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dirtdawgs
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 Posted - 12/13/2009 : 18:33:07
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| Being from a smaller market like Savannah I was wondering how most of the top major teams are made. We originated from a rec team and added players as needed. We have never had a tryout or cut a kid. Is this common practice or is thier a lot of player movement in the major and other classes? Do you guys release the bottom players and pick up new ones? Is thier constant recruiting of players off other teams? I have been in the unfortunate position of losing quality players because of parent issues and rebuilding but other than that have always been loyal to the kids that were loyal to me. Not saying either way is right or wrong just wondering more about the culture of travel ball around Atlanta. |
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baseballpapa
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Posted - 12/13/2009 : 21:26:27
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dirtdawgs, I have heard the Bandits started playing Dizzy Dean at around 6 years old and at that time some of them were 5. If your truly want to compete then you must make the necessary adjustments to stay competitive. The culture around Atlanta is still mostly local talent but you do see some movement from one park to another.
There is a fine line between finding the skilled player versus the player who fits into the chemistry of your team. Bandits 13 has called Coach Troy a genius in the way he plays the game but I think his genius comes from his selection of the team and the way he focuses on the teams needs. This year we have made no additions so we must prepare even harder as we know many of the Atlanta teams have gotten much stronger.
Most of the Bandits live within 10 miles of each other except the 2 Gwinnett pickups. What these 2 kids brought to the Bandits cannot be measured in innings pitched or home runs hit or the great defense that they each play. What they have brought runs much deeper that their baseball skills. It is their heart and attitude that fit in so well with the Bandits style of play and then the cherry on top of these acquisitions were their families that love the game of baseball just like we do.
I believe that it was Abraham Lincoln that said a house divided cannot stand and without the Parents, Coaches, and Players on the same page you will fail in this game guaranteed. |
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dirtdawgs
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Posted - 12/13/2009 : 22:07:16
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| Old Abe was a smart man. Try as I might I was unable to keep last years team together. It felt like I had lost part of my family when we split. Even though they were the dysfuntional part they will always be DirtDawg family. Though our new team is not as talented we are far and awaw a better TEAM! |
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10 BB
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Posted - 12/14/2009 : 09:23:46
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| We only have three original players from the start of the Bombers in 2005. Two coaches sons and my son. Every year we try to get better and trim the fat while picking up new players. I must tell you though when we started our team was split with 7 and 8 yr olds. In 2008 the 9yr olds stayed in their right age group and the 10's moved up. My sons team played 9u twice. |
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Alter-Ego
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Posted - 12/14/2009 : 11:39:12
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I believe it is almost impossible to keep a team together from the younger ages up through HS. (I mean travel ball in the summers of HS, not playing on the same HS team)
I have told several this before, but I believe players go through a lifecycle in baseball. There are three phases to the lifecycle:
1) Top 3 on a team
2) Supporting role on a team
3) Bottom 3 on a team
A player does not need to spend several consecutive seasons at 1 or 3. If they do, they are not developing as much as they should. 1's need to move to a team where they will be more challenged by their teammates and the competition they play, and 3's need to move to a team where they can take over more of a #2 role, and progress to a #1 role.
Based on this, you are always going to have 1's and 3's leaving. The important part is to keep a good core to build each season around.
I tell parents, that ask,that they need to be truthful with themselves when they assess where their kid is, along the lifecycle, and do what is best for them. Not what you emotionally feel needs to be done. |
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TAZ980002
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Posted - 12/14/2009 : 11:41:19
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From what I have seen, the top Major teams in the 11u age group don't recruit. There are players who seek them out and want to be part of their team. These coaches have a team philosopy and they stick to it. The coaches know by now what kind of player, and sometimes more importantly, what kind of parent they are looking for to improve their teams.
Dirtdawg, sorry you had to go through that turmoil with your team. Parents can be so disruptive to team chemistry. |
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bmoser
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Posted - 12/14/2009 : 13:15:39
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dirtdawgs:
9 of the "top" teams that are often discussed on this site have all posted on this site under teams looking for players. If you call that recruiting, then: EC Stars, EC Titans, Colt 45's, Jackets, Team GA, GA Select, Sharon Springs Blue, Midway, Kennesaw have recruited.
Some of these coaches take a passive role by just posting an opening on this site, while others see players they like, then approach their parents.
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PS Iron Pigs
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Posted - 12/14/2009 : 13:34:04
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| I for one don't mind teams bettering themselves from year to year, you should kind of expect it. I however don't quite understand the philosophy of teams that try to better themselves from tournament to tournament. We give complete dedication to the the families and players that we have choosen to play with us this year and expect the same in return. Do you guys see this as the standard or the exception? |
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baseballpapa
1520 Posts |
Posted - 12/14/2009 : 15:49:27
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| moser: And not only do they advertise for players on the forum. Most of the teams have an open tryout at some point hoping to attact top players to their organizations. |
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bmoser
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Posted - 12/14/2009 : 16:15:29
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I see loyalty as the standard and not the exception. Each Fall teams have to use fill-ins to work around Football, but otherwise I just see minor roster changes year to year. Roster moves bring a lot of interest and discussion, so they become magnified and make us think they are more common than they really are.
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I for one don't mind teams bettering themselves from year to year, you should kind of expect it. I however don't quite understand the philosophy of teams that try to better themselves from tournament to tournament. We give complete dedication to the the families and players that we have choosen to play with us this year and expect the same in return. Do you guys see this as the standard or the exception?
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