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goyard
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 Posted - 11/04/2009 : 09:44:39
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Good way to conduct your fall GasBag  |
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madimo11
33 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2009 : 12:53:04
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| I have been reading this discussion about what 14u teams are going to be better then others at ECB. I have seen every team at the 14u age group have played most of them. I coached the Combat and let me tell you, the Astros will walk through the rest of the field, the other 14u teams will all be average and play well vs each other. TG does not stand a chance vs the Astros fall or summer period. |
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goyard
217 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2009 : 13:53:17
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WE GOT SPIRIT YES WE DO WE GOT SPIRIT HOW BOUT YOU!!!!
MY TEAM CAN BEAT YOUR TEAM AND YOU CAN GO EAT ICE CREAM!!!!
HA - I was actually glad this discussion had taken a turn and the madimo there you go  |
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brownie1
17 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2009 : 17:26:26
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| madimo11 - Gee - thanks for the vote of confidence for everyone not "good enough" to be on the Astros. I guess the rest of us "average" players should just quit now & go home! Shame on you! You know as well as everyone else reading these posts that what you are at 14U doesn't necessarily mean that's what you will be as a HS Senior. Yes, MOST of the 14U Astros are the cream of the crop- RIGHT NOW - but that doesn't mean they still will be in 3-4 years - which is when it really matters! ANY team can be beat - doesn't matter what their name is! |
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Alter-Ego
802 Posts |
Posted - 11/06/2009 : 09:34:55
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As a parent from the Astros, that post made me uncomfortable because it did have the feel of demeaning the other teams. That does an injustice to the other teams who have very good players as well.
brownie, the only part of your post I am uncomfortable with (you are not the first to bring this up and I get uncomfortable with it every time) is the reference to "doesn't mean they still will be in 3-4 years." Many assume that the players on the Astros are just naturally the way they are and that they don't work harder than most to be where they are.
While I believe it is not fair that other teams get talked about as "Average", I also don't believe it is fair to the boys on the Asros to belittle the hard work they have done, and continue to do, to be where they are, and where they are going. |
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mammabee
95 Posts |
Posted - 11/06/2009 : 09:48:24
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Mr madmoi what all you are saying is probably true , yes , but it dont make it right to say it out loud |
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billbclk
164 Posts |
Posted - 11/06/2009 : 10:33:49
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| Boy, you 14U guys have passion. I still hold true to my original statement that it doesn't matter. Unless your 14U team is made up of kids who will all play on the same HS team, your HS coach will say good and move on. |
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brownie1
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Posted - 11/06/2009 : 12:18:35
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| Alter-Ego - my apologies - my comment was not intended to belittle ANY player. I'm sure the Astros team works just as hard or harder - becuase of expectations - than any other team. The point I intended to make was this - in 3-4 years the group of players that are considered the "best" now (at 14U)may -or MAY NOT - be the "best" then. Granted some will still be awseome players but there will also be some that are surpassed by players that are just "average" now at 14U. Whether it be a growth spurt, getting stronger, etc - it DOES happen. |
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coachdan06
433 Posts |
Posted - 11/06/2009 : 12:27:24
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Originally posted by billbclk
Boy, you 14U guys have passion. I still hold true to my original statement that it doesn't matter. Unless your 14U team is made up of kids who will all play on the same HS team, your HS coach will say good and move on.
Very True !!! |
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goyard
217 Posts |
Posted - 11/06/2009 : 14:19:11
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Personally I think that post was thrown in their to add fire to this thread which it seemed to do
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gasbag
281 Posts |
Posted - 11/06/2009 : 15:37:13
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Originally posted by madimo11
I have been reading this discussion about what 14u teams are going to be better then others at ECB. I have seen every team at the 14u age group have played most of them. I coached the Combat and let me tell you, the Astros will walk through the rest of the field, the other 14u teams will all be average and play well vs each other. TG does not stand a chance vs the Astros fall or summer period.
I didn't see anywhere in this post where it states that the 14U Astros players will be better than anyone else in the upcoming future years. Seems to me that some are "reading into" this with a negative connotation. madimo11 simply states he/she thinks 14U Stros will be best, I'm assuming this ( 2010 )coming year. I didn't assume they'd be the best 10 years from now and I'm not sure how you can jump to future years with your assumptions. I don't believe there was a "DISS" anywhere in his thread but rather his/her respect for their feelings of the 14U Stros ! |
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scottwill311
52 Posts |
Posted - 11/06/2009 : 15:51:11
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Ego,
Are you saying the Astros are Astros because they "work harder than most to be where they are." |
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mikewells
45 Posts |
Posted - 11/06/2009 : 22:04:34
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BROWNIE Im gonna say you hit it on the spot.
Often the perceived average player at 13s to 15s passes by this years stud who may even be the captain or bext player on a competitive 13-15 travel team.
Desire Maturity Work SizeGrowth Attitude all play a part in the turnaround for good and for bad.
Bet on it happening to some of today's all stars gang , just the way it is
quote]Originally posted by brownie1
Alter-Ego - my apologies - my comment was not intended to belittle ANY player. I'm sure the Astros team works just as hard or harder - becuase of expectations - than any other team. The point I intended to make was this - in 3-4 years the group of players that are considered the "best" now (at 14U)may -or MAY NOT - be the "best" then. Granted some will still be awseome players but there will also be some that are surpassed by players that are just "average" now at 14U. Whether it be a growth spurt, getting stronger, etc - it DOES happen.
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Alter-Ego
802 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 23:51:46
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brownie,
I agree that there are others that will have yet to "blossom" that at 16, 17, or 18, will be among the better players in our area.
