pulled it out when the other teams released the pressure
#11 ALPHARETTA A'S - - could be top 5 but have to find the killer instinct. Loss a close one to the Rookies that they should have one and should have put the Luck away when they had the chance but they seem to keep improving
#12 WILLS PARK WARRIORS - - biggest up and down team around. On a good day they are awesome! On a bad day they are what they are.... I do like this group but like SPW they need to find consistancy.
In summary i think GA AAA is unbelievably competitive and love how on one day they can hang with the likes of godzilla and on the next forget how good they are. 11baseball i am going to miss it when it's over!
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bmoser
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Posted - 05/11/2010 : 13:25:52
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Season:
Collins Hill is the only 11U GGBL that can compete at the AAA/Major level. CH held up well vs. 643 Jags and Cartersville Rookies. This 11u CH group has beaten some very good travel teams in the past 3 years. Maybe someone out there can list them all.
A few other GGBL's are low AAA and are capable of upsetting Collins Hill if the ball bounces their way. I know North Gwinnett Red and Grayson beat them this year. Most of the rest of the 11U's are A/AA.
Now, in 12U and up though, GGBL split teams into AA & AAA groups, and you can find some very good AAA teams in GGBL's older classifications.
Occasionally, a strong team will pop up in 9-11U. The 9U Mill Creek Hawks from 2 yrs ago, Shiloh 9U this year are two I can think of.
Gwinnett rarely gets all the best players on the same team until High School when the parental influence is greatly diminished, especially at the Varsity level.
Brookwood won H.S. States a few years back, and Collins Hill, North Gwinnett, Parkview, Mill Creek are still in the 5A hunt this year.
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TAZ980002
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Posted - 05/11/2010 : 15:01:51
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Originally posted by bmoser
Gwinnett rarely gets all the best players on the same team until High School when the parental influence is greatly diminished, especially at the Varsity level.
Bmoser, this is an absolutely eloquent way of saying "daddy ball rules Gwinnett travel ball". LOL !! |
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bmoser
1633 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2010 : 17:35:23
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Shut out:
Very good AAA rankings, but Collins Hill Green has got to be in there somewhere. Maybe honorable mention. They are a lot like SP and WP Warriors in that they can lay an egg at times.
West GA and GA Redbirds have got to play some Triple Crown for us to get a better read. I think Chain Dirt Dawgs area little high too.
Nice job overall!
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ss7
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Posted - 05/11/2010 : 20:55:57
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| i say the sp wildcats are a low major n they maybe can even contend at that level..... OPINIONS |
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dirtdawgs
58 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2010 : 00:06:17
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Ouch my Dirtdawgs are slipping fast. I know we are off the beaten path but think we can still hold our own in this class. Lost to Sharon Springs Spartans Black and got beat soundly. Lost in extra innings to West Ga Bandits and Holley Springs Express. Beat Home plate Meyers, Sandy plains, Warriors, and Duluth Wildcats plust two top major South Carolina teams. Then last week beat the Ga Elite.
Did have an embarring showing at the Directors Cups final but were shorthanded with only 9 players. Hoco Cubs pitcher was the real deal and threw the nastiest curve we have ever seen.
Will say that the West Ga Bandits had the best pitching we have seen in this division and Sharon Springs and Sandy Plains hit the ball great. We right now are exactly where you described above, can play with anyone some games then forget how to play some games.
Heres a fun stat in 61 USSSA games played we have played 20 1 or 2 run games. Our record in 1 run games is 14-3 losing to the Ga Elite, West Ga Bandits, and last weekend to the Dirtbags. 3-0 in 2 run games. Thats nearly a third of all games 1 or 2 runs. All wonder grey hairs are starting. |
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G-Man
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Posted - 05/12/2010 : 03:10:32
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I am only pointing out a few things related to those rankings. Chain Dirt Dawgs beat Home Plate and Sandy Plains and was up on West Bandits 5-2 and lost 6-5 when the kids fell apart in the last inning even with having bases loaded and no outs in the bottom of the 6th down 6-5. LOL I know figure that one out hehehe. So I am not sure those rankings can be real accurate.
BTW we are now officially Georgia boys now. We got moved in Friday and just getting settled. Its going to be nice not having to drive 4-6 hours now to play in a tournament every weekend 
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Originally posted by bmoser
Shut out:
Very good AAA rankings, but Collins Hill Green has got to be in there somewhere. Maybe honorable mention. They are a lot like SP and WP Warriors in that they can lay an egg at times.
West GA and GA Redbirds have got to play some Triple Crown for us to get a better read. I think Chain Dirt Dawgs area little high too.
Nice job overall!
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bmoser
1633 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2010 : 07:45:38
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Bandit_Hawk:
I've been overly opinionated and outspoken about Gwinnett baseball through the years, and am now mellowing out a bit. The vast majority are fine with it all, and are either oblivious to what's really happening, or see it, but choose to accept it because its easier than making waves to bring about change...and boy are they right about that!
Seems that a lot of the artificial team building that starts with T-Ball All Stars is beginning to work itself out 6 years later. By 12U, the kids know who belongs, and who doesn't, and begin to ask questions. As the boys' influence grows, parental influences retreat.
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Originally posted by Bandit_Hawk
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Originally posted by bmoser
Gwinnett rarely gets all the best players on the same team until High School when the parental influence is greatly diminished, especially at the Varsity level.
