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13udad1234
34 Posts |
Posted - 09/28/2009 : 20:22:20
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Alter-Ego
802 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2009 : 11:11:10
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I can't even begin to figure out the rankings even yet. The problem is, too many teams are still looking to solidify their rosters. Others have too many that are playing football to see what they might be like next spring.
The only thing I have been able to see is that there are some teams that should be a lot better when the season ends than when it starts. I see teams with kids who are athletic but not extensively coached up to now and if their current coaches do their jobs, they will be much better players at the end of the season. Time will only tell, though. In some cases it may take the patience of Job. |
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zwndad
170 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2009 : 18:34:59
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I had a 14u son last year, and I have another 14u son coming up this year. Here's what I found interesting last year. I'd be interested to see if it happens again this year.
Last year, all the age groups from 13U and below kept up with rankings on this site all the way through the ranking period (May? June? can't remember). For 14U, there were not enough votes to publish rankings for the last month or so. I think that at the end of 14U, most kids and their parents are more focused on high school than on 14U travel.
Don't get me wrong. Rankings can be helpful, especially to help you schedule and play against the better talent. However, at this age, I think that chasing trophies and points kind of loses its luster.
Just my observation from the past year. |
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Alter-Ego
802 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2009 : 10:54:34
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zwndad, I think that is related more to the particular wave of kids/parents and less about the age. Last year's 14U age group has always been more low key while last year's 13U group have been much more vocal and involved in open discussions. The 10U's seem to be following in the 13U's footsteps, while last year's 12U seem to act more like the 14's.
I think it is cyclical like age groups having more girls than boys, bigger vs smaller kids, athletes vs bookworms, etc. |
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playhard
16 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2009 : 12:38:36
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Everyone will see in the spring, but Team Gwinnett sping team will be much different than there fall team. They will have more pitching, faster and bigger hitters in the lined up. Astros are number #1 and the others will fall in line in the spring. |
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13udad1234
34 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2009 : 17:24:40
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I just went on USSSA and there were two teams called EC Zero and EC Monarch? Who are they and how many teams are really playing out of EC? |
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teddy41
421 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2009 : 19:00:47
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those teams will be filled by the kids who paid to be on teams but cant get in the games, sort of like football when the varsity has a game and you don't get in you play in the JV game |
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Alter-Ego
802 Posts |
Posted - 10/03/2009 : 11:40:06
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I saw that too, but have never heard of those two teams. The USSSA team was set up by the same coach. The coach also has set up a 16U team named EC Zero. |
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coachdan06
433 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2009 : 09:25:37
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Guys please get a grip here :
Here you are promoting around publicly ' who is going to be the best 8th grade baseball team ' and it isnt even Halloween yet !
Give your sons and there friends a fair opportunity be successful in there own right rather than make predictions and projections.
Think about it , how much of that did you want or appreciate when you were only 14 and what would it have taught you ?
This great sport is for the kids and not for the parents |
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AllStar
762 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2009 : 10:22:50
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quote: Originally posted by 13udad1234
I just went on USSSA and there were two teams called EC Zero and EC Monarch? Who are they and how many teams are really playing out of EC?
What age group and what season? I don't see it. |
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goyard
217 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2009 : 11:53:32
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Congrats to Team Gwinnett on the EC Classic win! Nice job guy's |
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AllStar
762 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2009 : 14:30:35
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quote: Originally posted by 6-4-3
Update - Team Gwinnett won the East Cobb Classic this weekend going 4-0 and beating the EC Braves twice, the EC Titans and the OTC Bearcats 11-3 in the championship (who beat the Titans in the semis).
I sure hope that the Titans or the Braves get better. They looked average, maybe 3rd tier Major, both going 2-2. I have to believe at this point that the Stallions or Combat would be the 2nd tier behind the Astros at East Cobb.
PlayHard - You may know this already but the Team Gwinnett fall team has consisted so far of all but 3 players on the spring Team Gwinnett Mizuno squad. Those 3 are going to play on another Team Gwinnett team that will also be major, and are playing very well. The fall team is extremely good, going 8-1 so far, with the only loss to a 15U team.
If the remaining players not playing the fall are as good as advertised, then yes, they will better than last year. My guess is maybe top 3 in the state. The Fall team is really good so things are looking up over in Buford right now.
How did the ECB Cobras do? |
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goyard
217 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2009 : 15:14:48
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AllStar - Who in the world is that? Just when you think you know 'em all |
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bballman
1432 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2009 : 16:29:10
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Who cares what the rankings are? Play good tournaments against good teams. Teach your kids to play the game right. Especially at 14, but really all the way up to HS, it is all about learning the fundamentals of the game and preparing to be a better player. Hopefully you will make the HS team. Even more hopefully, you will make Varsity at least by your Sr. year. I know everyone likes to win, but I think the ranking thing is more about the parents and coaches ego's than developing the kids. Will your son be ready for HS tryouts? Especially in the fall, that should be the only goal. Believe me, the HS coach won't care what your team ranking was before you come to him. He will only care about whether you can play or not. Get in shape now for HS tryouts. Make sure your arm is in shape because you will do a lot of throwing. |
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13udad1234
34 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2009 : 18:41:47
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quote: Originally posted by 6-4-3
Update - I sure hope that the Titans or the Braves get better. They looked average, maybe 3rd tier Major, both going 2-2. I have to believe at this point that the Stallions or Combat would be the 2nd tier behind the Astros at East Cobb.