Scott Will, what I am saying is the Astros work harder than most players at this age (not ALL players but most) to be where they are and to continue to develop. I realize there are players that work as hard, but my point was that the Astros did not just fall into these skills. They have worked hard to be where they are and expect to work hard to keep getting better. Your team has players that work just as hard too, but we both know a long list of teams that don't have players that put that much time and effort in.
Hopefully there are other players, on other teams, that have the same ambition. |
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Alter-Ego
802 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2009 : 22:14:47
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| BTW, a great game this evening between the 14U Astros and the 15U Titans. A battle to the end to win the 15U BCS Regional Tournament at EC this weekend. 14U Astros prevailed 11-10, after a heated back and forth game. This seems to be a prelude to many battles to come in the spring. The 15U Titans have some really good players and will be highly competitive this season. |
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madimo11
33 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2009 : 12:01:23
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My apologies to everyone who took offense to my last post. There are talented players at the 14 yr old level. What I was trying to say was at this point the Astros kids are ready to play up at the 15 yr old level.
What the Astros are asked to do is crazy, they have a very demanding schedule as other teams do.
I was at the Titans-Astros game. The Astros were down 5-0 in the first and came back with 3 in the first.
The Titans were missing 5 of their top players due to football, and this takes nothing away from the Astros, their catcher had a broken finger and they are missing Tony Flores, they are very good.
6-4-3 has done a great job of assembling players and teams that do not want to be at ECB or have been left off rosters at ECB, they are a solid group from early ages to top levels. |
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Alter-Ego
802 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2009 : 14:53:13
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| It was a great game and probably worked to make both teams better. It's games like that which make players better and more experienced. Shane has a great team with the 15U Titans. |
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mammabee
95 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2009 : 09:30:21
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Mr madimo could i add that the fact is four or five teams at east cob still are looking for players
i mean its not like the good players are left offof rosters like they didnt make the team its just they dont want the east cobb experience
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Originally posted by madimo11
My apologies to everyone who took offense to my last post. There are talented players at the 14 yr old level. What I was trying to say was at this point the Astros kids are ready to play up at the 15 yr old level.
What the Astros are asked to do is crazy, they have a very demanding schedule as other teams do.
I was at the Titans-Astros game. The Astros were down 5-0 in the first and came back with 3 in the first.
The Titans were missing 5 of their top players due to football, and this takes nothing away from the Astros, their catcher had a broken finger and they are missing Tony Flores, they are very good.
6-4-3 has done a great job of assembling players and teams that do not want to be at ECB or have been left off rosters at ECB, they are a solid group from early ages to top levels.
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Alter-Ego
802 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2009 : 13:43:00
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mammabee,
I won't disagree. The EC experience is not for everyone. There are really good teams outside EC and I have seen players, every year at almost every age group, that come over specifially trying out for one or two teams, and if they don't make it, they return to their non-EC team. Others choose to not attempt the EC experience at all, feeling they can get what they want outside. Nothing wrong with that at all. |
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goyard
217 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2009 : 08:46:45
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| The player within and the tools available to that player is what makes him progress or regress. We play out of EC but that is merely a choice and a place we have enjoyed playing. That is the great thing about the south - we do not lack for areas inside or outside of Cobb to find talented young players! |
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crackedbats
160 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2009 : 16:20:32
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| dont know if it was a new team but I heard that the former Titan Coach left ECB for whatever reason and took some players with him to start a team out of the Alpharetta area. FWIW |
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Alter-Ego
802 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2009 : 16:31:39
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6 I think what you may have heard is a name change for one of the teams. EC Combat has changed to EC Rawlings and is being coached by Jeff Guy. I have not heard of a new team being formed.
As for the practice times, each team has open amounts of time to hit in the batting cages at EC, and are scheduled with 2 weekday, and 1 weekend field time of 1:15 minutes each slot. EC uses one field at Mt. Bethel for a total of 9 fields. Most teams utilize the hour before, or the hour their field time (some do both) for hitting in the cages and/or throwing in the bullpen section.
The key is being efficient in your practice plan for your field time. Hitting on the field wastes time unless you are working on bunt/bunt defense or hit and run. Stretching and running can be done somewhere other than on the field as well. If teams do this, they will get accomplished what they need. |
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13udad1234
34 Posts |
Posted - 11/20/2009 : 21:16:47
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As I have learned and I hope that most of you have as well, fall rankings really don't mean anything because the teams shuffle up the rosters so much anyway. As I look at the rosters of some teams from the beginning of the fall to now, only about 50-70% of the kids that were thare at the beginning are on that team and a lot of teams added 3-6 other players to fill openings.
Good job Astros on the 14 man roster! |
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Alter-Ego
802 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2009 : 15:37:12
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Mammabee,
What do you think the Astros need to add to their roster? Some more pitching depth? Hitting? They may be a little thin there. :o)
btw, who are you guys playing with this year? |
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mikewells
45 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2010 : 09:14:58
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WOW momma you did good !!
So while your on a roll howbout tell us all who wins the NCAA basketball tournament !?
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Originally posted by mammabee
i feel the real answer on all this team gwinnett promotional talk will be answered in the triple crown when they play some established teams
then look next spring when everyone plays with the final roster and without foootballers gone and youll have your final answer
[quote]Originally posted by 13udad1234
[quote]Originally posted by cam1
Here is my stab at the 14u rankings....
1) Astro's NO CONTEST also the best 15u as well....
2) Team Gwinnett A- Could be in a class by themselves as well
3) Stallions- obv have alot of football kids because have'nt been around this fall
The next ones are a big SWAG with no paticular order.
Paulding County- If they are still around I have much respect for what they done over the years
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