Bmoser, this is an absolutely eloquent way of saying "daddy ball rules Gwinnett travel ball". LOL !!
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Shut Out
512 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2010 : 08:51:22
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Originally posted by ss7
i say the sp wildcats are a low major n they maybe can even contend at that level..... OPINIONS
Disagree; Very good AAA team. To me this means you are competitive in most games you play and can on occasation get an upset over a top team but in reality when you play a true major team you lose 8 out or 10. This is not a knock on SPW it is the reality with the difference in AAA teams and major teams. Remember most AAA teams are made of kids that have grown up together and go to school together while most major teams are put together from all over. This is one of the reason the AAA teams can jump up and suprise a few of the big dawgs as i see the team chemistries on the AAA teams amongst the kids as far better than the big Major teams. Teh major teams chemistry is great when they are winning but as soon as things don't go their way you can see that that the no "I" in team doesn't always hold water. Then you can see the parents get in little johnny's ear and whinning behind the seems saying things like i don't know why they pitch that kid he stinks or you should have been playing instead of him and we would have won. Please don't think i am saying all the major teams are like this but i do look and listen to whats happening in the dugouts and in the stands and I promise you it is worse int he major teams than it is in the AAA. Back to SSW - very good team that has potential to win some games they are not supposed to and wins most of the games they should win. |
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Shut Out
512 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2010 : 08:54:12
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Originally posted by bmoser
Shut out:
Very good AAA rankings, but Collins Hill Green has got to be in there somewhere. Maybe honorable mention. They are a lot like SP and WP Warriors in that they can lay an egg at times.
West GA and GA Redbirds have got to play some Triple Crown for us to get a better read. I think Chain Dirt Dawgs area little high too.
Nice job overall!
Moser I'm sure your right about Collins Hill but i have actually not seen them play. Heck i just feel good that the 11U godfather liked my rankings. I better stop while I'm ahead... |
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bmoser
1633 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2010 : 10:18:33
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Shut Out:
I have to give up my throne because I have not attended enough games this season to stay on top of it all :( I have not even seen all the top 10 teams play. Have not seen Elite, or Astro's. Have not seen Titans in a long time. Have not seen Outlaws. I'm all washed up!
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TAZ980002
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Posted - 05/12/2010 : 11:37:39
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Originally posted by bmoser
Bandit_Hawk:
I've been overly opinionated and outspoken about Gwinnett baseball through the years, and am now mellowing out a bit. The vast majority are fine with it all, and are either oblivious to what's really happening, or see it, but choose to accept it because its easier than making waves to bring about change...and boy are they right about that!
Seems that a lot of the artificial team building that starts with T-Ball All Stars is beginning to work itself out 6 years later. By 12U, the kids know who belongs, and who doesn't, and begin to ask questions. As the boys' influence grows, parental influences retreat.
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Originally posted by Bandit_Hawk
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Originally posted by bmoser
Gwinnett rarely gets all the best players on the same team until High School when the parental influence is greatly diminished, especially at the Varsity level.
Bmoser, this is an absolutely eloquent way of saying "daddy ball rules Gwinnett travel ball". LOL !!
Truth is, Gwinnett is no different than any other geographical group in my opinion. Gwinnett has some really good coaches in travel ball and it also has those Dads that can't let go yet. Neither is right or wrong, just the way it is. The very good coaches will continue to be successful and draw good talent and the Daddy ballers will continue to drive good players away from their teams. The Collins Hill 11u Green coach is a good example of one who is doing it right. If we weren't fortunate enough to be in the position we are in right now, Collins Hill would be our first choice for a local team. |
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Shut Out
512 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2010 : 13:35:58
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Originally posted by bmoser
Shut Out:
I have to give up my throne because I have not attended enough games this season to stay on top of it all :( I have not even seen all the top 10 teams play. Have not seen Elite, or Astro's. Have not seen Titans in a long time. Have not seen Outlaws. I'm all washed up!
Moser washed up. Never.....
I have had a chance to see the Astro's a couple of times and they are pretty darn good but i would still put them at tier 2 major behind top 3-5. I saw the Titans for the 1st time this weekend and they are legit. They gave the Sox everything they wanted with the game being decided in the 6th inning. I didn't get a chance to see the outlaws but based on results they look like a team to be reckoned with. |
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ss7
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Posted - 05/12/2010 : 16:43:48
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| So i've heard, the wildcats lost by 1 to: Chain Dirt Dawgs, Blue claws (Florida) #6 team n state, gwinett wildcats, and HP LAWSON. They are a solid team. |
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CoachMark
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Posted - 05/13/2010 : 13:42:03
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Originally posted by ss7
So i've heard, the wildcats lost by 1 to: Chain Dirt Dawgs, Blue claws (Florida) #6 team n state, gwinett wildcats, and HP LAWSON. They are a solid team.
SPW is low AAA at best. Probably more like AA. Most Majors and AAA teams should be able to get by with your #5 or #6 pitcher and still beat this team :)
Now let's please talk about somebody else. |
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hococubs
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Posted - 05/13/2010 : 21:42:19
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MAN, YOU GUYS ARE TOUGH!
Please give the HOCO Cubs some respect. Most of our losses in AAA were in Florida in the fall -- and we were short handed. Anyway, we play this weekend against Mill Creek Red (the pundits' new golden child). I guess if they run rule us, we will go back to middle Georgia with our tails between our legs!
I still like the Chain Dirt Dawgs in AAA. They are solid!
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