Congrats to Team Gwinnett.
I know this is getting old, but the Titans will come around. They could've beaten Team Gwinnett in pool play had they made the plays. This comes not being together, (ECB fields have been closed) and the pitchers and cathers haven't really worked with each other extensively, |
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JDOG1010
7 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2009 : 21:24:55
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ECB Cobras won their first game against 6-4-3 and lost the next to against OTC and then the braves going 1-2 |
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wildcats9596
110 Posts |
Posted - 10/06/2009 : 09:14:08
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quote: Originally posted by goyard
AllStar - Who in the world is that? Just when you think you know 'em all
10th 14u team at ECB. |
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Alter-Ego
802 Posts |
Posted - 10/06/2009 : 10:40:44
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I was thinking the Cobras came over from SCRA. I believe they are registered as a AAA. Sounds like they got that first win out of the way and can move on to bigger goals. |
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mammabee
95 Posts |
Posted - 10/06/2009 : 12:19:54
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10-4 mr baseballman!
not whats important is ranking 8th graders in the fall
coaches do not care where you played or what team , sorry you fellas who own the baseball complexes but its the gospel truth Ive heard it first-hand !
they dont like hearing a resumea' either about a bunch of kids teams from parents , makes them feel like supposed to jump and take your son just because you say so and this doesnt work with coaches worth there salt
quote: Originally posted by bballman
I think the ranking thing is more about the parents and coaches ego's than developing the kids. Will your son be ready for HS tryouts? Especially in the fall, that should be the only goal. Believe me, the HS coach won't care what your team ranking was before you come to him. He will only care about whether you can play or not.
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loveforthegame25
448 Posts |
Posted - 10/06/2009 : 21:16:29
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643 did you watch the first Braves Team G game? |
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Leftypitcher
26 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2009 : 07:43:58
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What about the other ECB 14u teams? Any opinions on how they will shake out in the rankings within ECB? |
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mikewells
45 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2009 : 09:27:08
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quote: Originally posted by coachdan06
Guys please get a grip here :
Here you are promoting around publicly ' who is going to be the best 8th grade baseball team ' and it isnt even Halloween yet !
Give your sons and there friends a fair opportunity be successful in there own right rather than make predictions and projections.
Think about it , how much of that did you want or appreciate when you were only 14 and what would it have taught you ?
This great sport is for the kids and not for the parents
Youre right Dan its like daydreaming or something.
Eventually you gotta wake up and go back to work |
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ECB_Insider
54 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2009 : 10:53:10
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Lefty there is still a lot to be determined and may not shake out until mid-season next year.
What we know: *Astros - As many have stated, they will be what they will be. There is a good chance they will be the #2 15U team out of the park.
*Stallions - Until proven wrong, they will most likely be the #2 team in 14U out of the park. They had a solid team last year and have increased their pitching and hitting depth with some key acquisitions this off-season.
*Titans, Longhorns, Braves, and Combat - What will determine where they fall is what they get out of their pitching. The Titans have a lot of players to make decisions on and unfortunately they don't have a lot of players that "Stand out". The Braves and Combat have pitchers that can be impacting, but have shown in the past to not always stand up to the pressure. The Longhorns look to have good defense and hitting but have to get stability and depth out of their pitching staff as well. Only time will tell.
Chargers - They have hired some coaches for this season, and should be better. What level of talent they end up with may dictate that, though.
Warriors and Shamrocks - These teams lost some players to other teams. It is not expected they will have a better season than they had the last year or two.
Cobras - Being a new team to EC, they will have some learning curve. They are registered as a AAA team and will probably play pretty good at that level.
This is not really a ranking but just an assessment of what the picture looks like right now. Of course, these teams won't start playing good for 4-6 months and could significantly change if players hit growth spurts or injuries happen.
This time of year it is just speculation. |
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Alter-Ego
802 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2009 : 11:01:37
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"Eventually you gotta wake up and go back to work"
What kind of fun is that? |
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cam1
39 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2009 : 11:13:50
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Here is my stab at the 14u rankings....
1) Astro's NO CONTEST also the best 15u as well.... 2) Team Gwinnett A- Could be in a class by themselves as well 3) Stallions- obv have alot of football kids because have'nt been around this fall The next ones are a big SWAG with no paticular order. Combat Team Gwinnett B Paulding County- If they are still around I have much respect for what they done over the years Braves Forsyth Outlaws- are in their 1st tournament this weekend with team Gwinnett ECB Warriors Titans Baseball- if you have played them you know they can be very tough,but also unproven ECB Titans- Have a proven coach that knows his stuff could be a sleeper Chargers- have one of the best players in the state
All will shake out in the spring but this age group has alot of parody in it. I'm sure there will be lots of suprises but there is very few Elite teams anymore. |
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bomber
9 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2009 : 18:24:23
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How did the Braves, Titans, and OTC play/compare against Team Gwinnett? |
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